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08-01-2019, 13:18   #16
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The overriding rule at roundabouts is
Left lane: left turn and straight on.
Right lane: right turn only UNLESS the road straight ahead is a dual lane road. In this case you can use the right lane to go straight on.

There is NO legal way to be in the left hand lane and exit the roundabout on the right hand side.

Markings on the road override the standard rules.

For instance you cannot use the right lane to use an exit before 12 O'Clock unless there is a lane marking indicating otherwise. Except in the case where traffic conditions e.g. a queue of cars heading left at the first exit.

If for some reason the leftmost lane had a right arrow, then you would be allowed to use the left lane to turn right. Though in reality this would be a terrible design and should probably be fixed by the relevant authority.
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Markings on the road override the standard rules.

For instance you cannot use the right lane to use an exit before 12 O'Clock unless there is a lane marking indicating otherwise. Except in the case where traffic conditions e.g. a queue of cars heading left at the first exit.

If for some reason the leftmost lane had a right arrow, then you would be allowed to use the left lane to turn right. Though in reality this would be a terrible design and should probably be fixed by the relevant authority.
This "12 o'clock" stuff shouldn't be used as many straight ahead exits are at 1o'clock etc
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Markings on the road override the standard rules.

For instance you cannot use the right lane to use an exit before 12 O'Clock unless there is a lane marking indicating otherwise. Except in the case where traffic conditions e.g. a queue of cars heading left at the first exit.

If for some reason the leftmost lane had a right arrow, then you would be allowed to use the left lane to turn right. Though in reality this would be a terrible design and should probably be fixed by the relevant authority.
In reality there are very few, if any, of these and whoever designed something like this has questions to answer.
I don’t understand the first part of your post?
“You cannot use the right lane to use an exit before 12 o clock”
What’s that mean?
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Can we leave the clock face out of this please!
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You cannot go straight at the roundabout unless you are in the leftmost lane, or their is a straight arrow in the right lane.
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This "12 o'clock" stuff shouldn't be used as many straight ahead exits are at 1o'clock etc

It's the RSA who use the terminolgy. The whole point is that if straight is at 10 O'Clock Left Lane, if straight is at 2 O'Clock Right Lane.
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You cannot go straight at the roundabout unless you are in the leftmost lane, or their is a straight arrow in the right lane.
You can go straight in the right hand lane if the road straight ahead is a dual lane road.
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It's the RSA who use the terminolgy. The whole point is that if straight is at 10 O'Clock Left Lane, if straight is at 2 O'Clock Right Lane.
The RSA are clueless idiots when it comes to road usage and safety!
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You can go straight in the right hand lane if the road straight ahead is a dual lane road.

You can only do that if there is a straight arrow in the right hand lane.


http://www.rsa.ie/Documents/Road%20S...DL_2012_v3.pdf
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Not according to the RSA's ROTR (pg132):

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Going straight ahead (any exit between 6 o’clock and the 12 o’clock position)
Approach in the left-hand lane (unless road markings say otherwise) but do not indicate ‘left’ until you have passed the exit before the one you intend to take. Where traffic conditions dictate otherwise, for example a long line of traffic in the left lane signalling left or roadworks in the left lane, you may follow the course shown by the red line.

Taking any later exits (those from 12 o’clock to the 6 o’clock position)
Approach in the right-hand lane (unless road markings say otherwise), indicate ‘right’ on your approach and leave your indicator on until you have passed the exit before the one you intend to take. Then change to the ‘left’ turn indicator.
Move over towards the left on the roundabout and continue signalling left to leave.

Edit: your document says the same stuff!

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So we have differing views on going straight in the rhl, but can we agree that turning right in the lhl is punishable by death?
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https://www.google.com/maps/@53.2704.../data=!3m1!1e3

Have a look at the picture. Anyone in the left lane should only take the first exit. Drivers in the right hand lane can take the first or second exit.
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You can only continue onto the M50 if you are in the left lane.
However, that lane moves a lot faster so cars often turn right from it.

I use the roundabout most days and 75% of the time someone tries it. They dont get far with me though.

Contrary to what was posted above, I have *never* seen a cop near this and I have had some very close calls with both having to slam on.
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Contrary to what was posted above, I have *never* seen a cop near this and I have had some very close calls with both having to slam on.
If you look at that roundabout on Streetview, there is a motorcycle guard a short bit ahead of the Google car
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Have a look at the picture. Anyone in the left lane should only take the first exit. Drivers in the right hand lane can take the first or second exit.

Offically drivers in the right hand lane shouldn't take the first exit, they should only be taking the 2nd as the exit is before 12 O'Clock and there is not a road marking to indicate that straight is allowed.
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