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BBC Syrian reporter( hospital chemical attack scenes staged)

  • 21-02-2019 11:05pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭


    Riam Dalati is a well-known BBC Syria producer who has been reporting from the region for a long time. Now, he has stated that, after a six-month investigation, he has concluded that the scene in the Douma Hospital was staged. Dalati made his statements on his Twitter account which has over 20,000 followers including many mainstream journalists.

    “I can prove without a doubt that the Douma Hospital scene was staged,” he wrote. No fatalities occurred in the hospital.” He added that he had interviewed a number of White Helmets personnel and “opposition activists” during the course of his investigation.

    The “Douma Hospital scene” to which Dalati is referring is the footage showing children in a Douma hospital being hosed off and treated by doctors and White Helmets. The civilians were allegedly victims of a chemical attack. That narrative was subsequently taken apart by journalists like Pearson Sharp and Eva Bartlett who traveled to the scene of the alleged attack and interviewed alleged “victims” who contradicted the stories coming out of Western mainstream media. Western governments and corporate media, however, still clung to the “Assad gassed his own people” narrative.

    n tell you that Jaysh al-Islam ruled Douma with an iron fist. They coopted activists, doctors and humanitarians with fear and intimidation. In fac, one of the 3 or 4 people filming the scene was Dr. Abu Bakr Hanan, a “brute and shifty” doctor affiliated with Jaysh al-Islam. The narrative was that “there weren’t enough drs” but here is one filming and not taking part of the rescue efforts. Will keep the rest for later.

    https://www.activistpost.com/2019/02/bbc-producer-admits-douma-chemical-attack-staged-confirms-independent-media.html

    He leaves the door open there may be have been an attack, but the hospital scenes were faked.


Comments

  • Registered Users Posts: 1 trollhunter


    in before kingmob


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    It’s funny that a real conspiracy theory isn’t getting any traction.

    Conspiracies happen but they are simple. A false flag or a lie involving a few actors and promoted unknowningly in many cases by journalists.

    The whole wheels within wheels conspiracies for 9/11 are of course impossible to carry off.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,765 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Real conspiracies happen all the time, they are rarely on this forum

    The OPCW report on the Duoma attack came out a few days ago
    https://www.opcw.org/sites/default/files/documents/2019/03/s-1731-2019%28e%29.pdf


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,765 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Riam Dalati acknowledged the attacks happened, he was disputing that it wasn't Sarin (as was initially suspected)

    Appears he was right, it wasn't Sarin, it was Chlorine

    The Russian propaganda machine conveniently left that part out


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Real conspiracies happen all the time, they are rarely on this forum

    The OPCW report on the Duoma attack came out a few days ago
    https://www.opcw.org/sites/default/files/documents/2019/03/s-1731-2019%28e%29.pdf

    BBC reporter said the hospital scenes were staged. Where did the victims end up then? Finding chlorine in the area after the staging you surprised by this?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,765 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    A BBC producer made personal claims that the attack was staged. He also claimed in big bold letters on twitter that the attack was real, and that he was waiting for confirmation from the OPCW report. So a bit confusing

    The OPCW report says Chlorine was used

    There was an independent investigation by journalists and experts that also determined Chlorine was used


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    A BBC producer made personal claims that the attack was staged. He also claimed in big bold letters on twitter that the attack was real, and that he was waiting for confirmation from the OPCW report. So a bit confusing

    The OPCW report says Chlorine was used

    There was an independent investigation by journalists and experts that also determined Chlorine was used

    BBC producer Riam Dalati revealed on Twitter that he had proof, after a six-month investigation, those same hospital scenes had been staged. If there was a chlorine attack why would they need to stage the hospital scenes?

    Independent journalists have pretty much said the same thing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,765 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    BBC producer Riam Dalati revealed on Twitter that he had proof, after a six-month investigation, those same hospital scenes had been staged.

    Which was his personal opinion. He also revealed that he believed the attack was real on Twitter and that he was waiting for the outcome of the OPCW investigation

    Bit of a confusing stance to have


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Which was his personal opinion. He also revealed that he believed the attack was real on Twitter and that he was waiting for the outcome of the OPCW investigation

    Bit of a confusing stance to have

    Mainstream BBC reporter who has a history of posting Anti Assad comments on Twitter. It's revealing he believed the jihadists staged the event at the hospital. It, not a personal opinion when you do six months of investigation and talk to people on the ground ask them about it and they told him it was a staged event.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,765 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Mainstream BBC reporter who has a history of posting Anti Assad comments on Twitter. It's revealing he believed the jihadists staged the event at the hospital. It, not a personal opinion when you do six months of investigation and talk to people on the ground ask them about it and they told him it was a staged event.

    It's his personal opinion (not professional, which is why he had it on his personal twitter) he's a producer, and he also stated he believed the attacks were real


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    It's his personal opinion (not professional, which is why he had it on his personal twitter) he's a producer, and he also stated he believed the attacks were real

    His message on Twitter is clear. The gross hospital scenes were staged.

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    The hospital scenes are why America and other nations attacked Syria and economically sanctioned Russia and Syria.

    If the jihadists faked scenes in the hospital. I would not rule out they used chlorine gas in Douma. Nobody disputes the Syrian army was bombing the area to murder the Jihadists.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,765 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    His message on Twitter is clear. The gross hospital scenes were staged.

    and his twitter message is clear also, he believes the attacks are real and was waiting for results from the OPCW, which confirmed chemicals were used (Chlorine not Sarin)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    and his twitter message is clear also, he believes the attacks are real and was waiting for results from the OPCW, which confirmed chemicals were used (Chlorine not Sarin)

    You just going to ignore the hospital scene with all kids and families was staged for the TV?

    If there was a chlorine gas attack then you don't need to stage anything. What happened to the victims of the attack? I think he backtracked because of the heat he got on twitter.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,765 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    You just going to ignore the hospital scene with all kids and families was staged for the TV?

    Are you going to ignore his twitter message which claims he believes the attacks were real
    If there was a chlorine gas attack then you need to stage anything.

    Two investigations have shown strong evidence for a Chlorine attack in Duoma that day. Not exactly the first time theres been a chlorine attack in Syria

    Perhaps some rebels/etc exaggerated responses to the attacks, the two aren't mutally exclusive


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Are you going to ignore his twitter message which claims he believes the attacks were real



    Two investigations have shown strong evidence for a Chlorine attack in Duoma that day. Not exactly the first time theres been a chlorine attack in Syria

    Perhaps some rebels/etc exaggerated responses to the attacks, the two aren't mutally exclusive

    Do you still believe they are just rebels and freedom fighters? Isis and Al Qaeda groups are freedom fighters?

    They staged a scene a mock-up that was not real ( it can be considered a false flag ) the end result was France, UK and America jets bombed Syria and missiles were fired at Syria targets

    There no evidence there was a real chlorine gas attack. I just think when they are staging scenes for a dramatic event then it's possible the attack never happened. They could spray chlorine in the area and OPCW could not tell if it was a real attack or not later.


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,592 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    I just think when they are staging scenes for a dramatic event then it's possible the attack never happened. They could spray chlorine in the area and OPCW could not tell if it was a real attack or not later.

    Why go to the trouble, just have the lizard illuminati radio their alien buddies to borrow their hologram technology and use digital alien trickery to spoof the whole thing. No paper trail to the government buying the chlorine! #genius


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,765 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Do you still believe they are just rebels and freedom fighters? Isis and Al Qaeda groups are freedom fighters?

    Last count (at it's peak) there were over a thousand different factions in Syria. Every shade possible.
    There no evidence there was a real chlorine gas attack.

    A NY times investigation located two of the chlorine canisters used (dropped from aircraft, have been used in the conflict before)
    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/06/25/world/middleeast/syria-chemical-attack-douma.html

    The OPCW report (which Mr Dalati was waiting for) tested positive for reactive chlorine at the site

    https://www.opcw.org/media-centre/news/2019/03/opcw-issues-fact-finding-mission-report-chemical-weapons-use-allegation
    https://www.opcw.org/sites/default/files/documents/2019/03/s-1731-2019%28e%29.pdf


  • Registered Users Posts: 213 ✭✭Annd9


    Overheal wrote: »
    Why go to the trouble, just have the lizard illuminati radio their alien buddies to borrow their hologram technology and use digital alien trickery to spoof the whole thing. No paper trail to the government buying the chlorine! #genius

    Aren't you supposed to be a mod ? For once cheerful has given us a reasonable alternative theory that has been backed up by a well known and respected journalist .
    Whether the attack happened or not , That footage was crucial to military action and anybody denying this is being very disingenuous .


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,765 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Annd9 wrote: »
    Aren't you supposed to be a mod ? For once cheerful has given us a reasonable alternative theory that has been backed up by a well known and respected journalist .

    Not a journalist, a producer. This producer was expressing their personal (not professional) opinion on a private Twitter account, this producer also specified on their private Twitter account that the attacks were real and that they were awaiting the results of the OPCW investigation. The OPCW investigation found evidence of chlorine use

    Another group of journalists and experts also found direct evidence of chlorine use (links have been provided)


  • Registered Users Posts: 213 ✭✭Annd9


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Not a journalist, a producer. This producer was expressing their personal (not professional) opinion on a private Twitter account, this producer also specified on their private Twitter account that the attacks were real and that they were awaiting the results of the OPCW investigation. The OPCW investigation found evidence of chlorine use

    Another group of journalists and experts also found direct evidence of chlorine use (links have been provided)

    Yes I totally understand all of that , however this topic is about the footage from the hospital .


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  • Registered Users Posts: 81,592 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Annd9 wrote: »
    Yes I totally understand all of that , however this topic is about the footage from the hospital .

    Its about the attack being staged, too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    Annd9 wrote: »
    Yes I totally understand all of that , however this topic is about the footage from the hospital .

    Thanks, Annd. They prefer to skip past this part. The BBC Reporter clearly said the hospital chemical attack scenes were staged and never happened.


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