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Munster Team Talk Thread - Snymans are(n't) Forever

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    #5942
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Billy Holland did the presser so it looks like he'll be starting.


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    #5943
    bayern
    Registered Users Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭bayern


    thomond2006 wrote: »
    Yup, he's playing for a contract.

    So is Patterson.


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    #5944
    ionadnapokot
    Registered Users Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭ionadnapokot


    Carbery back doing a bit in training.

    https://www.munsterrugby.ie/2021/01/26/player-update-9/#post


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    #5945
    thomond2006
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    That's great news. It would be fantastic to get him back at some stage over the Six Nations.


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    #5946
    theVersatile
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    Very nice to hear he's making progress. If he was able to reach full fitness before next pre-season that would be huge.


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    #5947
    theVersatile
    Registered Users Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭theVersatile


    Connor Phillips also with the seniors:
    https://inpho.ie/cache/inpho/ea/8b/33/70fb4d50f1531edd3daeaeb01951526c0479ffc99b/INPHO_01775952.jpg


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    #5948
    Stan27
    Registered Users Posts: 529 ✭✭✭Stan27


    ionadnapokot wrote: »
    Carbery back doing a bit in training.

    https://www.munsterrugby.ie/2021/01/26/player-update-9/#post

    If he comes back, there will be a lot of 10,s in munster !!


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    #5949
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Stan27 wrote: »
    If he comes back, there will be a lot of 10,s in munster !!

    If Carbery can prove his fitness I think there's a good chance JJ or Scannell (who had acted as 10 cover prior to Covid) will be fighting for the one contract.


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    #5950
    Lost Ormond
    Registered Users Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Stan27 wrote: »
    If he comes back, there will be a lot of 10,s in munster!!
    There wont. If he does at least one of the senior guys JJ etc will probably be let go and then of academy options Flannery for example could end up playing more full back.


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    #5951
    The Inbetween is mine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭The Inbetween is mine


    JJ Hanrahan will be going absolutely nowhere.
    A solid pro who is always fit, has massive 88%+ kicking success and can pull out huge games like Clermont.
    Yes..he can miss kicks that are remembered forever in some quarters... but, he's the man in possession of the jersey..and it could be a long, long road back for Joey...if her ever gets back to full fitness.
    As it stands..we have JJ & BH... anything else is a bonus


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    #5952
    Eod100
    Registered Users Posts: 11,638 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Very sad news about Cara O'Sullivan. May she rest in peace. https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-40214804.html?type=amp


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    #5953
    bennyl10
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    The Inbetween is mine wrote: »
    JJ Hanrahan will be going absolutely nowhere.
    A solid pro who is always fit, has massive 88%+ kicking success and can pull out huge games like Clermont.
    Yes..he can miss kicks that are remembered forever in some quarters... but, he's the man in possession of the jersey..and it could be a long, long road back for Joey...if her ever gets back to full fitness.
    As it stands..we have JJ & BH... anything else is a bonus


    Reports this morning on OTB that JJ is looking to France

    Wouldn’t shock me at all if he leaves, there’s been a lot of clutch kicks that he’s left behind him.

    And Joey back training will immediately slot into the starting role.


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    #5954
    The Inbetween is mine
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    bennyl10 wrote: »
    Reports this morning on OTB that JJ is looking to France

    Wouldn’t shock me at all if he leaves, there’s been a lot of clutch kicks that he’s left behind him.

    And Joey back training will immediately slot into the starting role.

    Like all Munster fans, I hope we see Joey back to his very best before the season's end.... but looking at his injury profile, I can't hand on heart say that this is going to be a happy ending for all concerned.
    JJ plays 10,12 & 15 ... letting him go would be foolhardy in the extreme


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    #5955
    Pepp1989
    Registered Users Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭Pepp1989


    While trying to be supportive of our players, I am beyond frustrated at JJ failing at the big moments. I was in Thomond for the missed drop goal v Racing. I think I gave up on him that day.

    Sadly he has reinforced this by missing big kicks and failing in the big moments. Grand for games in pro14 bar the big provincial games or finals.

    When he was picked v Leinster you just knew we would be talking about him.


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    #5956
    thomond2006
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    If Carbery can prove his fitness, then next season you could have:

    Carbery
    Healy
    Flannery year 3
    Crowley year 2

    The next few weeks will be big for Crowley and Flannery as they are likely to get a run of games, though perhaps not at 10.


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    #5957
    Tomtom364
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    4 weeks out from the next round of the league (excluding this week's game obviously).

    I could see Joey being on the bench against Edinburgh or Cardiff


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    #5958
    Must love hardship
    Registered Users Posts: 1,146 ✭✭✭Must love hardship


    With Ulster announcing contracts is there any updates coming out of munster?

    With Zebo's contract with Racing Up in June and the fact they have signed Boffelli what are the chances of him coming back to Munster?


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    #5959
    thomond2006
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    Must love hardship wrote: »
    With Ulster announcing contracts is there any updates coming out of munster?

    With Zebo's contract with Racing Up in June and the fact they have signed Boffelli what are the chances of him coming back to Munster?

    Very little chance I'd say. I imagine if he leaves Racing he'll get another contract in France.


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    #5960
    schmoo2k
    Registered Users Posts: 1,379 ✭✭✭schmoo2k


    Must love hardship wrote: »
    With Zebo's contract with Racing Up in June and the fact they have signed Boffelli what are the chances of him coming back to Munster?

    Ultimately that would come down to Andy Farrell wanting him for the national squad or not (from an IRFU and money point of view)?


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    #5961
    Clareman
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 23,923 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Ethan Coughlan signing for Munster is some of the best news I've heard in a very long time and I admit it has cheered me up no end. Normally I might catch youtube highlights of Munster v Treviso on a Saturday evening at 5 but this Saturday I'm going to be togged out in my Ennis gear shouting at the screen.


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    #5962
    Quin_Dub
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    Clareman wrote: »
    Ethan Coughlan signing for Munster is some of the best news I've heard in a very long time and I admit it has cheered me up no end. Normally I might catch youtube highlights of Munster v Treviso on a Saturday evening at 5 but this Saturday I'm going to be togged out in my Ennis gear shouting at the screen.

    Has he actually been given an Academy Contract yet?


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    #5963
    Amari Full Terminology
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    I couldn't imagine Zebo returning to Munster if I'm totally honest.

    With finances the way they are and the fact we have Haley, Daly, Gallagher, Conway, Sweetnam, Hanrahan and Flannery who all play or are able to play Full Back and Daly, Gallagher, Conway, Sweetnam, Nash, Coombes, Earls who play or can play on the wing, it just doesn't make sense when you consider the money Zebo would want would probably cover the money being paid to 3 or 4 of the above.


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    #5964
    aloooof
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,221 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    That's my thinking as well. Whatever chance there was of him returning to Munster, Covid has put paid to that, I'd imagine. We'll just have to hope we meet whoever he's with in Europe again, and he can play the pantomime villain in Thomond like in the Racing match. Which was a laugh.


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    #5965
    Lost Ormond
    Registered Users Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Clareman wrote: »
    Ethan Coughlan signing for Munster is some of the best news I've heard in a very long time and I admit it has cheered me up no end. Normally I might catch youtube highlights of Munster v Treviso on a Saturday evening at 5 but this Saturday I'm going to be togged out in my Ennis gear shouting at the screen.
    Ennis have always had quite strong underage sides. Hopefully this could be push for club to help keep these players and get a 20s side going and get the adult side of the club going again when rugby is back next season.
    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Has he actually been given an Academy Contract yet?
    Nothing confirmed but imagine if he will have some form of contract either academy/1 year development if he does well over next few weeks


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    #5966
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 14,991 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Festive Life wrote: »
    Ennis have always had quite strong underage sides. Hopefully this could be push for club to help keep these players and get a 20s side going and get the adult side of the club going again when rugby is back next season.


    Nothing confirmed but imagine if he will have some form of contract either academy/1 year development if he does well over next few weeks

    There was a 20's side this season in Ennis , 1st time in a very long time. Only got 3 Games played before lock-down put paid to the season sadly.

    Made up of the core of the team that Ethan played on all the way through Underage.

    Conor Moloney (who featured for Munster in the recent 7's series) and Tony Butler were the other Underage Internationals on that same team.

    Fantastic news for Ethan and hopefully Conor and Tony will follow him.


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    #5967
    Eod100
    Registered Users Posts: 11,638 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Must love hardship wrote: »
    With Ulster announcing contracts is there any updates coming out of munster?

    With Zebo's contract with Racing Up in June and the fact they have signed Boffelli what are the chances of him coming back to Munster?

    Nothing official yet. Gerry Thornley saying they're still in negotiations. Might get some confirmed ones before the next round of pro14 potentially.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/contract-future-still-unclear-for-many-of-ireland-s-rugby-pros-1.4468619


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    #5968
    yerrahbah
    Registered Users Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭yerrahbah


    12 matches played this season

    Munster have used 49 players (likely to hit 50 this weekend with one of the new SHs making an appearance)

    With G.Coombes, JO’D, and Casey appearing in all but 1 game

    In terms of minutes played

    DDA is top with 746, Haley with 720, G.Coombes has 643, JO’D has 596 and Casey with 527


    We have 20 different try scorers, nine forwards, 10 backs and Mr PT

    With Coombes getting seven and KO’B getting four


    Nine yellow cards and one red card

    With Holland and PO’M picking up 2 yellow cards each

    Player Mins after 12 games
    De Allende 746
    Haley 720
    G.Coombes 643
    JOD 596
    Casey 527
    R.Scannell 514
    JJH 509
    Kleyn 498
    Archer 482
    Beirne 480
    J.Cronin 475
    F.Wycherley 469
    Stander 464
    Healy 462
    Holland 441
    KO'B 412
    Nash 400
    Farrell 400
    Marshall 379
    Sweetnam 369
    POM 365
    Gallagher 331
    Ryan 329
    Earls 320
    S.Daly 301
    Murray 291
    J.Wycherley 274
    Goggin 243
    Conway 234
    Hodnett 194
    TOD 183
    O'Sullivan 178
    Cloete 142
    McCarthy 135
    Knox 117
    Ahern 111
    N.Scannell 110
    Loughman 82
    L.Coombes 80
    O'Connor 74
    French 60
    Barron 59
    Kilcoyne 55
    McHenry 50
    Salanoa 32
    J.Daly 23
    Crowley 13
    Flannery 8
    N.Cronin 7


    Players yet to feature:
    Carbery, Snyman


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    #5969
    Lost Ormond
    Registered Users Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    There was a 20's side this season in Ennis , 1st time in a very long time. Only got 3 Games played before lock-down put paid to the season sadly.

    Made up of the core of the team that Ethan played on all the way through Underage.

    Conor Moloney (who featured for Munster in the recent 7's series) and Tony Butler were the other Underage Internationals on that same team.

    Fantastic news for Ethan and hopefully Conor and Tony will follow him.

    Needs to be better structure for 20s as even with likes of Ethan and his team which was seriously good at youths grades they mightnt always be able to compete with the city clubs at 20s
    They played in the city pre season league. Werent in the donal walsh, just like Nenagh, Clonmel. Munster need to do far more than just have 1 division at 20s


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    #5970
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 14,991 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Festive Life wrote: »
    Needs to be better structure for 20s as even with likes of Ethan and his team which was seriously good at youths grades they mightnt always be able to compete with the city clubs at 20s
    They played in the city pre season league. Werent in the donal walsh, just like Nenagh, Clonmel. Munster need to do far more than just have 1 division at 20s

    For another thread , but agree on all counts above.

    Far more needs to be done in Munster to support underage club rugby and help the clubs hold on to players moving into Adult rugby.

    Munster trying to rely on a half-dozen schools to be the feeders to the Pro-Game just isn't going to cut it.

    Really drive the quality of Youth Rugby and get more players like John Hodnett and Ethan etc.


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    #5971
    Lost Ormond
    Registered Users Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    For another thread , but agree on all counts above.

    Far more needs to be done in Munster to support underage club rugby and help the clubs hold on to players moving into Adult rugby.

    Munster trying to rely on a half-dozen schools to be the feeders to the Pro-Game just isn't going to cut it.

    Really drive the quality of Youth Rugby and get more players like John Hodnett and Ethan etc.
    Munster arent relying as much on those schools as they were and are at least highlighting the roles club played in those players age grade careers.

    They have the competition structures pretty spot on but need to help drive coaching standards within some more of these clubs. Clubs need to do promo better and Munster assist them in covering the clubs 16s/18s competitions more.


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