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11-01-2019, 11:00   #16
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urm....
I know it's not going to last but at the moment it's free trade of goods.
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Some Paddy that just wants the reg plate and nothing else.
Some paddy that all they want is something to get them from a to b! The rise of plain paddy spec dacia's exactly the way it is and has always been
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I can't believe it, but if the government actually act on this we'll be stuck with paddy spec!
Didn't know Nissan manufactured cars here? Maybe we should bn all brnd new imports from the UK too, just to be safe.
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Can we just ban the import of Nissans ?
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Actually, the consumer decides.

You buy a car with the spec you like. If the importers aren't providing cars people want, they won't sell. Plenty of people now want nicely spec'd cars and importers are spec'ing cars to levels that will compete and sell. Sure there'll always be some basic models about but that's the same anywhere, it's not exclusive to Ireland.

i know one swallow doesn't make a summer, but I was in an Enterprise rental Corolla the other day and it had climate control and adaptive cruise FFS.
Afraid not, consumer decides based of a predefined list that the distributor cleared.

to pretend the consumer has full control as they do in other counties is disingenuous. The irish market has always and is always designed by the Distributor. Consumer no, because they know no different.
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11-01-2019, 11:41   #21
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Afraid not, consumer decides based of a predefined list that the distributor cleared.

to pretend the consumer has full control as they do in other counties is disingenuous. The irish market has always and is always designed by the Distributor. Consumer no, because they know no different.
Yeah, of course, but the consumer decides what they buy, ultimately. Whether it be high/ low spec, Irish/ UK etc. If all Irish importers are supplying (allegedly) is low rent stuff and there is a mass migration to the UK second hand market for higher spec stuff, do you not think, even over the course of a few decades that importers will spot this and react to it? This whole "Paddy spec" mentality has gotten way out of hand, it's not much more than a cliche now.

This is the very reason Nissan are panicking and coming our with embarrassing stuff like this, because their cars are horrible yokes and nobody is buying them and they are clutching at the idea of ring fencing Irish buyers into them.

You don't see any serious players like Ford, Toyota, VW coming out with this nonsense, because their product is good (or at least better than Nissan) so they are selling, naturally, because they are better looking/ spec'd/ engines and people want them.
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I can't believe it, but if the government actually act on this we'll be stuck with paddy spec!
He's a twit - and not for the first time. What he's really pissed at is the 2,877 Qashqai's that came in from the UK that he didn't get a slice of. If he had his head on the right way around, he'd be out there bringing those in and putting them through his dealerships.......

And I'm not buying his 'green concern', either: cars already built, are already built. You can't un-build them, and there are no factories out there building 2nd hand cars.............

And quite apart from the fact it would be illegal to ban imports, for a variety of reasons, irrespective of costs, the Nissan Leaf isn't the panacea to all our ills. If he's so concerned, let him get Nissan to put a few billion into a charging network that actually works, and then come back to us.

But I'd still buy a GT-R first.
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So Nissan want to ban the import of all pre-2014 cars from the UK ( and presumably other Countries too? I'm quite sure that this latest from Nissan is in the best interest's of the planet, and nothing to do with their sale's figures? And of course the Governments coffers?
"the tax take from a used car import is €6,000 less than from a new car sale." And why is that, I wonder??? Time was when ALL car import taxes were to be eliminated between member states....OH, I forgot...it WAS eliminated...but replaced by the VRT.
For sure, if I can save €6'000 just in tax ( not to mention dealer mark up ) by buying a 2nd hand ( either 6 mth or 1 year old ) car from England...then it's no contest. I pay enough car related taxes as it is, and I'm not a new plate chaser, so nearly new is fine by me ( or even not so new either)...we don't know yet how brexit will eventually play out, but even if tariffs come into play, they will be % related I would imagine, so it's quite possible that there will be a major price drop in UK car prices ???? If this happens, that is, then used car imports will increase ( unless of course Nissan has it's way.... )
Smacks of desperation when a company seems to be jumping on the emission band wagon and import tax in order to sell their cars.
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He's a twit - and not for the first time. What he's really pissed at is the 2,877 Qashqai's that came in from the UK that he didn't get a slice of. If he had his head on the right way around, he'd be out there bringing those in and putting them through his dealerships.......
The thing that he's forgetting, that you rightly point out is that most or at least a decent portion of of those Qashqai's did go through his dealer notwork. The importer didn't get a cut out of them but it might have kept the dealer networks head above water.

There was 100k used vehicle imports, but not 100k imports of single vehicles by private individuals. A big portion of that 100k is dealers (franchise and indy) buying in full forecourts of ex UK stock. Whats sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander and all that.
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No difference than publicans seeking the ban of supermarket cheap alcohol.

They've skin in the game and its hitting their pockets that's their only concern on this issue.
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I can't believe it, but if the government actually act on this we'll be stuck with paddy spec!
Is Nissan now "Advising" the Govt. on what to do?????? Maybe ban on Nissan's is the answer????
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Could Ireland ban importing cars despite the EU free trade movement ? Buying a Nissan would never cross my mind tbh.
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11-01-2019, 12:44   #28
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I got a Nissan Joke as a rental from Hertz in Dublin Airport a few months ago, thought the car was around 5 years old as it had a radio and that was it.

it was 2 months old and had 1500 km on the clock

Every rental car in Germany comes fully loaded as they want a good resale value on it, who the F would buy that thing
With car rentals, you get what you selected..and for the base price, you get a base car, even sat nav cost's extra. If you want a car with all the bell's and whistles, expect to pay premium prices. You can be lucky though, and get a reasonably specced car, but that's the luck of the draw on what's available when you pick up your car.
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Could Ireland ban importing cars despite the EU free trade movement ? Buying a Nissan would never cross my mind tbh.
If the vehicle you're importing is actually EU compliant, then I don't believe they could. Even a UK Nissan is EU compliant........and always will be.

No more than people import stuff from US / Japan all the time, there'll be tarriffs, and that might put people off and slow it down.......but it's not a ban.
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Yes Toyotafanboi, you are right. I was in a VAG dealership the other day as a car transporter was unloading, all the unloaded cars were UK imports, and they joined the many others already on the site. So I presume that other dealerships are doing the same thing too in order to survive.
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