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11-01-2019, 09:12   #1
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Aren't Nissan Ireland a great bunch of lads?

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Nissan Ireland, not for the first time, has called on the Government to ban the importing of second hand cars from the UK.
I can't believe it, but if the government actually act on this we'll be stuck with paddy spec!
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11-01-2019, 09:29   #2
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I don't know. Every day of the week on here there is someone harping "Ireland is the dumping ground for the ageing diesels the UK doesn't want", that "the UK is ahead of the emissions game and fobbing off it's tired diesels on poor old Paddy".

Now someone wants to ban it and that's not good either?

If we're going to go so deep with the self wallowing, lets at least try to keep a consistent theme.

To be fair, I said it in another thread a few weeks back but the days of "Paddy spec" ended 10-15 years ago. Virtually everybody wants technology and creature comforts in cars now.

To me, this is only Nissan panicking because their product line up is ****e. If they didn't have the Qashqai, they'd have folded here a long time ago IMO. I know the Leaf does ok for itself but it isn't enough to carry the brand. The Pulsar, Micra, Juke and whatever else they sell are mostly rubbish, when added to the reputation for poor quality that there 2000's onwards stuff has, why would anyone buy one? The whole BOGOF thing they are doing now really screams of desperation too.
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11-01-2019, 09:34   #3
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I don't know. Every day of the week on here there is someone harping "Ireland is the dumping ground for the ageing diesels the UK doesn't want", that "the UK is ahead of the emissions game and fobbing off it's tired diesels on poor old Paddy".

Now someone wants to ban it and that's not good either?

If we're going to go so deep with the self wallowing, lets at least try to keep a consistent theme.

To be fair, I said it in another thread a few weeks back but the days of "Paddy spec" ended 10-15 years ago.
Virtually everybody wants technology and creature comforts in cars now.

To me, this is only Nissan panicking because their product line up is ****e. If they didn't have the Qashqai, they'd have folded here a long time ago IMO. I know the Leaf does ok for itself but it isn't enough to carry the brand. The Pulsar, Micra, Juke and whatever else they sell are mostly rubbish, when added to the reputation for poor quality that there 2000's onwards stuff has, why would anyone buy one? The whole BOGOF thing they are doing now really screams of desperation too.


That is not true at all. Distributors in this country decide what the spec is and best bang for their personal buck. That is the same today as it ever was.
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The post-brexit VAT & Tariffs will be the effective banning they desire anyway (if it goes that way)
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If they restrict or ban imports from the UK, people will just import more from Japan - and that probably would be better for the local environment as diesels have a minuscule market share over there. Not everyone wants to or can afford to buy a new car.

Nissan's a bit of a mess in general right now. I don't know any other car manufacturers who's CEO is in jail...
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11-01-2019, 09:43   #6
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That is not true at all. Distributors in this country decide what the spec is and best bang for their personal buck. That is the same today as it ever was.
Actually, the consumer decides.

You buy a car with the spec you like. If the importers aren't providing cars people want, they won't sell. Plenty of people now want nicely spec'd cars and importers are spec'ing cars to levels that will compete and sell. Sure there'll always be some basic models about but that's the same anywhere, it's not exclusive to Ireland.

i know one swallow doesn't make a summer, but I was in an Enterprise rental Corolla the other day and it had climate control and adaptive cruise FFS.
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Nissan's a bit of a mess in general right now. I don't know any other car manufacturers who's CEO is in jail...
Martin Winterkorn is looking pretty smug right now
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I got a Nissan Joke as a rental from Hertz in Dublin Airport a few months ago, thought the car was around 5 years old as it had a radio and that was it.

it was 2 months old and had 1500 km on the clock

Every rental car in Germany comes fully loaded as they want a good resale value on it, who the F would buy that thing
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I got a Nissan Joke as a rental from Hertz in Dublin Airport a few months ago, thought the car was around 5 years old as it had a radio and that was it.

it was 2 months old and had 1500 km on the clock

Every rental car in Germany comes fully loaded as they want a good resale value on it, who the F would buy that thing
Some Paddy that just wants the reg plate and nothing else.
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I can't believe it, but if the government actually act on this we'll be stuck with paddy spec!
Pre or post Brexit UK?
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I got a Nissan Joke as a rental from Hertz in Dublin Airport a few months ago, thought the car was around 5 years old as it had a radio and that was it.

it was 2 months old and had 1500 km on the clock

Every rental car in Germany comes fully loaded as they want a good resale value on it, who the F would buy that thing
not sure that that has much to do with the OP. However rental cars in Ireland as probably near worthless at resale time given how many of them end up clattering about the Wild Atlantic Way.

It's not really relevant at that stage what the entertainment system is
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Now someone wants to ban it and that's not good either?
Well no, we can't all afford new cars.
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That's frankly nonsense. UK is still part of the EU and free travel of goods applies. They actually don't realise how lucky they are Ireland has right hand drive cars or they would be competing with imports from Netherlands, Germany or Italy.

Anyway they might try to make less ugly cars for a start.
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This just shows how utterly desperate and ignorant Nissan are. If they were to ban cars being imported from the uk they’d have to ban them from everywhere else too. You just can’t pick a country and ban products/cars from that country regardless of whether it’s an EU country or not, nissans ignorance is astounding in that regard.

Nissan are a failing company, any major car manufacturer that decides to eliminate all saloons from their line up doesn’t deserve to survive. I used to like Nissans but I wouldn’t touch one now (with the exception of the GTR of course)
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That's frankly nonsense. UK is still part of the EU and free travel of goods applies. They actually don't realise how lucky they are Ireland has right hand drive cars or they would be competing with imports from Netherlands, Germany or Italy.

Anyway they might try to make less ugly cars for a start.
urm....
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