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13-12-2019, 00:40   #1
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What's wrong with this?

From an article in the Irish Times tonight about a petition to Joe McHugh Minister for Education: "“In second-level some are still learning ‘Dia duit, conas atá tú and cad is ainm duit,’” said de Spáinn." Are these phrases not used in real life anymore?

http://Minister receives petition ov...licy-1.4113755
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13-12-2019, 08:32   #2
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The article wouldn't open for me so I can't get the full context of the quote, but I don't believe Julian de Spáinn was saying that people shouldn't use those phrases.

I think the problem is that people are still struggling to learn those phrases in Secondary School when they should have mastered them in Junior Infants.
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Here's a better link.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/educ...13755?mode=amp

Ya those comments are not about the phrases themselves but about the lack of progression ... when some learners are hearing the same stuff years later.
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17-12-2019, 01:25   #4
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Thanks, that makes sense. I suppose I jumped to conclusions as it's quite a while since I actually spoke any Irish. I had a far better grounding in Irish in primary school them my children had. I think it's down to the proliferation of active learning methods and extra subject matter. Also I think there's a much greater acceptance of low attainment. Mind you, they enjoyed their schooling more than I did mine!
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