RCPI puzzle

pinkypinky · 13-05-2016 2:34pm #1

http://rcsiheritage.blogspot.ie/

Great little puzzle here for us to play with...

There's a George and Lucy Duncan on 9 Pembroke St Upper in 1937-38 up to 1943.

No Lucy Duncan deaths post 1943 but there is a Catherine Duncan in South Dublin aged 70 in 1944 - very similar age.

Possible James Joseph Duncan death in 1918 in Dublin South - no age given in the index.

L1011 · 13-05-2016 2:41pm

(off topic, but due to a mention in the linked article) Ooh, I didn't know the damage compensation requests were up. My family's pub on Parnell Street was liable to have been damaged and lo and behold it was.

shanew · 13-05-2016 4:54pm

I had a go at this earlier - nothing promising so far except for that George and Lucy in the Electoral Registers, haven't given up yet...

KildareFan · 13-05-2016 6:20pm

Name: Lucy Duncan
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1942
Death Age: 80
Registration district: Dublin South
Volume: 2
Page: 343
FHL Film Number: 101742

KildareFan · 13-05-2016 6:31pm

George was Lucy's son:

House 123.1 Stephens Green, Dublin http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Mansion_House/St__Stephen_s_Green__West/74915/

Duncan, James 59 Male Head of Family Church of Ireland Co Tyrone Bedel and Caretaker Read and write - Married - 25yrs, 1 child 1 living
Duncan Lucy Catherine 39 Female Wife Church of Ireland Kings Co - Read and write -
Duncan George Henry Alexander 8 Male Son Church of Ireland City of Dublin Scholar Read and write

shanew · 13-05-2016 6:34pm

James and 'Lusy' at the same address in 1901

spurious · 13-05-2016 8:26pm

There's a George H Duncan marrying an Yvonne O. Acheson in Edenderry, 1953.
First name(s) George H
Last name Duncan
Registration year 1953
Registered Quarter/Year Jul - Sep 1953
Registration district Edenderry
Volume 3
Page 297

spurious · 13-05-2016 9:27pm

Striking differences in the signatures on the 1901 and 1911 census forms and the application form for compensation. It must have been a terrible experience for him.

pinkypinky · 13-05-2016 10:02pm

The account is very heartfelt - despite the distance of time, I'm moved by it. And I really hope he didn't die a scant 2 years later like the indexes suggest.

shanew · 13-05-2016 10:58pm

The 1918 death in Dublin seems to be a different James Duncan - probate shows him as a retired surveyor of Customs, and his wife Georgina. Details match this couple on the 1911 census

shanew · 14-05-2016 9:30am

in case anyone else is following up on this - some of the other leads investigated

A George Alexander Duncan appears as an economist in Trinity, the year of birth same as our George 1902, but place of birth Ballymena, and there is a good birth index and 1911 census matches for him.

The address for James and family mentioned on the property loss claim in 1917 is shown as tenements in Directories at that time, so nothing there either..

I stumbled across a very garbled tree which includes a link to the Duncans on the 1911 census, and claims to show a link to a US family in the mid-west, but it makes no sense regarding timeline or places of birth etc.

shanew · 15-05-2016 5:41pm

following up on that probable match on the electoral lists..

9 Pembroke St. Upr.

1937-38 Lucy
1940-41 George & Lucy
1941-42 George & Lucy
1942-43 George & Lucy

no sign of Lucy after that or this George - but at least two other George Duncans at Raheny & Rathfarnham, which overlap with George at Pembroke St.

About 12 different surnames listed among the voters for No. 9 which is a large house near the Leeson St. junction, and principle householder listed in directories at this time as Sydney H. Bowtell/Boutell, who is shown as one of the voters... could the other names be lodgers or staff ?

KildareFan · 15-05-2016 5:45pm

Lucy Duncan died in 1942 aged 80 which explains why she's no longer listed in Pembroke street.

shanew · 15-05-2016 5:51pm

maybe George might appear as the son & informant on the cert which would confirm this, along with address .. at least Lucy Duncan seems an uncommon name. I had checked for possible probate entry and possible death notice to go with that death but no sign of a match

Hermy · 15-05-2016 11:36pm

The marriage of James and Lucy Catherine of Patrickswell took place in Kilpeacon parish, Co. Limerick according to the transcript at Roots which also gives James occupation as R.I.C. if that may help.

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