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Man shoots dead neighbour in Co. Mayo

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  • 18-09-2019 11:28am
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    Kurtyoo
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    A man in his 80s has been arrested after another man, aged in his 60s, was shot dead in Co Mayo last night.
    The shooting happened at Aghamore, Ballyhaunis, just before midnight.
    The victim was pronounced dead at the scene.
    The arrested man is being held at Castlebar Garda Station.
    It is understood that shots were discharged after the elderly man heard activity outside his property.
    Initial inquiries suggest he went outside and discharged a number of warning shots, which had fatal consequences.


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    LuasSimon
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    It shows the fear people are living under in Rural Ireland with all the robberies and burglaries, any noise at night time is met with fear ..

    No garda Stations and roaming traveller gangs have Rural Ireland under siege not that Fine Gael Dublin care.


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    Xenji
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    It looks to be a tragic accident, unfortunately a lot of elderly farmers have to live with the fear of something happening to them or their property and can be quite isolated and vulnerable, I have heard plenty of disturbing stories over the years in Mayo from cousins who are farmers and friends of theirs, but it happens in every county.


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    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users Posts: 4,704 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    If that is reason, that he thought it was an intruder, its awful sad. Poor man.


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    jimgoose
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    Well in fairness, firing at a car like that just because he saw headlights snooping around the road is the act of a lunatic.


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    Tasfasdf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 660 ✭✭✭Tasfasdf


    jam_mac_jam wrote: »
    If that is reason, that he thought it was an intruder, its awful sad. Poor man.

    Ah ya accidents happen grand so


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    Stationmaster
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    Kurtyoo wrote: »
    So was the Quinn abduction an accident as well? No. The guy was abducted and beaten.

    Here, some chap fired shots out of his house at a car. There could have been children in that car dead because some old git chose to fire shots at a vehicle.

    It happened just before midnight. Why would there be kids in a car that late.

    Sounds very tragic. A lot of people don't understand the fear that many old single feel living in rural Ireland at the moment.

    A lot of facts obviously still to come out so noone really knows why it happened yet.


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    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users Posts: 4,704 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Tasfasdf wrote: »
    Ah ya accidents happen grand so

    Don't think that's what I said. But feel free to argue with yourself.


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    walshb
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    Stationmaster wrote: »
    It happened just before midnight. Why would there be kids in a car that late.

    .

    What's the relevance of this question?

    Kids, adults, humans, people......

    All the same, humans!


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    Tasfasdf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 660 ✭✭✭Tasfasdf


    Kurtyoo wrote: »
    That truck outside could be an intruder! Must fire some warning shots...

    *Shoots dead binman*

    Warning shots * aims at the person driving *


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    bladespin
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    Tasfasdf wrote: »
    Ah ya accidents happen grand so

    They do, it's tragic but that's the human animal, we're not infallible, throw a good dose of fear and a gun into the equation and you have a tragedy ready to happen.


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    AulWan
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    Warning shots? Aren't they usually where you point the barrel of the gun up, and fire into the air?

    Not in the direction of the "intruder"?


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    riffmongous
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    It was inevitable given the lack of support for elderly rural people, the crime rate, the lack of response to crime and let's be honest here the Nally cheerleaders have a portion of blame too


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    walshb
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    bladespin wrote: »
    They do, it's tragic but that's the human animal, we're not infallible, throw a good dose of fear and a gun into the equation and you have a tragedy ready to happen.

    Yes, tragedies, accidents and mistakes happen; but some do not deserve to go unchallenged or unpunished, and putting some down to simple accidents doesn't cut it.

    Reckless behavior is probably the best description for a lot of these "accidents."


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    GooglePlus
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    He should be locked up so, simple as.

    Regardless of the fact that he may have thought it was an intruder, you don't go firing "warning shots" about like you're in a western.


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    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 54,584 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    He should be locked up so, simple as.

    Regardless of the fact that he may have thought it was an intruder, you don't go firing "warning shots" about like you're in a western.

    If they were warning shots then this man really is a danger!


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    Riskymove
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    walshb wrote: »
    And the reports describing this as a tragic accident? Doesn't sound like any accident to me.

    we can speculate all day just as you have

    perhaps he brought out the gun but didn't mean to actually fire and it went off

    perhaps he meant to fire in warning rather than hit anyone

    perhaps he has been robbed/assaulted before and so terrified he panicked


    perhaps he is a lunatic or he meant to shoot the guy

    but it doesn't mean much until we get more actual details


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    Odyssey 2005
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    LuasSimon wrote: »
    It shows the fear people are living under in Rural Ireland with all the robberies and burglaries, any noise at night time is met with fear ..

    No garda Stations and roaming traveller gangs have Rural Ireland under siege not that Fine Gael Dublin care.

    100% correct. The gardai and government have failed rural communities ant incidents like this are the result.


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    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users Posts: 4,704 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Odyssey 2005 wrote: »
    100% correct. The gardai and government have failed rural communities ant incidents like this are the result.

    How many Garda stations should there be? who pays for all this. I have sympathy but realistically they can't be everywhere.


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    weldoninhio
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    Tasfasdf wrote: »
    Warning shots * aims at the person driving *

    I haven't seen any reports that the deceased man was in the car. He could have seen a car and fired into a field/treeline and hit him.


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    riffmongous
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,625 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Kurtyoo wrote: »
    Padraig Nally was tormented so I have sympathy for him.

    This guy wasn't known to Gardaí and his only crime was pulling up near his house for a second.

    Yes sympathy for him for sure, even though I personallydon't agree with him killing the man


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    B-D-P--
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    Lads to put some perspective, the man who shot the gun is 80+ years.
    He didn't purposely aim at the car is word on the street, and yes, in rural Ireland, On a road like that, farmers do be sh*tting themselves when a car pulls up outside.

    Its often a knacker coming to beat you to a pulp to rob your last €100 you have saved under your mattress.

    This man shot his friend, I'm sure he's distraught.


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    walshb
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    Riskymove wrote: »
    we can speculate all day just as you have

    perhaps he brought out the gun but didn't mean to actually fire and it went off

    perhaps he meant to fire in warning rather than hit anyone

    perhaps he has been robbed/assaulted before and so terrified he panicked


    perhaps he is a lunatic or he meant to shoot the guy

    but it doesn't mean much until we get more actual details

    Yes, and he can easily say that he didn't mean this, that or the other.....

    Only he can know what he truly meant.

    Fact is that he discharged a shot(s), and a man has lost his very existence...

    Red herrings aside, I think he acted in a deliberate fashion, and nothing to do with accidentally going off, etc...


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    LuasSimon
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    Failure to deal with all the Traveller gangs robbing all over rural Ireland has created huge fear and distrust, could well be this mans house was broken into before , if your eighty years of age with the possibility of burglars going beating you up or worse is it any wonder a frightened man would shoot first and ask questions later.


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    #25
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 54,584 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    B-D-P-- wrote: »

    This man shot his friend, I'm sure he's distraught.

    Yes, and if true then this makes his act even more reckless.

    He just decided to shoot, and not give two hoots what the consequence was...

    Fingers crossed it's not someone "innocent," was he thinking?


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    #26
    Riskymove
    Registered Users Posts: 10,885 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    walshb wrote: »
    Only he can know what he truly meant.

    he...and you apparently.....

    thread already in trial by social media territory


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    AulWan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭AulWan


    B-D-P-- wrote: »
    Lads to put some perspective, the man who shot the gun is 80+ years.
    He didn't purposely aim at the car is word on the street, and yes, in rural Ireland, On a road like that, farmers do be sh*tting themselves when a car pulls up outside.

    Its often a knacker coming to beat you to a pulp to rob your last €100 you have saved under your mattress.

    This man shot his friend, I'm sure he's distraught.

    He didn't aim into the air, either.

    I am sure his distress will be great consolation to the dead man's family.


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    Odyssey 2005
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    Kurtyoo wrote: »
    IMO this is murder, plain and simple.

    Grand so.


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    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Kurtyoo wrote: »
    IMO this is murder, plain and simple.

    Alright Taggart. Case closed.


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    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 54,584 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Kurtyoo wrote: »
    He is no better than the people who attacked the Quinn Director.

    Not in agreement here. They set out to deliberately target and hurt another person. Inflict deliberate hurt, terror and pain...

    This man seems to have committed a dangerous reckless act that very likely was not forethought/planned...


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    Bob Harris
    Registered Users Posts: 3,462 ✭✭✭Bob Harris


    Kurtyoo wrote: »
    He is no better than the people who attacked the Quinn Director.

    Will ya piss off troll.


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