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Immigrant Caravan's WTF?!

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  • #62
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭[Deleted User]


    Fly them to Canada, not packing heat up there.


  • #63
    TheValeyard
    Registered Users Posts: 12,198 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    wexie wrote: »
    Calling 15000 people trying to get into a country with a population of over 300 million an 'invasion' is like calling a mosquito in your room an assassination attempt...

    :rolleyes:

    To be fair, mosquitos have killed millions now.

    Fcuk Putin. Glory to Ukraine!



  • #64
    TheValeyard
    Registered Users Posts: 12,198 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    El Tarangu wrote: »
    In 2018, people don't even need for anything to have happened to get their outrage cranked up to 11...

    Dont worry, calm down, have a cup of tea, then come back to us xx

    Fcuk Putin. Glory to Ukraine!



  • #65
    bfa1509
    Registered Users Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭bfa1509


    green shoots wrote: »
    It's sad really. I mean it's easy for us to say omg they can't just expect to walk in there, but if you or I were from sh*thole like Honduras, chances are you'd be in the caravan too.
    Here in Europe we can expect an endless growing flow of Africans to start flooding Europe, especially with climate change and droughts and crop failures etc. I really expect to see machine guns slaughtering hoardes trying to enter the US/Europe, before I die. The world is bursting at the seams and resources are going to become more scarce.

    Climate change, droughts and crop failures have nothing to do with it. Didn't you see in the video? They all have smartphones and access to the internet, which means they can see how people in the US/Europe etc. live. The realisation of how much of a relatively sh*thole country they live in is what drives them to move.


  • #66
    green shoots
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 54 ✭✭green shoots


    bfa1509 wrote: »
    Climate change, droughts and crop failures have nothing to do with it. Didn't you see in the video? They all have smartphones and access to the internet, which means they can see how people in the US/Europe etc. live. The realisation of how much of a relatively sh*thole country they live in is what drives them to move.

    Well yeah they're obviously attracted by the life depicted to them on their phones etc

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/30/migrant-caravan-causes-climate-change-central-america

    worth a read


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  • #67
    juice1304
    Registered Users Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭juice1304


    wexie wrote: »
    Calling 15000 people trying to get into a country with a population of over 300 million an 'invasion' is like calling a mosquito in your room an assassination attempt...

    :rolleyes:

    There are already an estimated 30 million illegal immigrants living there... At what point is it an invasion then?


  • #68
    7aubzxk43m2sni
    Closed Accounts Posts: 636 ✭✭✭7aubzxk43m2sni


    Anyone ever read Grapes of Wrath?


  • #69
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,770 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Monserrat Crashing Harpsichord wrote: »
    Anyone ever read Grapes of Wrath?


    The Ghost of Tom Joad.
    Listen to the Springsteen/Morello version.


  • #70
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    bfa1509 wrote: »
    Climate change....

    It started by 160 people in the crime-ridden Honduran city of San Pedro Sula, they're escaping gang violence, drug wars and corruption. They don't worry much about the actual weather.

    After a former politician posted about it on Facepuke, the movement grew quickly (quick impluse reactions) and the next day it had 1,000 Hondurans. Most of them don't care jack about the weather neither.

    If Hondura state actually got it's act together, maybe they wouldn't have the highest murder rate of any major city in the world.


  • #71
    Akrasia
    Registered Users Posts: 22,231 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    Saw some of them being interviewed the other day. Some are bringing their kids including babies. given the recent stuff with people being detained and separated from their children at the border, I don't know why they want to come. I'm a legal immigrant to the US and I worry about that. Not worth the risk imo.
    Lads, these aren't illegal immigrants. They're asylum seekers. They're refugees. They're trying to get to the US border so they can lodge their applications and stay in the country legally.

    If they wanted to sneak into the country, they're going about it in a very wierd way.

    Europe take in about a million of refugees a year, America, should be waking up to it's responsibilities that it has signed up to through it's membership of the UNHCR and international human rights treaties.

    The solution to refugee crisis is to tackle the reasons why these people are forced to leave their countries.


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  • #72
    TheValeyard
    Registered Users Posts: 12,198 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    23:19

    Fcuk Putin. Glory to Ukraine!



  • #73
    Duffy the Vampire Slayer
    Registered Users Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭Duffy the Vampire Slayer


    The US government expects Colombia and Peru to host millions of Venezuelans but wants to open fire on a few thousand Hondurans going to their border.


  • #74
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Akrasia wrote: »
    Lads, these aren't illegal immigrants. They're asylum seekers. They're refugees.

    Some 'may be', but as you alluded to already, some are simply 'looking for a better life'.
    Akrasia wrote: »
    Europe take in about a million of refugees a year, America, should be waking up to it's responsibilities that it has signed up to through it's membership of the UNHCR and international human rights treaties.

    And look at how things are going for Europe, hard-Brexit shortly, and an Itaxeit on the cards. German towns filled with rampant gangs, challenging election results in Sweden, forced integration in Denmark. Issues with Hungry and Poland being forced to accept migrants. Ireland is 7th fav to leave after these six.

    The US already offers the DV visa opportunity, and is dealing with long-term, elevated levels of migration from Mexico already.
    Akrasia wrote: »
    The solution to refugee crisis is to tackle the reasons why these people are forced to leave their countries.

    Exactly, problems are best dealt with at source with foreign aid, advisory services and investment. The reasons and source, not clearing up the messy after-effects.


  • #75
    7aubzxk43m2sni
    Closed Accounts Posts: 636 ✭✭✭7aubzxk43m2sni


    Jesus Flaky Subway wrote: »
    Some 'may be', but as you alluded to already, some are simply 'looking for a better life'.



    And look at how things are going for Europe, hard-Brexit shortly, and an Itaxeit on the cards. German towns filled with rampant gangs, challenging election results in Sweden, forced integration in Denmark. Issues with Hungry and Poland being forced to accept migrants. Ireland is 7th fav to leave after these six.

    Citation needed


  • #76
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Monserrat Crashing Harpsichord wrote: »
    Citation needed

    Maybe your not up to date on Europe 2018.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-migrants-germany-rape/merkel-ally-wants-tough-message-on-sex-crimes-for-refugees-idUSKCN1N64RF

    https://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/not-so-hygge-why-denmark-is-no-cosy-place-for-migrants-36943770.html


  • #77
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Then there's Sweden, who's largest musical festival is now 'female only', due to more of those long fingers and touchy touchy hands. Progress.


  • #78
    prinzeugen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,891 ✭✭✭prinzeugen


    Akrasia wrote: »
    Lads, these aren't illegal immigrants. They're asylum seekers. They're refugees. They're trying to get to the US border so they can lodge their applications and stay in the country legally.

    If they wanted to sneak into the country, they're going about it in a very wierd way.

    Europe take in about a million of refugees a year, America, should be waking up to it's responsibilities that it has signed up to through it's membership of the UNHCR and international human rights treaties.

    The solution to refugee crisis is to tackle the reasons why these people are forced to leave their countries.

    Refugees my arse! They are economic migrants.


  • #79
    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB8wMURSkDA


  • #80
    green shoots
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 54 ✭✭green shoots


    prinzeugen wrote: »
    Refugees my arse! They are economic migrants.

    Whether they are or not, isn't it only human nature to try and have a better life? Do you think if you were living in some sub saharan sh*thole, or in a ghetto in Honduras, you wouldn't consider getting the hell out of there? I'm pretty sure most of us would.


  • #81
    backspin.
    Registered Users Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭backspin.


    Jesus Flaky Subway wrote: »
    Then there's Sweden, who's largest musical festival is now 'female only'.

    Would that have happened if the men attending were native Swedes. We all know the answer to that.


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  • #82
    super_furry
    Registered Users Posts: 27,320 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    There's hardly an election coming up in the US anytime soon, is there?


  • #83
    Pero_Bueno
    Closed Accounts Posts: 502 ✭✭✭Pero_Bueno


    To all the people that think the US should just open it's borders and let everyone in , would you let them in your house to live ?


  • #84
    Mr. teddywinkles
    Registered Users Posts: 1,962 ✭✭✭Mr. teddywinkles


    green shoots wrote: »
    Well yeah they're obviously attracted by the life depicted to them on their phones etc

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/30/migrant-caravan-causes-climate-change-central-america

    worth a read

    Funnily enough we had farmers here complain about floods and hard winters devastating crop outputs but hey whatever.


  • #85
    Mr. teddywinkles
    Registered Users Posts: 1,962 ✭✭✭Mr. teddywinkles


    Pero_Bueno wrote: »
    To all the people that think the US should just open it's borders and let everyone in , would you let them in your house to live ?

    Of course they would. What ya take them for. Selfish.


  • #86
    Mr. teddywinkles
    Registered Users Posts: 1,962 ✭✭✭Mr. teddywinkles


    green shoots wrote: »
    Whether they are or not, isn't it only human nature to try and have a better life? Do you think if you were living in some sub saharan sh*thole, or in a ghetto in Honduras, you wouldn't consider getting the hell out of there? I'm pretty sure most of us would.
    Climate aside, Ireland a hundred years ago wasn't exactly a desirable destination. People stayed and made something of it.
    Granted it won't happen over nite. But this up and abandon every thing (king and country)because ya see a you tube video of a guy somewhere else living it up elsewhere, which truth be told we all know isn't exactly as clear cut as that.


  • #87
    green shoots
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 54 ✭✭green shoots


    Mr. teddywinkles wrote: »
    Climate aside, Ireland a hundred years ago wasn't exactly a desirable destination. People stayed and made something of it.
    Granted it won't happen over nite. But this up and abandon every thing (king and country)because ya see a you tube video of a guy somewhere else living it up elsewhere, which truth be told we all know isn't exactly as clear cut as that.

    People stayed? Half of Ireland moved abroad ffs


  • #88
    Grab All Association
    Registered Users Posts: 3,917 ✭✭✭Grab All Association


    the majrity of the refugees from honduras are women and children
    and the men are doctors and engineers
    OPEN THET BORDER PRESIDENT TRUMP

    Our new multicultural doctors and engineers were wrongfully searched and arrested by AGS today here in Thurles Shopping Centre. Racists put items of clothing in their bags! The security guard targeted them because their skin colour and peaceful religious beliefs.


  • #89
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    green shoots wrote: »
    People stayed? Half of Ireland moved abroad ffs


    DfKL_yPX4AAAaPG.jpg


  • #90
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    juice1304 wrote: »
    There are already an estimated 30 million illegal immigrants living there... At what point is it an invasion then?

    Whose estimates are they? Breitbart? Fox?

    Go on show us?


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  • #91
    Mr. teddywinkles
    Registered Users Posts: 1,962 ✭✭✭Mr. teddywinkles


    green shoots wrote: »
    People stayed? Half of Ireland moved abroad ffs

    So what happened the other half they die off. And FFS don't say they left food for the rest of the population.


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