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Getting fitted for a suit

  • 21-05-2019 11:56pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 6,810 ✭✭✭


    I need to buy at least two suits (one for office and one for weddings) and want to get measured up in advance.
    Can anywhere like Debenhams / next menswear do this or are you expected to have all your sixes already?
    Anyone recommend anywhere along those lines, bearing in mind I detest clothes shopping. Budget circa 250e each but I'd prefer to spend half that if I could without scrimping on quality.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭pixbyjohn


    M & S


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,525 ✭✭✭wandererz


    Simona1986 wrote: »
    I need to buy at least two suits (one for office and one for weddings) and want to get measured up in advance.
    Can anywhere like Debenhams / next menswear do this or are you expected to have all your sixes already?
    Anyone recommend anywhere along those lines, bearing in mind I detest clothes shopping. Budget circa 250e each but I'd prefer to spend half that if I could without scrimping on quality.

    :)

    Please DON'T do that. All you are going to get is super shiny & super skinny suits.

    Decide on which is required first & foremost...Probably the work suit.

    Out of your €500 budget (€250 x 2), set aside €400-€450 to get a great suit that you will enjoy wearing for a good while yet and which people will complement you on.

    Only buy the suit if if you can can get 2 or more trousers included in the price. The reason for this is that the jackets outlast the trousers & it's better to have more trousers to survive multiple wears & washes.

    You can use this for work & perhaps for the first wedding or two.

    Set aside the extra €50-€100 to add to the next suit purchase.

    As to where, if you can get to Kildare Village then check out Savoy Tailors Guild. You would get a great suit, even two & get measured up as well. Let them know you need multiple trousers for the work suit.

    Buy a colour like dark/navy blue, that way you can always, later on, buy sports coats in a similar colour that can be worn with the trousers and alternate them for work.

    Don't go buying super skinny suits unless you have money to throw away or you are certain that you won't expand.

    Also consider your local suit specialist store or tailor.
    Failing that, look at M&S as well but with their specialist/tailored ranges.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,517 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    Dorian Black all the way. Balbriggan store is super, guy there called Kevin knows his $hit. In house Tailors so everything can be adjusted.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,810 ✭✭✭Alkers


    Hoboo wrote:
    Dorian Black all the way. Balbriggan store is super, guy there called Kevin knows his $hit. In house Tailors so everything can be adjusted.

    How much are we talking?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    Simona1986 wrote: »
    I need to buy at least two suits (one for office and one for weddings) and want to get measured up in advance.
    Can anywhere like Debenhams / next menswear do this or are you expected to have all your sixes already?
    Anyone recommend anywhere along those lines, bearing in mind I detest clothes shopping. Budget circa 250e each but I'd prefer to spend half that if I could without scrimping on quality.

    When you say "measured up in advance" do you mean you want a bespoke/ made-to-measure suit? If that's the case you will not get a good hard-wearing suit for €250. Not even close. At less than €200 you will be paying the price in quality, but if you're not going to be wearing a suit multiple times a week maybe that's ok. I personally think a lot of people go OTT on suits when they don't need to. I bought 2 really nice suits when I was in the US costing me €1000+ and honestly I wish I'd bought the 'lesser quality' ones that looked almost identical because I've barely worn them since. But I have 1 suit I bought in Burtons that I have worn a few times because it suits me better, and I don't wear suits to much except social events. So you could adjust your budget and buy a higher quality office suit and a lesser quality but more interesting social suit.

    I know you say you detest clothes shopping but for suits you might just have to suck it up and try stuff on until you find somewhere that fits you as well as possible off the rack, then get some alterations done. Different suit brands have different types of cuts. Some will suit M&S better than the in-house Debenhams brands, for example.

    I do always recommend M&S as a first stop if you want to go down the highstreet route, especially if it's for a suit or two that you're not going to need to wear more than a few times a month/year. Try the jacket size you think you are, then keep going down in size until you can't close it, then go up a size (as a ROUGH guide) 90% of guys in particular wear suits that are too big because they want to feel in a suit like they do in jeans and a t-shirt. Suits are meant to fit closer to the body than casual clothes. M&S have some really lovely suits in at the moment, and my Dad has multiple suits from them and if you look after them properly (ie having them cleaned as little as possible but using a clothes brush and hanging them after every wear to get off dirt) they'll last you years. My Dad has an M&S suit he bought 15 years ago, worn a few times a year for various occasions and it's still perfect.

    I'd always recommend a navy suit for a first office suit, and tbh you can also wear than to 99% of weddings if you jazz up your accessories away from what you'd wear to the office.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,810 ✭✭✭Alkers


    When you say "measured up in advance" do you mean you want a bespoke/ made-to-measure suit? If that's the case you will not get a good hard-wearing suit for €250. Not even close. At less than €200 you will be paying the price in quality, but if you're not going to be wearing a suit multiple times a week maybe that's ok. I personally think a lot of people go OTT on suits when they don't need to. I bought 2 really nice suits when I was in the US costing me €1000+ and honestly I wish I'd bought the 'lesser quality' ones that looked almost identical because I've barely worn them since. But I have 1 suit I bought in Burtons that I have worn a few times because it suits me better, and I don't wear suits to much except social events. So you could adjust your budget and buy a higher quality office suit and a lesser quality but more interesting social suit.

    Thanks for the detailed reply, no I don't mean a custom made suit but someone to measure me and advise on what size is the correct fit as I don't have a clue and would just choose what feels comfortable as you've highlighted in your post. I don't mind paying a bit more, particularly if I could get someone to measure me and advise as to fit etc as opposed to just browsing and trying on suits from the racks.

    It will only be for occasional use so there's not much value to me in spending big money. There seems to be a good range with 50% off on Debenhams online currently, would these be ok quality?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,517 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    Simona1986 wrote: »
    How much are we talking?

    Look at their website. I picked up one of their own brand suits for 220, spare trousers for 80, and a Douglas suit that was half price for 250.

    You'll be pleasantly surprised at the quality.and service, m&s hasn't a patch on them. Just look at the reviews.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Do you need two suits? If it's only occasional use you could get one decent navy suit and use it for both. I also wouldn't buy two suits at the time, buy one first and see what you like or don't like about it and then get another one. Personally I think specialised and independent shops are better at advising you what to wear and the size you should go for. (Galvin's in Tullamore is good example but your budget would have to stretch slightly.)


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    Simona1986 wrote: »
    Thanks for the detailed reply, no I don't mean a custom made suit but someone to measure me and advise on what size is the correct fit as I don't have a clue and would just choose what feels comfortable as you've highlighted in your post. I don't mind paying a bit more, particularly if I could get someone to measure me and advise as to fit etc as opposed to just browsing and trying on suits from the racks.

    It will only be for occasional use so there's not much value to me in spending big money. There seems to be a good range with 50% off on Debenhams online currently, would these be ok quality?

    Ah ok I get where you're coming from.

    If you're struggling to get the right fit I'd recommend not buying online in the first instance, simply because it's actually a lot of faff if the sizes are wrong to return them etc. You could go in to a local debenhams and try everything on then buy them online if the sale is only online. Debenhams in particular have 6 different suit fits available on their site, it would be hard for you to get it right without trying the different types on.

    Fashionbeans have a decent basic guide on how suits should fit so you know what to look for: https://www.fashionbeans.com/article/how-a-suit-should-fit/

    Debenhams have a free personal shopper service which might be useful if you want someone to guide you. I personally would hate to have a person that I don't know helping me buy my clothes so i can't advise on that score! Do you have any friends or family that have a good eye for fit? Having someone you trust who knows how a suit should fit is always helpful in situations like this.

    I always get nervous that the sales people are going to tell me I look good because either a) they don't know what they're talking about or b) want a sale. I've been done that way before and it makes you panic and buy whatever they tell you.

    However, I'd also be guided by other guys here who buy more suits than me. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,510 ✭✭✭Wheety


    Unless you're a strange shape, just go into M&S and try on a couple of suits. Their slim fitting ones look tailored. Fits me perfectly.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheW1zard


    I got my bestman and groomsman suits in Best Menswear in Dundrum. They got fitted out and got free adjustments 2 weeks before the wedding. Cost 250 each. Shirts and Dicky bows 50 each. So the final bill was approx. 600.
    They were looking sharp!


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,087 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    It's a bit off what you are asking, but once you know your measurements I would recommend Suitsupply. It's an online store but I will never buy another make of suit again. I have seven of their suits and the quality and fit has been the best I've ever bought, and that includes suits from Louis Copeland.

    Their fits are pretty standard, so if you are, say, a 40L in M&S size you'll be a 40L in Suitsupply size. They have a standard fit (Napoli) and then more fitted / slimmer models (Lazio / Washington).

    The great thing is they do free delivery and return, so if the suit doesn't fit you can just send it back.

    One tip, they do a lot of linen and cotton suits, so make sure you are getting what you need - wool is probably your best bet as our temperatures aren't high enough to justify linen; cotton creases very easily so I'd steer away from that.

    https://eu.suitsupply.com/en_IE/overview_suits

    Knock yourself out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,991 ✭✭✭DavyD_83


    Wheety wrote: »
    Unless you're a strange shape, just go into M&S and try on a couple of suits. Their slim fitting ones look tailored. Fits me perfectly.

    The counter point to that is unless you are a very standard shape you'll have a hard time finding a perfectly firing sir in M&S.
    I'm guessing if OP was one of the lucky few, he'd have had no trouble getting a suit before now.

    Recently, I've had good experiences with Best menswear in Dundrum. They are definitely salesmen, but they don't seem to push to hard on the most expensive etc.
    They seem to take the approach that happy customers are return customers, which I see less and less of these days.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,087 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    Wherever you get your suit, all I can say is this:

    - Make sure the jacket at least covers half, if not all, of the buttocks. I'm sick of seeing guys walking around in suit jackets that are no longer than their waistband. Unless it already fits snugly, bring the jacket to a tailor and get them to take it in as necessary.

    - Conversely make sure your trousers aren't too long - the trend now is for the hem to sit over the shoe (and if you go to Italy you'll see lots of ankles) but if you even have one "break" that'll be just fine.

    - Your jacket sleeves shouldn't be too long either - you should be able to see 1/2 an inch of your shirt sleeves. So make sure you also have a good fitting shirt too!

    Get a two button suit, and leave the bottom button undone while you wear it. For a nice touch, pop a white pocket square in your top pocket. Just fold it over and stick it in, it doesn't need to be ironed flat (unless you want to go for that style).

    The rest is up to you. Just don't get a black suit.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭wally1990


    Wherever you get your suit, all I can say is this:

    - Make sure the jacket at least covers half, if not all, of the buttocks. I'm sick of seeing guys walking around in suit jackets that are no longer than their waistband. Unless it already fits snugly, bring the jacket to a tailor and get them to take it in as necessary.

    - Conversely make sure your trousers aren't too long - the trend now is for the hem to sit over the shoe (and if you go to Italy you'll see lots of ankles) but if you even have one "break" that'll be just fine.

    - Your jacket sleeves shouldn't be too long either - you should be able to see 1/2 an inch of your shirt sleeves. So make sure you also have a good fitting shirt too!

    Get a two button suit, and leave the bottom button undone while you wear it. For a nice touch, pop a white pocket square in your top pocket. Just fold it over and stick it in, it doesn't need to be ironed flat (unless you want to go for that style).

    The rest is up to you. Just don't get a black suit.

    Solid advice for OP


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Wherever you get your suit, all I can say is this:

    - Make sure the jacket at least covers half, if not all, of the buttocks. I'm sick of seeing guys walking around in suit jackets that are no longer than their waistband. Unless it already fits snugly, bring the jacket to a tailor and get them to take it in as necessary.

    I've noticed this a lot.
    Is this not the fashion now with skinny fitted suits?

    Mostly old gents have the longer jackets.
    I've rarely noticed any 'younger' lads with the jacket fully over the arse anymore. I agree half way at least looks better.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,087 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    I've noticed this a lot.
    Is this not the fashion now with skinny fitted suits?

    Mostly old gents have the longer jackets.
    I've rarely noticed any 'younger' lads with the jacket fully over the arse anymore. I agree half way at least looks better.

    A suit is a classic piece of menswear and therefore the way it fits should reflect that. Sure, you can go for a more snug fitting Italian style suit, or a more generous English cut. But there's certain rules that should be stuck to, including the length of the jacket.

    It also depends on your build. I'm tall so a longer jacket looks better on me.

    Young lads, and let's face it, not so young lads in this country have no clue how to wear suits.


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