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US congresswomen refuse to condemn brutal attack on ICE facility.

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    #62
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    notobtuse wrote: »
    I think over 90% of Americans might disagree with that.

    I think 91% would agree.


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    #63
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    I think 91% would agree.
    The Democrats released a poll that shows she only has a 9% approval rating, or something. Republicans didn't release that... Democrats did.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #64
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users Posts: 43,024 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    I would like these people to put their vision their endgame of how they want America to look like

    The full picture now

    Not drip drip drip

    Be honest with the people


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    #65
    Sir Guy who smiles
    Registered Users Posts: 201 ✭✭Sir Guy who smiles


    Still waters wrote: »
    So whats your point

    My point - not super relevant to the thread, as I admitted- was you can't say a watch was cheap by comparing it to a car, because in any sane person's budget the % assigned to personal transport will dwarf the % assigned to a largely decorative timepiece.

    I was merely pointing out a flaw in the logic of a post whose larger point I agreed with. My inner pedant drove me to it.


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    #66
    [Deleted User]
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    Matt Barrett wrote:
    She's the best thing to happen politically for the American people in many many years.

    Oh good god. I really wish that was sarcasm but I know it wasn't.


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    #67
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    notobtuse wrote: »
    The Democrats released a poll that shows she only has a 9% approval rating, or something. Republicans didn't release that... Democrats did.

    I don't care what the democrats do. As much as the Republicans are a disgrace and actively hate the American people, the Democrats ain't that great.

    Biden will lose against Trump. They need cull the elder Democrats.


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    #68
    Sonny noggs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    I don't care what the democrats do. As much as the Republicans are a disgrace and actively hate the American people, the Democrats ain't that great.

    Biden will lose against Trump. They need cull the elder Democrats.

    You wouldn’t fancy Hilary running again then?


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    #69
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Sonny noggs wrote: »
    You wouldn’t fancy Hilary running again then?

    She was a better option than Trump but still, I wouldn't envy choosing between those two. She already won once.


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    #70
    Sonny noggs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    She was a better option than Trump but still, I wouldn't envy choosing between those two. She already won once.

    Sorry, ‘won’ what? If she won she would be in the White House? Or do you mean the meaningless so called ‘popular vote’?

    I doubt they would be rigging the Democrat selection process for a second time if she chose to run again.


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    #71
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Sonny noggs wrote: »
    Sorry, ‘won’ what? If she won she would be in the White House? Or do you mean the meaningless so called ‘popular vote’?

    I doubt they would be rigging the Democrat selection process for a second time if she chose to run again.

    More members of the public voted for Clinton. That's good enough for me and most democracies.
    They'll want Biden. While he might be their best shot, it would be nice if they put forward some fresh blood IMO.


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    #72
    K.Flyer
    Registered Users Posts: 8,565 ✭✭✭K.Flyer


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    She's the best thing to happen politically for the American people in many many years.

    Nonsense, she only won in her area because of no competition.
    A glass of water with a "D" beside it could have won in her district.


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    #73
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    K.Flyer wrote: »
    Nonsense, she only won in her area because of no competition.
    A glass of water with a "D" beside it could have won in her district.

    How tough or easy she had it getting elected isn't my point. Did I say it was? She gets on Pelosi's tits, that's good for a start.


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    #74
    Sonny noggs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    More members of the public voted for Clinton. That's good enough for me.

    But not good enough to get elected, which was the reason for her raising and spending hundreds of millions of dollars. Unless she was actually targeting the popular vote as a moral victory but didn’t want to actually win. That would make sense in hindsight though.


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    #75
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,283 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    She's the best thing to happen politically for the American people in many many years.
    The old Liberal guard need to go. The Republicans have no ethics and are only out for themselves as shown by their backing of the racist Trump.

    Please defend that in any manor, this actually seems like the most outrageousstatement of this thread


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    #76
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 28,984 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    The Enbalmer wrote: »
    The so-called Right Wing seem to be far more intelligent than those on the left.

    If the word "racist" hadn't been invented the liberal dummies would have an even smaller vocabulary.


    if someone tells someone born in the same country as them, who has a different skin color, to go back to their own country, then they are a racist.
    they are saying the person of color is automatically not a citizen by virtue of the color of their skin.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #77
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Seems like After Hours in here!!


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    #78
    Sir Guy who smiles
    Registered Users Posts: 201 ✭✭Sir Guy who smiles


    Sonny noggs wrote: »
    But not good enough to get elected, which was the reason for her raising and spending hundreds of millions of dollars. Unless she was actually targeting the popular vote as a moral victory but didn’t want to actually win. That would make sense in hindsight though.

    Ah yes, I remembered Abraham Lincoln's famous definition of democracy:
    Government of the electoral colleges, by the electoral colleges, for the electoral colleges.


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    #79
    Sonny noggs
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    Sir Guy who smiles wrote: »
    Ah yes, I remembered Abraham Lincoln's famous definition of democracy:
    Government of the electoral colleges, by the electoral colleges, for the electoral colleges.

    She lost. Get over it.


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    #80
    Sonny noggs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    end of the road wrote: »
    if someone tells someone born in the same country as them, who has a different skin color, to go back to their own country, then they are a racist.
    they are saying the person of color is automatically not a citizen by virtue of the color of their skin.

    What exactly is a ‘person of color’?


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    #81
    Twenty Grand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭Twenty Grand


    Sonny noggs wrote: »
    What exactly is a ‘person of color’?

    A person who's skin colour is different from the person who's telling them to "go home"


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    #82
    Sonny noggs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    Twenty Grand wrote: »
    A person who's skin colour is different from the person who's telling them to "go home"

    By that definition a white person could be a person of color? Are you sure that definition is correct?


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    #83
    Twenty Grand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭Twenty Grand


    Sonny noggs wrote: »
    By that definition a white person could be a person of color? Are you sure that definition is correct?

    Why does the definition matter?
    How would it detract from the sentiment?

    If a black South African is telling a white South African to go back to Europe is he not a racist?


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    #84
    meeeeh
    Registered Users Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Before he was elected Trump was constantly complaining how much is wrong about America and how America needs to be made great again. Does that mean he can be told to go back to Scotland or Germany or wherever his family members were from. Because that's just following his logic.

    Anyway I agree that AOC abd Trump are just made for each other and they will both benefit from their squabbles. Country might not but they will.


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    #85
    Sonny noggs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    Twenty Grand wrote: »
    Why does the definition matter?
    How would it detract from the sentiment?

    If a black South African is telling a white South African to go back to Europe is he not a racist?

    Who is the ‘person of colour’ in that last scenario?


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    #86
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Ethan Late Transmission wrote: »
    It is a well known fact that genuine emotion and the wearing of mid-range watches are mutually exclusive, what a fcuking cnut!

    Seriously the stuff that people think are some kind of checkmate against AOC is hilarious, I know eff all about her I just keep seeing right-wing raving about her dancing in college, wearing a watch etc. I have to assume there's no actual substantive dirt on her if people are reduced to pretending things like that are big deals, god knows they're looking for anything to undermine her.

    I mostly hear about her from right wing nut jobs. They do a great job of advertising her policies.

    Interestingly enough in the same week Trump said airports were raided during the American war of Indepence AOC was being called stupid by republicans.


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    #87
    Sonny noggs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    I mostly hear about her from right wing nut jobs. They do a great job of advertising her policies.

    Interestingly enough in the same week Trump said airports were raised during the American war of Indepence AOC was being called stupid by republicans.

    Raised? Or razed?


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    #88
    s7ryf3925pivug
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    It's not rhetoric. They are concentration camps.

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/concentration%20camp


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    steddyeddy
    Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    notobtuse wrote: »
    The Democrats released a poll that shows she only has a 9% approval rating, or something. Republicans didn't release that... Democrats did.

    Or something......


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    #90
    The Enbalmer
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭The Enbalmer


    Sir Guy who smiles wrote:
    And I am entitled to lump you in with other right wingers who do use it, because you lumped all left wingers in together and assume they all believe in the exactly the same things.

    Sir Guy who smiles wrote:
    But it is over used by right wingers, who you claimed are smarter than left wingers because of their larger vocabulary.

    Well its certainly unfair to generalise but this sort of hair splitting about terminology is typical libtard(there I said it) obfuscation.

    I actually don't care what the left wing believes as most of them don't actually know themselves..a sort of white-guilt driven version of Marxism seems to be common.

    Culturally and intellectually dangerous drivel.


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    #91
    Melanchthon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,118 ✭✭✭Melanchthon


    I get the feeling posters are missing the point about why right wingers are amplifying AOC and the rest of the "squads" profile, its because they are betting she puts of swing state voters, it also helps that it creates instability and issues for the democrats that are more important as the recent Pelosi stuff highlights. Just because Trump might have dementia by this stage doesn't mean all the republican operatives are clueless.

    She does run a good social media game, the dancing video was shared by a unknown account with few followers and then amplified by her supporters as it put out a positive image of her and a negative view of her critics, was there actually any real conservative "backlash" to it?


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