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20-03-2020, 14:35   #331
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Hi guys. Would this be correct? -- School of the Holy Spirit = Scoil an Spioraid Naoimh
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I think so, yeah - AFAIK the word "Holy" is taken to be part of the noun in this case, rather than an adjective. Otherwise, generations of kids have been taught the wrong way to bless themselves in Irish!
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I think so, yeah - AFAIK the word "Holy" is taken to be part of the noun in this case, rather than an adjective. Otherwise, generations of kids have been taught the wrong way to bless themselves in Irish!
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Ní Bhuachalla

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What is 'Ní Bhuachalla' in English? I know 'Ó Buachalla' is Buckley. Is 'Ní Bhuachalla' another version of Buckley?

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Hi guys.

What is 'Ní Bhuachalla' in English? I know 'Ó Buachalla' is Buckley. Is 'Ní Bhuachalla' another version of Buckley?

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"Ní" replaces "Ó" when the surname belongs to a woman/girl, so you were right - it still means Buckley.

The same thing happens with "Mac" surnames, which change to "Nic" for female names.
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"Ní" replaces "Ó" when the surname belongs to a woman/girl, so you were right - it still means Buckley.

The same thing happens with "Mac" surnames, which change to "Nic" for female names.
I didn't know that. Cheers, IO.

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"Ní" replaces "Ó" when the surname belongs to a woman/girl, so you were right - it still means Buckley.

The same thing happens with "Mac" surnames, which change to "Nic" for female names.
So a woman with the surname Adams would be 'Nic Ádhaimh' instead of 'Mac Ádhaimh'?

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Well, Insect Overlord?
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Well, Insect Overlord?
That is correct.
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Just to add a clarification to that - if a girl is born into e.g. the Mac Coinnigh family, her surname will be Nic Coinnigh. However if she marries into the Mac Coinnigh family, her married surname will become Mhic Coinnigh. In other words, "Nic" indicates "daughter of" while "Mhic" indicates "wife of".

Same thing happens with Ní / Uí.
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Just to add a clarification to that - if a girl is born into e.g. the Mac Coinnigh family, her surname will be Nic Coinnigh. However if she marries into the Mac Coinnigh family, her married surname will become Mhic Coinnigh. In other words, "Nic" indicates "daughter of" while "Mhic" indicates "wife of".

Same thing happens with Ní / Uí.
Hi MC.

So would I be correct what I've compiled here?

Boland - Ní Bheoláin, Ó Beolláin, Ó Breólláin ('Ní' replaces 'Ó' when surname belongs to female.) If a girl is born into the family, her surname will be Ó Bheoláin. However if she marries into family, her married surname will become Uí Bheoláin. In other words, 'Ní' indicates 'daughter of' while 'Uí' indicates 'wife of'.

Adams - Mac Ádhaimh ('Mac' changes to 'Nic' for females.) If a girl is born into Mac Ádhaimh family, her surname will be Nic Ádhaimh. However if she marries into Mac Ádhaimh family, her married surname will become Mhic Ádhaimh. In other words, 'Nic' indicates 'daughter of' while 'Mhic' indicates 'wife of'.
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Is Mac Coinnigh the Irish for both MacKenzie & MacKinney? Or more names?
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This website is good for surnames: https://www.sloinne.ie/surname/ga/mac-coinnigh/

Some more info here: https://www.libraryireland.com/names/macc/mac-coinnigh.php
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Hi MC.

So would I be correct what I've compiled here?

Boland - Ní Bheoláin, Ó Beolláin, Ó Breólláin ('Ní' replaces 'Ó' when surname belongs to female.) If a girl is born into the family, her surname will be Ó Bheoláin. However if she marries into family, her married surname will become Uí Bheoláin. In other words, 'Ní' indicates 'daughter of' while 'Uí' indicates 'wife of'.

Adams - Mac Ádhaimh ('Mac' changes to 'Nic' for females.) If a girl is born into Mac Ádhaimh family, her surname will be Nic Ádhaimh. However if she marries into Mac Ádhaimh family, her married surname will become Mhic Ádhaimh. In other words, 'Nic' indicates 'daughter of' while 'Mhic' indicates 'wife of'.
Would it be more correct to use Bean Uí Bheoláin for the wife's name?
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Would it be more correct to use Bean Uí Bheoláin for the wife's name?
Some people prefer that. Some choose not to use it. I think Mother Foclóir even debated it in one of their podcasts, and recognised it's an interesting facet of feminist linguistic theory and Irish tradition.
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