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    #92
    Maggiesm70
    Registered Users Posts: 28 ✭Maggiesm70


    kylith wrote: »
    That's why young people need to be taught that consent needs to be freely and enthusiastically given. If a person can't tell whether their sexual partner is just 'letting' them do stuff then they have problems.

    There is a tell in that you use the word 'submit'. Submission is not enthusiastic consent. Submission is what happens when someone has been worn down and doesn't feel that refusal is an option.

    very well put


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    One eyed Jack
    Registered Users Posts: 23,656 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    kylith wrote: »
    That's why young people need to be taught that consent needs to be freely and enthusiastically given. If a person can't tell whether their sexual partner is just 'letting' them do stuff then they have problems.

    There is a tell in that you use the word 'submit'. Submission is not enthusiastic consent. Submission is what happens when someone has been worn down and doesn't feel that refusal is an option.


    It’s a nice idea in theory, but anyone intending to commit rape doesn’t care one way or the other whether consent is present, and anyone intending to have sex has no control over whether or not they are raped, or whether they are later accused of committing rape.


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    kylith
    Registered Users Posts: 17,736 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    One eyed Jack wrote: »
    It’s a nice idea in theory, but anyone intending to commit rape doesn’t care one way or the other whether consent is present, and anyone intending to have sex has no control over whether or not they are raped, or whether they are later accused of committing rape.

    No, of course it won't do anything about people who intend to commit rape, but there are too many men who think it's acceptable to pester a woman into sex or to go out with him, or guilt her, or attempt to get her drunk in order to lower her resistance. There is too much of an emphasis of the woman: look at what she was wearing, she shouldn't have been drinking, what did she expect would happen.

    As for people being falsely accused of rape: a man is much more likely to be sexually assaulted himself than to be falsely accused of rape.


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