Are you going to Stockpile ahead of Brexit?

4068ac1elhodqr · 04-09-2019 12:41pm

gozunda wrote: »

You can make really nice bread with oat flour. Proper traditional stuff and not that white mushy yeast stuff
What may disappear for a short period or go up in price are things like specific brands of shampoo, toilet paper and soaps. Alot of what we import comes from the UK.

Flahavan's organic porridge oats is yer only man, stocked in Waitrose and favoured by some Holywood A-listers, however some smallprint states that:

occasionally a shortfall in the supply of Irish organic oats. For this reason, from time to time we may have to source our oats from certified organic growers in 'neighbouring countries'.

With 11gms of Protien, Iron & Thiamin, when combined with a few other essentials (organic honey, good for 2,000ys) is a good stable.

Portsalon · 04-09-2019 2:21pm

Do disposable nappies come from the UK? If so, then the sh1t will literally start hitting the fan in early November!

Odelay · 04-09-2019 7:18pm

El Tarangu wrote: »

As a matter of interest, do you know what the wheat we produce here would be used for, if not in bread?

(I wouldn't imagine we'd have a big pasta manufacturing industry or anything)

It goes for pig and chicken feed.

Akrasia · 04-09-2019 7:27pm

Odelay wrote: »

It goes for pig and chicken feed.

I’ve bought a few extra bags of rice, some extra pasta and tinned tomatoes and about 12 boxes of various types of breakfast cereal. If the worst comes to the worst we’ll always have plenty of fresh milk

iguana · 05-09-2019 7:22am

slave1 wrote: »

Not most, I'm in the industry and all flour is a UK import with very low storage facilities in Ireland so silos will run dry in few days. Virtually all other bread ingredients are from the mainland UK too, just one or two from NI and ZERO bread ingredients from ROI, ZERO

Do you know what our oat situation is? Do we generally grow and process our own? I mainly use oats for bread and cakes so won't miss flour. Though if we have a flour/bread shortage I guess there could be a run on oats.

rock22 · 05-09-2019 12:36pm

As of 2017, UK production of wheat is about 10% of EU total. Germany and France combined produce 4 time as much as UK

rubadub · 05-09-2019 4:05pm

paul71 wrote: »

There are still a few mills here, Shackletons and Oldlams and there is one in Bennetsbridge in Kilkenny. While there are not many I don't know how it can be stated that there are NONE. What the last poster said is true, we can grow wheat but the conditions are not the best, and in fact those conditions are only slightly better in the UK. The conditions are vastly better on the continent and I suspect buyers in Ireland will quickly switch to importing flour from the continent.
After all it is the UK who are locking themselves out of that market not us.

Here is a small specialist italian shop in dublin city centre
http://www.littleitalyltd.com/shop-online/bread-pasta-pizza/62/

€2.10 for a reptuable brand and 00 flour is usually expensive.

BARILLA FARINA ’00’ 1Kg
€2.10

1kg of odlums plain flour is 1.75 in tesco. Cheaper per kilo for big bags of course

slave1 · 07-09-2019 10:49am

paul71 wrote: »

There are still a few mills here, Shackletons and Oldlams and there is one in Bennetsbridge in Kilkenny. While there are not many I don't know how it can be stated that there are NONE. What the last poster said is true, we can grow wheat but the conditions are not the best, and in fact those conditions are only slightly better in the UK. The conditions are vastly better on the continent and I suspect buyers in Ireland will quickly switch to importing flour from the continent.
After all it is the UK who are locking themselves out of that market not us.

I know you're not saying it about my original post but I never said there were no mills in Ireland.
There are no mills in Ireland milling Irish raw material into flour for commercial bread production industry here in Ireland, maybe that's better worded.
All the mass produced bread you see on Irish shelves are 98%+ baked here in Ireland but on 100% imported ingredients.

paul71 · 07-09-2019 11:02am

slave1 wrote: »

I know you're not saying it about my original post but I never said there were no mills in Ireland.
There are no mills in Ireland milling Irish raw material into flour for commercial bread production industry here in Ireland, maybe that's better worded.
All the mass produced bread you see on Irish shelves are 98%+ baked here in Ireland but on 100% imported ingredients.

True and that is better stated, and that is simply because our summers are not long enough to grow wheat commercially especially when our climate is better suited to grass for meat and diary. The summers in the UK are marginally better and their market of 60 million makes it commercially viable to import wheat and mill it. Their wheat comes from farms in the EU (and perhaps Ukraine). In the event of a hard Brexit they are cutting themselves off from their suppliers. That could have a knock on effect short term here but as I mentioned we will continued access to the EU wheat and flour market and they won't.

zell12 · 07-09-2019 11:32am

Someone made the point about medication.
Within the EU, only Malta, Ireland and UK have english as the main language. Ireland is lumped into UK when it comes to pharmaceutical products who have strict regulations to adhere to.
Will there be a temporary shortage of medical products as the market re-adjusts?

What about physical magazines, auto parts, Poundland/Dealz products, clothing ...there is an endless list.

minikin · 07-09-2019 11:42am

I've heard Lego are brickin it.

tayto lover · 07-09-2019 12:22pm

A lot of scaremongering by the EU.
A lot of excuses not to give workers pay rises by our Govt.
A lot of denial about consequences by the British.

Nobody seems to know anything for sure but will use Brexit for their own purposes.

I really don’t give a **** because there’ll never be another famine.

Credit Checker Moose · 07-09-2019 5:35pm

zell12 wrote: »

Someone made the point about medication.
Within the EU, only Malta, Ireland and UK have english as the main language. Ireland is lumped into UK when it comes to pharmaceutical products who have strict regulations to adhere to.
Will there be a temporary shortage of medical products as the market re-adjusts?

What about physical magazines, auto parts, Poundland/Dealz products, clothing ...there is an endless list.

You forgot Cyprus.

Muahahaha · 08-09-2019 12:26pm

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Say it came to it. Would the government be able to implement price freezes to restrict gouging by unscrupulous shops? Obviously they’d be allowed raise prices on stuff coming from and made in the uk but surely not stuff coming from Europe?
You’d definitely get shops chancing their arm.
But could it be stopped before it happens ?

Im largely ambivalent about Brexit but this is my only concern- as the saying goes 'never waste a good crisis'. I can see retailers taking advantage of the confusion to shaft us for another few percent on their margin. They did it with decimalisation and then again on the Irish punt to euro changeover so no doubt they're planning to use Brexit as a way of getting larger margins off the consumer overall.

zell12 · 08-09-2019 3:12pm

Credit Checker Moose wrote: »

You forgot Cyprus.

The official languages of the Republic of Cyprus are Greek and Turkish

PsychoPete · 08-09-2019 3:17pm

Yes, I have every press,drawer and cupboard stuffed with lyons tea bags

AndrewJRenko · 08-09-2019 4:19pm

slave1 wrote: »

I know you're not saying it about my original post but I never said there were no mills in Ireland.
There are no mills in Ireland milling Irish raw material into flour for commercial bread production industry here in Ireland, maybe that's better worded.
All the mass produced bread you see on Irish shelves are 98%+ baked here in Ireland but on 100% imported ingredients.

Are all the oul (or owl perhaps) Odlums mills still in existence? The Dublin is still there but mothballed. I saw the Cork site approved for redevelopment recently, but perhaps it hasn't been knocked down yet. How about Portarlington?

zell12 · 15-09-2019 8:54am

How will a no-deal Brexit affect food prices?
Keep calm, carry on, and prepare to spend £13 or 22.5% more each week on food.
The demand for health services in both the short and longer term is likely to increase due to the effects of food insecurity on disease incidence, management of chronic conditions, amplifying the involvement of physicians in referral to emergency food relief

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 15-09-2019 10:58am

zell12 wrote: »

How will a no-deal Brexit affect food prices?
Keep calm, carry on, and prepare to spend £13 or 22.5% more each week on food.
The demand for health services in both the short and longer term is likely to increase due to the effects of food insecurity on disease incidence, management of chronic conditions, amplifying the involvement of physicians in referral to emergency food relief

Has to be written by an American. Physicians referring people to emergency food relief? Yes, of course that happens. :rolleyes:

The piece is full of inaccuracies. Plus it's aimed at the UK.

Lux23 · 24-09-2019 4:26pm

I am thinking of buying enough Fairy Liquid to last us a year or two. And maybe Lyons tea. Everything else, I can do without or pay more.

otnomart · 24-09-2019 5:08pm

I think I will start stockpiling oatcakes and shortbread.
Only British (Scottish actually !) foods I buy regularly.

4068ac1elhodqr · 24-09-2019 6:41pm

Have a big jar of honey, which is estimated to be able to hold most of it's nutritional and calorie content (safely), for at least 2,000yrs.

L1011 · 24-09-2019 6:49pm

otnomart wrote: »

I think I will start stockpiling oatcakes and shortbread.
Only British (Scottish actually !) foods I buy regularly.

Vast amounts of products you won't think of as British are either packaged there or have some level of production there.

rubadub · 24-09-2019 8:14pm

Is anybody else excited about all the potential new brands & products which might be brought in? I always love visiting supermarkets when abroad to see all the different stuff. I hope lidl & aldi get more stuff in. I have very little brand loyalty and am always willing to try new stuff. Some asian shops already have known brands of products not available in supermarkets, some is very expensive like Tang or some crisps, but some are around the same price, e.g. delmonte ketchup. If these small shops can get it in cheap enough the big boys definitely could.

Akrasia wrote: »

If the worst comes to the worst we’ll always have plenty of fresh milk

This is an article from last year

How supermarket prices could soar if the UK leaves the EU with no deal

The price of everyday necessities including bread, milk, cheese and eggs imported from the UK will soar by up to 46pc in a worst-case scenario.

A two-litre carton of milk would surge from €1.70 to €2.48, while a large white sliced pan is estimated to increase from €1.28 to €1.66 if tariffs and costly customs checks are imposed in the event of a hard Border.

If imported milk "surges" that much it would simply not be on sale, why the hell would they import it?!

zell12 · 25-09-2019 3:21pm

rubadub wrote: »

Is anybody else excited about all the potential new brands & products which might be brought in? I always love visiting supermarkets when abroad to see all the different stuff. !

Aldi&Lidl had strange but excellent quality continental stuff when they came here 15 years ago. People did not buy them. Now they only stock what Irish people want.

rubadub · 25-09-2019 9:42pm

zell12 wrote: »

Now they only stock what Irish people want.

I would still welcome new brands of stuff people will buy, not just totally new products. Like if we start to see the likes of mutti ketchup, different colas etc.

stuff like cakes or biscuits. I get these in dealz and love them, think they are made in Italy (but maybe not)

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L1011 · 25-09-2019 9:58pm

Don't think either of those examples are likely to pop up as sub-ins seeing as there's unlikely to be much of an issue with
either.

Pepsi is made in Ballyfermot from goop made in Ireland; and HBC will just import Coke from another EU market where they are the bottlers if supply from Lisburn is interrupted. The goop for that is all made in ROI too.

And Heinz Ketchup is made in the Netherlands I'm fairly certain

Things we could easily see would be random brands of cleaning products, paper products, flour and possibly more range of parbaked breads made elsewhere. Could also end up with things like whatever Unilever call Persil outside of the few countries where they own that brand (its a totally different product made by Henkel in most countries) with over-stickers on the packaging.

Snow Garden · 25-09-2019 10:14pm

PsychoPete wrote: »

Yes, I have every press,drawer and cupboard stuffed with lyons tea bags

When the time comes I will find you...

Odelay · 25-09-2019 10:18pm

May I be the first to welcome our new overlords of supermarket products.
To the uk suppliers, please go away, enjoy shipping your premium-ish products to Brazil and America in exchange for hormone feed beef, at a price far less than we would pay.
Post brexit the uk will be a third country, possibly going for third world status. ‘‘Tis all madness.

allthedoyles · 29-09-2019 11:37pm

I actually bought a container of dried skimmed milk in Tesco ðŸ˜ plus a few tins of mackerel.
Irish suppliers are moving to Europe and finding similar products there.
We are going to have to get used to the differing tastes.

Are you going to Stockpile ahead of Brexit?

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