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Quickest way you've seen someone lose it all?

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  • #32
    pgj2015
    Registered Users Posts: 8,825 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    ....or stuck at it, and was driven insane by the boss! Sometimes lifes just too short to stick at something just for the money



    working on building sites is very tough work, all the lads I worked with who were in their 30's and 40's had bad backs, knees etc, some of them were in constant pain. plus the young lad would have missed out on college life for a few years, all young people should get to experience that. He could get his degree and make loads of money for less strenuous work.


  • #33
    Bob Harris
    Registered Users Posts: 3,462 ✭✭✭Bob Harris


    Quickest way....eh..death usually has a fairly immediate impact.


  • #34
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,211 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Online gambling, know 2 people who were well off and both destroyed themselves in months.


  • #35
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,765 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    working on building sites is very tough work, all the lads I worked with who were in their 30's and 40's had bad backs, knees etc, some of them were in constant pain. plus the young lad would have missed out on college life for a few years, all young people should get to experience that. He could get his degree and make loads of money for less strenuous work.

    ...and us college educated ones need to get over ourselves with our superiority complexes, yup the trades is tough, very very tough, but extremely important that people do it, you can be damn sure many folks learned far more on a site than any classroom. we need to learn to respect these kind of workers, theyre just as important than us classroom folks, and some can and do become very wealthy for their efforts, and best of luck to them, classrooms arent for all


  • #36
    pgj2015
    Registered Users Posts: 8,825 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    ...and us college educated ones need to get over ourselves with our superiority complexes, yup the trades is tough, very very tough, but extremely important that people do it, you can be damn sure many folks learned far more on a site than any classroom. we need to learn to respect these kind of workers, theyre just as important than us classroom folks, and some can and do become very wealthy for their efforts, and best of luck to them, classrooms arent for all



    I certainly dont think im superior to trades people. But I suppose I was just fed up of the sites and saw this young lad who was a sound guy being treated like dirt by his boss. He said he was waiting on his leaving results, I said if you get a course, take it.


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  • #37
    corner of hells
    Registered Users Posts: 8,353 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Stihl waters wrote: »
    An uncle of mine went under as well owing 3.5 million or something like that, 12 years later and they're still after him, his house is secure as he built it under a sons name 20 years ago, pepper bought all his loans and are hounding him for payment which they'll never get, he doesn't even respond to them anymore as he knows there's nothing they can do, hes 70 now and still does small jobs for cash and spends his time gardening and cycling, hes never been happier and more power to him


    I have a pal who was self employed for years , when the last recession kicked in everything went on him.His house is safe and he potters around doing a few oddjobs keeping himself busy.
    He always says , if he jumoed iff Liberty Hall , he'd never hit the ground because he owes that much money one of his bank managers would catch him.

    I have a trade myself and was only briefly self employed, eventually went back to college and now work in a completely different feild.


  • #38
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,765 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    I certainly dont think im superior to trades people. But I suppose I was just fed up of the sites and saw this young lad who was a sound guy being treated like dirt by his boss. He said he was waiting on his leaving results, I said if you get a course, take it.

    unfortunately i suspect sites is where the rejected end up, and many of those lads are well capable of achieving in a classroom, if given the right tools to do so, many do become great trades people though, and we d be fcuked without them


  • #39
    pgj2015
    Registered Users Posts: 8,825 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    unfortunately i suspect sites is where the rejected end up, and many of those lads are well capable of achieving in a classroom, if given the right tools to do so, many do become great trades people though, and we d be fcuked without them




    I agree, especially as mature students. A lot of people though, once they start something think that that is all they are capable of and stick with it.


  • #40
    Sephiroth_dude
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 79,939 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    Just deleted some posts regarding as yet unfounded allegations against a public figure, no more of that please


  • #41
    vriesmays
    Registered Users Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭vriesmays


    Frank McNamara - use to be a respected, successful, middle-brow composer/musician. Now he's playing at funerals scraping a living after the banks tried to take his home.


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  • #42
    corks finest
    Registered Users Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭corks finest


    corner of hells wrote: »
    When i got married.

    Twice as bad for me


  • #43
    the beer revolu
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    dreamers75 wrote: »
    Buddy of mine in a good job did E one night and lost it, homeless in Amsterdam afaik.

    I guessing that this is only a tiny part of the story and that's being generous.


  • #44
    corks finest
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    corner of hells wrote: »
    I have a pal who was self employed for years , when the last recession kicked in everything went on him.His house is safe and he potters around doing a few oddjobs keeping himself busy.
    He always says , if he jumoed iff Liberty Hall , he'd never hit the ground because he owes that much money one of his bank managers would catch him.

    I have a trade myself and was only briefly self employed, eventually went back to college and now work in a completely different feild.

    Self employment in the free state is a complete bollox methinks, construction wise anyway, several of my friends worked 70/80 hours for several years but nothing to show for it except health problems,get sick and you're goosed,yeahhhhh its slightly better than it was but only slightly, myself and my mate made a complete hames of it also


  • #45
    [Deleted User]
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Afaik thats why mick wallace is held in such huge esteem in wexford,he fended off banks and taxman long enough to pay off the small independant contractors before going under himself

    He also raided his employees pension fund and signedover his Italian vineyard to his brother so NAMA wouldn’t take it off them.

    The Robin Hood story about Wallace is bullshït. He’s a fūcking chancer.


  • #46
    the beer revolu
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    Abominable Dr. Phibes wrote: »
    He also raided his employees pension fund and signedover his Italian vineyard to his brother so NAMA wouldn’t take it off them.

    The Robin Hood story about Wallace is bullshït. He’s a fūcking chancer.

    Look how many people see Quinn as an absolute hero!


  • #47
    Motivator
    Registered Users Posts: 2,739 ✭✭✭Motivator


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Afaik thats why mick wallace is held in such huge esteem in wexford,he fended off banks and taxman long enough to pay off the small independant contractors before going under himself

    There’s another local fella who went bang for €28m. He was a flash Harry who borrowed up to his bollocks to lead a life that was completely alien to him. He went to the wall, declared himself bankrupt and disappeared to the UK for a couple of years. He came back and started a business again and around town was viewed as some sort of hero for some strange reason. No mention of the umpteen local lads that he completely screwed over or the lies he told to get into the position of power that he did.

    The builder who went belly up but had the decency to look after people is viewed as a loser while this guy is seen by some sort of hero.


  • #48
    corks finest
    Registered Users Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭corks finest


    Motivator wrote: »
    There’s another local fella who went bang for €28m. He was a flash Harry who borrowed up to his bollocks to lead a life that was completely alien to him. He went to the wall, declared himself bankrupt and disappeared to the UK for a couple of years. He came back and started a business again and around town was viewed as some sort of hero for some strange reason. No mention of the umpteen local lads that he completely screwed over or the lies he told to get into the position of power that he did.

    The builder who went belly up but had the decency to look after people is viewed as a loser while this guy is seen by some sort of hero.
    Anyone who screws local ppl are just utter *****,no excuse


  • #49
    Stihl waters
    Registered Users Posts: 715 ✭✭✭Stihl waters


    corks finest wrote: »
    Self employment in the free state is a complete bollox methinks, construction wise anyway, several of my friends worked 70/80 hours for several years but nothing to show for it except health problems,get sick and you're goosed,yeahhhhh its slightly better than it was but only slightly, myself and my mate made a complete hames of it also

    Wheres the free state?


  • #50
    corks finest
    Registered Users Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭corks finest


    Stihl waters wrote: »
    Wheres the free state?

    Same place it is since ye gave the 6 counties away


  • #51
    corks finest
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    vriesmays wrote: »
    There's a well-known theatre director in the South East who was highly respected for winning awards for his stage work. Now he's an alcoholic, diabetic with an amputated leg.

    Life is extremely hard for some poor devil's


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  • #52
    Stihl waters
    Registered Users Posts: 715 ✭✭✭Stihl waters


    corks finest wrote: »
    Same place it is since ye gave the 6 counties away

    Not a bad move by the looks of things recently


  • #53
    corks finest
    Registered Users Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭corks finest


    Stihl waters wrote: »
    Not a bad move by the looks of things recently

    Think so?


  • #54
    Mad_maxx
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    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    ...and us college educated ones need to get over ourselves with our superiority complexes, yup the trades is tough, very very tough, but extremely important that people do it, you can be damn sure many folks learned far more on a site than any classroom. we need to learn to respect these kind of workers, theyre just as important than us classroom folks, and some can and do become very wealthy for their efforts, and best of luck to them, classrooms arent for all

    Ireland is unusual in that we dont have a whole lot of respect for those who earn a living using their hands .


  • #55
    Stihl waters
    Registered Users Posts: 715 ✭✭✭Stihl waters


    corks finest wrote: »
    Think so?

    Definitely, 26 counties is plenty


  • #56
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,765 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    Ireland is unusual in that we dont have a whole lot of respect for those who earn a living using their hands .

    ireland needs to take its head out of its hole, without these folks, our economy and society would be screwed


  • #57
    Mad_maxx
    Registered Users Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Motivator wrote: »
    There’s another local fella who went bang for €28m. He was a flash Harry who borrowed up to his bollocks to lead a life that was completely alien to him. He went to the wall, declared himself bankrupt and disappeared to the UK for a couple of years. He came back and started a business again and around town was viewed as some sort of hero for some strange reason. No mention of the umpteen local lads that he completely screwed over or the lies he told to get into the position of power that he did.

    The builder who went belly up but had the decency to look after people is viewed as a loser while this guy is seen by some sort of hero.

    if one is locally popular they can get away with anything , being from a popular family adds to it too , place i grew up , a guy literally killed another fella ( not deliberately but a punch up after a days drinking ) , never did his popularity a bit of harm , guy has no shame anyway but those kind of brass necked clients just see everything wash off them


  • #58
    pgj2015
    Registered Users Posts: 8,825 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    corks finest wrote: »
    Self employment in the free state is a complete bollox methinks, construction wise anyway, several of my friends worked 70/80 hours for several years but nothing to show for it except health problems,get sick and you're goosed,yeahhhhh its slightly better than it was but only slightly, myself and my mate made a complete hames of it also



    its all about perspective. working for an a$$hole boss or similar colleagues for years could leave you in bad health as well. I am self employed and have never been as happy.


  • #59
    hurikane
    Registered Users Posts: 688 ✭✭✭hurikane


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    these folks
    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    these kind of workers

    Christ your virtue signalling makes them sound like a different species :D


  • #60
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,765 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    hurikane wrote: »
    Christ your virtue signalling makes them sound like a different species :D

    ah no, im the different one, theyre just the vital ones


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  • #61
    corks finest
    Registered Users Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭corks finest


    Stihl waters wrote: »
    Definitely, 26 counties is plenty

    For millennials maybe,but any honest proud irish person wants a United ireland,be it now or the near future


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