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Cheltenham 2021 Antepost

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  • #32
    akelly02
    Registered Users Posts: 3,133 ✭✭✭akelly02


    akelly02 wrote: »
    Doing a €50 treble this week and it will be only antepost bet .

    Shishkin arkle 3/1
    Epatante champion hurdle 7/2
    Altior champion chase 8/1

    Returns over 8 grand


    Bet done .

    Confident!


  • #33
    stretchaq
    Registered Users Posts: 567 ✭✭✭stretchaq


    Klassical dream @33 champion (but crazy maybe just putting a line through last year)
    Lost in translation @ 12
    Indefatigable @ 25 mares
    Appreciate it 14 Neptune
    Shewearsitwell 6s


  • #34
    RivetingRoger
    Registered Users Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭RivetingRoger


    Now the dust has settled on Down Royal, I have gone back in for Abacadabras @ 8s
    Evidently, a lot of Gordon's needed the run. None more so than this lad.
    I don't think anyone here would have Storyteller in the GC, plenty might have Delta or Percy tho etc
    My faith has been mildly restored


  • #35
    hawaii501
    Registered Users Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭hawaii501


    Percy is done at the top, if he ever even reached the top?

    Wasting your money on abacadabras also as Goshen is going to hose up here. Forget the triumph record in CH as Epatante is an average horse at best IMO and she's the one to beat. Can't believe the 8s available after a couple of flat performances albeit poor. Its a gift from the racing gods :)


  • #36
    Dr. Bre
    Registered Users Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    hawaii501 wrote: »
    Percy is done at the top, if he ever even reached the top?

    Wasting your money on abacadabras also as Goshen is going to hose up here. Forget the triumph record in CH as Epatante is an average horse at best IMO and she's the one to beat. Can't believe the 8s available after a couple of flat performances albeit poor. Its a gift from the racing gods :)

    As long as Jamie Moore is not riding goshen!


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  • #37
    RivetingRoger
    Registered Users Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭RivetingRoger


    hawaii501 wrote: »
    Percy is done at the top, if he ever even reached the top?

    Wasting your money on abacadabras also as Goshen is going to hose up here. Forget the triumph record in CH as Epatante is an average horse at best IMO and she's the one to beat. Can't believe the 8s available after a couple of flat performances albeit poor. Its a gift from the racing gods :)

    Absolute nonsense ré Epatante
    Quality horse


  • #38
    hawaii501
    Registered Users Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭hawaii501


    Yeah true actually, saying she's average is being very harsh on her as she is quality, mqybe I am still bitter over the mares novice from previous year :)
    I should have said it was an average enough champ hurdle but as they say 'you can only beat whats in front of you'


  • #39
    akelly02
    Registered Users Posts: 3,133 ✭✭✭akelly02


    who beats altior in the champion chase


    very happy with my 8/1

    after he wins the tingle creek he will be 3/1 at best


  • #40
    Slattsy
    Registered Users Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    akelly02 wrote: »
    who beats altior in the champion chase


    very happy with my 8/1

    after he wins the tingle creek he will be 3/1 at best

    I'm with you. Was i the only person who put altior in my 10 to follow? :)

    When is the TC?


  • #41
    akelly02
    Registered Users Posts: 3,133 ✭✭✭akelly02


    Slattsy wrote: »
    I'm with you. Was i the only person who put altior in my 10 to follow? :)

    When is the TC?



    usually its first week in december .


    forgot to do the TTF actually

    he defo would have been in it


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  • #42
    The Mig
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 2,034 Mod ✭✭✭✭The Mig


    5th December is Tingle Creek


  • #43
    madmoose
    Registered Users Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭madmoose


    Easy work declared Sunday in a beginners chase over 2miles vs Embitted and Dlauro. I have Easywork backed ew any race 16/1 but it’s to gonna be easy in any Cheltenham novices chase with shishkin envoi and a tough rsa field for each division but he ran well staying on again behind envoi in the Ballymore


  • #44
    AnniePowwa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 125 ✭✭AnniePowwa


    the champion chase is between chacun pour soi if he can stay fit and the aging altior nothing around comes close to these two over 2 miles


  • #45
    lemush
    Registered Users Posts: 680 ✭✭✭lemush


    Goshen would be lapped in a champion hurdle.


  • #46
    IAMAMORON
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    I have had a fiver on Carefully Selected for the Gold Cup, around 90-100 on bet fair.

    I also had a fiver on Mount Leinster for the Arkle, I think he a savage nag.


  • #47
    zpehtsfd
    Registered Users Posts: 627 ✭✭✭zpehtsfd


    First AP bet on Fury Road @ 16/1 for the Stayers. Horses placed in the AB have an excellent record in this race the following year. The race itself looks very open. Trip too short tomorrow but likely chance the bookies will cut him if he wins. GL


  • #48
    RivetingRoger
    Registered Users Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭RivetingRoger


    Tiger Roll no longer in the betting for X Country


  • #49
    john mayo 10
    Registered Users Posts: 955 ✭✭✭john mayo 10


    2 antipost bets done

    Ballyadam supreme
    Epatante. Champion hurdle
    Shiskin. Arkle
    Ew accum

    Chacun champion chase
    Santini gold cup
    Thyme Hill stayers
    Ew accum


  • #50
    Plasandrunt
    Registered Users Posts: 858 ✭✭✭Plasandrunt


    Few roll ups added the last few weeks.

    Allmankind - warwick (won),Sceau Royal - Wincanton (won), Galvin - NHC and Envoi Allen - Marsh

    Lostintranslation - Betfair Chase/ Allaho - Ryanair

    Altior - Tingle Creek/ Santini - Gold Cup

    Also added N'Golo @33s for the Supreme and Klassical Dream @ 16s for the Arkle


  • #51
    Slattsy
    Registered Users Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    Does anyone have any strong opinions on the Ryanair?

    I was on Allaho last year for the RSA (20/1 ap and he went off 5/2) oh what bet that would have been.. :mad:

    After the race i thought they'd definitely bring him back in distance; he tanked through the race, did too much and just didnt last home.

    He's a best price 10/1 and again i can see him going off a lot shorter on the day if he does indeed go this route. I suppose the risk is they try him back over further but i cant see it.


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  • #52
    madmoose
    Registered Users Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭madmoose


    Slattsy wrote: »
    Does anyone have any strong opinions on the Ryanair?

    I was on Allaho last year for the RSA (20/1 ap and he went off 5/2) oh what bet that would have been.. :mad:

    After the race i thought they'd definitely bring him back in distance; he tanked through the race, did too much and just didnt last home.

    He's a best price 10/1 and again i can see him going off a lot shorter on the day if he does indeed go this route. I suppose the risk is they try him back over further but i cant see it.

    Needs to be Ryanair for me also, Willie recently said he is warming to the back in trip idea so thats the plan i think. He has Min, Allaho and Melon as options for that for separate owners.


  • #53
    RivetingRoger
    Registered Users Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭RivetingRoger


    The Ryanair has surpassed the Stayers for me as the main race on the Thursday
    Allaho and Faugheen are my AP bets but I will be very interested to see what plans has for Defi now. This could be his ideal trip, if they sort him out.
    You also have to seriously consider Cyrname, Frodon, Champ and maybe even Samcro again
    And of course Min, but until we see him out its hard to know what way the year will go for him. At the moment, I am on Allaho with a sentimental bet on Faugheen


  • #54
    Slattsy
    Registered Users Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    General question; my guess is a lot of trainers will want to avoid Envoi Allen in the Marsh. So, what price is EV likely to go off on the day if he make it there fit and well?

    I'll say 4/6 :eek:


  • #55
    supremenovice
    Registered Users Posts: 976 ✭✭✭supremenovice


    RivetingRoger wrote: »
    The Ryanair has surpassed the Stayers for me as the main race on the Thursday
    Allaho and Faugheen are my AP bets but I will be very interested to see what plans has for Defi now. This could be his ideal trip, if they sort him out.
    You also have to seriously consider Cyrname, Frodon, Champ and maybe even Samcro again
    And of course Min, but until we see him out its hard to know what way the year will go for him. At the moment, I am on Allaho with a sentimental bet on Faugheen

    Paul Nicholls mentioned the Gold Cup for Cyrname in his stable tour yesterday, as unbelievable as that sounds.
    Henderson said Champ for the Gold Cup also.


  • #56
    RivetingRoger
    Registered Users Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭RivetingRoger


    supremenovice wrote: »
    Paul Nicholls mentioned the Gold Cup for Cyrname in his stable tour yesterday, as unbelievable as that sounds.
    Henderson said Champ for the Gold Cup also.

    Willie said Vautour was running in the GC the bollix!!


  • #57
    IAMAMORON
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    Stable tours are garbage. Most of what is said is to appease owners. It's purpose in life is to sell advertising on the day of the publication and boost sales at certain times of the year for the Racing Post.

    Owners are all big egos and the last thing they want to be reading is that their 50 k investment for the year is not capable of winning a Gold Cup.

    Cyrname will not be winning a Gold Cup. I said it first. He won't even beat Frodon up the hill.


  • #58
    Pogue eile
    Registered Users Posts: 2,862 ✭✭✭Pogue eile


    Slattsy wrote: »
    Does anyone have any strong opinions on the Ryanair?

    I was on Allaho last year for the RSA (20/1 ap and he went off 5/2) oh what bet that would have been.. :mad:

    After the race i thought they'd definitely bring him back in distance; he tanked through the race, did too much and just didnt last home.

    He's a best price 10/1 and again i can see him going off a lot shorter on the day if he does indeed go this route. I suppose the risk is they try him back over further but i cant see it.

    For me its the least attractive of all races from an AP perspective with so much doubt about practically every horse in the betting and where they might actually run. Gun to my head I would probably go with Min, simply because he is the most likely of those at the head of the market to run and he is a pretty solid e/w poke.

    You would imagine that one of the Nicholls horses has to end up here if they all get to the festival, again if I was to bet which one I would suggest Frodon but like everything else with the Ryanair, pure guesswork and thats why its a NRNB race for me.


  • #59
    Coneygree
    Registered Users Posts: 821 ✭✭✭Coneygree


    Really like Allaho for this but I also have Defi who I'm willing to give one more go.

    Clan Des Obeaux is one I'll keep my eye on although his price is horrible. After last year they said he'd never go to Cheltenham again but I think they meant that for the Gold Cup rather than any other race. If he does poorly in the King George it may be option, especially if Cyrname does very well.

    I love Samcro and stood with him last year and he made me very happy in the Marsh but it is impossible to back at current price. Battleoverdoyen knocked me for 6 seeing some pace out of him that day in Down Royal. He's such a frustrating horse, he looks a boat most of the time but every now and again he shows a good turn of foot.

    However are we all just over thinking it by not going for Min? I'd have fears they might revert him to the CC one last time if Chacun doesn't hold out the season. He has his Cheltenham win, and the CC has alluded Ricci, he'll be desperate if Chacun gets injured.


  • #60
    Slattsy
    Registered Users Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    I see Monkfish has shortened for the RSA. Did I miss something? Maybe it was Latest Exhibition losing the other day..


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  • #61
    Coneygree
    Registered Users Posts: 821 ✭✭✭Coneygree


    That's odd, especially seeing as The Big Breakaway came in as well.


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