Outside Noise

cmred · 09-12-2019 3:14pm #1

Hi, moved to a new property (25years old approx) and the noise from outside traffic and aircraft can be very loud in the mornings. Doesnt help that im a v light sleeper!
I have gotten a price of €900 to add one additional sliding window to be placed in front of bedroom window, but no guarantee this will work.
Does anyone have any recommendations or useful tips.
thankyou

BrokenArrows · 10-12-2019 11:34am

Do your windows close properly with no gaps around the edge?

cmred · 10-12-2019 11:58am

hi, yes they do. any suggestions greatly received

colm_mcm · 10-12-2019 12:07pm

I assume there are wall vents?

Car99 · 10-12-2019 12:25pm

Google acoustic glass Ireland, made for the job.

Then add sound board which is acoustic plasterboard to the walls and ceiling and you should have a nice quiet room.

cmred · 10-12-2019 1:03pm

yes , one. put a picture in front of it. realize this makes little or no difference but would be adverse to blocking it up

Alkers · 10-12-2019 1:20pm

HOw long are you in the property? You would be surprised how quickly you will get used to most of it.
Try earplugs

cmred · 10-12-2019 2:35pm

coming up to 2years, earplugs hep but not very well. trust me, wont get used to it. allergic to noise, sadly!

looksee · 10-12-2019 2:43pm

That sounds like a lot for one window adaptation? Of course it depends on a lot of things, not least the size and style of the window.

cmred · 10-12-2019 3:28pm

i know, but it was actually the cheapest out of 3 companies who came to see it. wouldnt mind paying it as a one off if it actually worked. no come back if it doesnt..

Stigura · 10-12-2019 8:00pm

Get what I've got: " ICHS "

s7ryf3925pivug · 10-12-2019 9:37pm

Static vents are required in rooms with combustion sources in them, like fireplaces and gas appliances. Otherwise blocking the vent would help.
The suggestion of acoustic plasterboard is good, and the equivalent glass product. You need mass to block noise and fuzz to cause it to be diffuse. My understanding is that in your case you need to block the noise.

MicktheMan · 10-12-2019 10:13pm

cmred wrote: »

Hi, moved to a new property (25years old approx) and the noise from outside traffic and aircraft can be very loud in the mornings. Doesnt help that im a v light sleeper!
I have gotten a price of €900 to add one additional sliding window to be placed in front of bedroom window, but no guarantee this will work.
Does anyone have any recommendations or useful tips.
thankyou

OP, your problem sounds like air borne sound entering the house via air leakage.
As I see it you have two choices;
1, chase your tail trying all sorts of things that "might" help a bit or
2, test the house for air tightness and then deal with each and every leakage found.
This 2nd option, I guarantee, will solve >90% of your problem if done right

cmred · 11-12-2019 10:14am

thanks so much
"Test the house for air tightness" - is this something i can do or need to get someone in?

yes the acoustic glass or placing a secondary window in front of the existing one is the other option

Calahonda52 · 11-12-2019 10:19am

Allen Easy Quark wrote: »

Static vents are required in rooms with combustion sources in them, like fireplaces and gas appliances. Otherwise blocking the vent would help.
The suggestion of acoustic plasterboard is good, and the equivalent glass product. You need mass to block noise and fuzz to cause it to be diffuse. My understanding is you need to block the noise.

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There is a bit more to it that that:
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https://www.housing.gov.ie/housing/building-standards/tgd-part-f-ventilation/technical-guidance-document-f-ventilation

punisher5112 · 11-12-2019 10:23am

Allen Easy Quark wrote: »

Static vents are required in rooms with combustion sources in them, like fireplaces and gas appliances. Otherwise blocking the vent would help.
The suggestion of acoustic plasterboard is good, and the equivalent glass product. You need mass to block noise and fuzz to cause it to be diffuse. My understanding is that in your case you need to block the noise.

Do not block the vents bit there are units you can get that open automatically when they need to and there are foam inserts to help stop the noise as I find the pipes between the vent covers created a lot of noise from the wind and can hear everything inside and out.

s7ryf3925pivug · 11-12-2019 10:27am

Calahonda52 wrote: »

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There is a bit more to it that that:
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https://www.housing.gov.ie/housing/building-standards/tgd-part-f-ventilation/technical-guidance-document-f-ventilation

Ok good to know. Can you summarise? Link is to a multipart document.

pburns · 11-12-2019 10:31am

I have an occasional problem with a noisy nighthawk neighbour. I bought a white noise machine so I just turn it on when the issue arises.

PCros · 11-12-2019 10:48am

punisher5112 wrote: »

Do not block the vents bit there are units you can get that open automatically when they need to and there are foam inserts to help stop the noise as I find the pipes between the vent covers created a lot of noise from the wind and can hear everything inside and out.

Do you have a link for the unit and foam inserts?

MicktheMan · 11-12-2019 9:37pm

cmred wrote: »

thanks so much
"Test the house for air tightness" - is this something i can do or need to get someone in?

You'll need to get someone with experience in testing and addressing the leakage paths found. Generally its part of a heat loss survey so you might get to kill two birds...

Yellow_Fern · 14-12-2019 10:03am

Are airtight dormers more prone to sound pollution than airtight non dormers?

MicktheMan · 15-12-2019 9:00pm

Yellow_Fern wrote: »

Are airtight dormers more prone to sound pollution than airtight non dormers?

If both are equally airtight then no (what level of airtightness you mean by "airtight", is it passive house level or building regulations?;))

Btw, the majority of houses with room(s) in the roof, be they dormers or no, suffer significant air leakage unless specific measures were taken when built.

cmred · 16-01-2020 11:41am

Hi again
finally getting to this and have two options which hopefully someone will be able to advise which is best. cost is little or nothing between the 2

supply and fit a white aluminium secondary window with 6.8 acoustic glass

or

improve your sound reduction by 8 decibels

thankyou

GreeBo · 16-01-2020 2:54pm

cmred wrote: »

Hi again
finally getting to this and have two options which hopefully someone will be able to advise which is best. cost is little or nothing between the 2

supply and fit a white aluminium secondary window with 6.8 acoustic glass

or

improve your sound reduction by 8 decibels

thankyou

i have secondary glazing in my house and it makes a huge difference to noise (and air movement)

however you need to be aware that secondary glazing will negate any ventilation on your primary glazing...

pjdarcy · 16-01-2020 3:08pm

A vent like this will help

https://www.bpdstore.co.uk/glidevale-fresh-100db-wall-ventilator/p/141

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