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2020 US Presidential Election (aka: The Trump Coronation)

  • 31-01-2020 3:16pm
    #1
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭


    With Nancy Pelosi’s Schiff Show Sham of an impeachment over (well, all but over, anyway) time to turn to the US presidential election.

    So, who is left:

    Donald Trump (R): You wanted change, you got change... Trump change!

    Joe Biden (D): Distracted by shiny objects!
    Bernie Sanders (I - running as a D, what's up with that?): On a scale of Mao to Stalin, how bad would a president Bernie be?
    Elizabeth Warren (D): Little Chief Gonna Spend A Lot.
    Mayor Pete Buttigieg (D): Portrait of a young bull$hit artist.
    Andrew Yang : Vote for me and I’ll give you $12,000.
    Mike Bloomberg (?): Who says you can’t buy an election?
    Tulsi Gabbard (D): I guess it’s true you never piss off the Clintons.
    Amy Klobuchar (D) and the rest of the also-rans: Who?

    And then there’s Hillary Clinton (Witch), waiting in the wings for a contested convention so her superdelegates buddies can hand her the nomination: Liar, liar, pantsuit on fire!

    Personally, when Pelosi, who had to impeach Trump immediately because he was such a threat to the nation, and then waited a month to walk the articles of impeachment in a stupid procession over to the Senate... it was like she was walking with Trump’s reelection papers.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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  • #2
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    notobtuse wrote: »
    With Nancy Pelosi’s Schiff Show Sham of an impeachment over (well, all but over, anyway) time to turn to the US presidential election.

    So, who is left:

    Donald Trump (R): You wanted change, you got change... Trump change!

    Joe Biden (D): Distracted by shiny objects!
    Bernie Sanders (I - running as a D, what's up with that?): On a scale of Mao to Stalin, how bad would a president Bernie be?
    Elizabeth Warren (D): Little Chief Gonna Spend A Lot.
    Mayor Pete Buttigieg (D): Portrait of a young bull$hit artist.
    Andrew Yang : Vote for me and I’ll give you $12,000.
    Mike Bloomberg (?): Who says you can’t buy an election?
    Tulsi Gabbard (D): I guess it’s true you never piss off the Clintons.
    Amy Klobuchar (D) and the rest of the also-rans: Who?

    And then there’s Hillary Clinton (Witch), waiting in the wings for a contested convention so her superdelegates buddies can hand her the nomination: Liar, liar, pantsuit on fire!

    Personally, when Pelosi, who had to impeach Trump immediately because he was such a threat to the nation, and then waited a month to walk the articles of impeachment in a stupid procession over to the Senate... it was like she was walking with Trump’s reelection papers.

    He'll likely get back in. I weep for your country.


  • #3
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    He'll likely get back in. I weep for your country.
    Tears of joy?

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • #4
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    An indication why Trump will win, well, to me anyway. Trump spoke at a rally in Wildwood, New Jersey this week. The venue holds 7,400 people, but there were 158,632 requests for tickets to the event. New Jersey is a Democrat stronghold and always considered a safe Democratic bet. The most surprising news in all this is of 73,482 identifiable voters who requested tickets, 10.4% didn't vote in 2016, and 26.3% were self-described Democrats.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • #5
    Ulysses Gaze
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    Sanders is no different than most centre-left politicians in Europe. The fact that people in the States think he is a Marxist both amuses me and scares me at the same time!

    Trump will win, but it will be close.


  • #6
    super_furry
    Registered Users Posts: 27,319 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Ulysses Gaze wrote: »
    Sanders is no different than most centre-left politicians in Europe. The fact that people in the States think he is a Marxist both amuses me and scares me at the same time!

    Trump will win, but it will be close.

    It's mad. Sanders is right of Leo Varadkar and people act like he's the reincarnation of Trotsky.


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  • #7
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    super_furry wrote: »
    It's mad. Sanders is right of Leo Varadkar and people act like he's the reincarnation of Trotsky.
    Socialism is currently trending in the US among young people because some politicians are promising free health care for all, free college tuition, something called climate justice, and a basic income for everyone - including all those unwilling to work (even though they have no viable way to pay for it all). Although the US does embrace some socialistic programs, the US is too diverse and our past and successes are the indication why greater socialism won’t work. Capitalism has done more to lift the world out of poverty than any other economic system ever devised, and that is evident by what the US has become in less than 250 years. Our economic freedom correlates to our greater individual freedom, better health, more educational options, and yes… a cleaner environment.

    Take the socialistic Great Society programs started in the 60’s. Rather than lift millions out of poverty, our welfare system has trapped millions in poverty and has created generations of people dependent on the government. Everyone here feels temporary safety nets are fine. But when we let people keep more of their own money by cutting individual taxes, letting businesses grow by cutting burdensome regulations and taxes, it paves the way for a growing economy, new jobs, increased wages, and more affordable health care for families.

    One of the biggest concerns we currently have is our education system has been hijacked by liberals with socialistic tendencies. They teach the younger generation that free markets are tools of exploitation, run by greedy conservatives who place profits above all else. And the something-for-nothing socialists empty rhetoric has a strong appeal amongst the young and gullible.

    One of the most important goals of conservatives in the US is to become more involved in the education system, but are currently being shut out. It is a war worth fighting for and needs to be undertaken with ferocity.

    Because today’s democratic party has been overtaken by the radical left who sponsors socialism Trump will probably win by huge numbers. What plays in liberal urban coastal cities does not work for middle America. Sanders and Warren ideals are good representations of what won't work here.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • #8
    super_furry
    Registered Users Posts: 27,319 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Did you even read the replies to you?


  • #9
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    super_furry wrote: »
    Did you even read the replies to you?
    Sure... A lot of them are juvenile.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • #10
    MeMen2_MoRi_
    Registered Users Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    Ok boomer lol


  • #11
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »
    Ok boomer lol
    LOL. Time to venture out of your bunker? :p

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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  • #12
    SaintLeibowitz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 163 ✭✭SaintLeibowitz


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Socialism is currently trending in the US among young people because some politicians are promising free health care for all, free college tuition, something called climate justice, and a basic income for everyone - including all those unwilling to work (even though they have no viable way to pay for it all). Although the US does embrace some socialistic programs, the US is too diverse and our past and successes are the indication why greater socialism won’t work. Capitalism has done more to lift the world out of poverty than any other economic system ever devised, and that is evident by what the US has become in less than 250 years. Our economic freedom correlates to our greater individual freedom, better health, more educational options, and yes… a cleaner environment.

    Take the socialistic Great Society programs started in the 60’s. Rather than lift millions out of poverty, our welfare system has trapped millions in poverty and has created generations of people dependent on the government. Everyone here feels temporary safety nets are fine. But when we let people keep more of their own money by cutting individual taxes, letting businesses grow by cutting burdensome regulations and taxes, it paves the way for a growing economy, new jobs, increased wages, and more affordable health care for families.

    One of the biggest concerns we currently have is our education system has been hijacked by liberals with socialistic tendencies. They teach the younger generation that free markets are tools of exploitation, run by greedy conservatives who place profits above all else. And the something-for-nothing socialists empty rhetoric has a strong appeal amongst the young and gullible.

    One of the most important goals of conservatives in the US is to become more involved in the education system, but are currently being shut out. It is a war worth fighting for and needs to be undertaken with ferocity.

    Because today’s democratic party has been overtaken by the radical left who sponsors socialism Trump will probably win by huge numbers. What plays in liberal urban coastal cities does not work for middle America. Sanders and Warren ideals are good representations of what won't work here.

    Bernie 'radical left' hahhaahah.


  • #13
    MeMen2_MoRi_
    Registered Users Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    notobtuse wrote: »
    LOL. Time to venture out of your bunker? :p

    I was thinking more, pot meet kettle.


  • #14
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    SaintLeibowitz wrote: »
    Bernie 'radical left' hahhaahah.
    Buy European standards... NO. By US standards... YES.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • #15
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »
    I was thinking more, pot meet kettle.
    I walk the walk. I donate to some politicians I endorse (directly, not the party or PAC’s) and campaign for some (but rarely), my oldest daughter is a politician and I beat the path and campaign for her, I am sending my youngest to the most politically active university in the US located in Washington, DC as she wishes to become a lawyer, then judge, then federal politician... and I vote in every election.

    You?

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • #16
    Hello 2D Person Below
    Registered Users Posts: 13,755 ✭✭✭✭Hello 2D Person Below


    super_furry wrote: »
    It's mad. Sanders is right of Leo Varadkar and people act like he's the reincarnation of Trotsky.

    You've gone too far in the other direction.


  • #17
    MeMen2_MoRi_
    Registered Users Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    notobtuse wrote: »
    I walk the walk. I donate to some politicians I endorse (directly, not the party or PAC’s) and campaign for some (but rarely), my oldest daughter is a politician and I beat the path and campaign for her, I am sending my youngest to the most politically active university in the US located in Washington, DC as she wishes to become a lawyer, then judge, then federal politician... and I vote in every election.

    You?

    Haha. my first and second response was injest at you calling people's posts here juvenile, yet in a response to others from yourself on another thread you replied "ok boomers"..
    But thanks for whatever the above is suppose to prove, other then you're completely blinded by the crap you sunk yourself into.
    Tell kettle I said hello when you meet.


  • #18
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »
    Haha. my first and second response was injest at you calling people's posts here juvenile, yet in a response to others from yourself on another thread you replied "ok boomers"..
    But thanks for whatever the above is suppose to prove, other then you're completely blinded by the crap you sunk yourself into.
    Tell kettle I said hello when you meet.
    Will do... I have a kettle drum I occasionally play. ;)

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • #19
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    So Elizabeth Warren just pledged that she will not hire a Secretary of Education until a young trans person she met interviews the candidate and approves of him/her. So she wants a key member of her cabinet chosen by a transgender child? And she wonders why she keeps slipping in the poles?

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • #20
    Gynoid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    notobtuse wrote: »
    So Elizabeth Warren just pledged that she will not hire a Secretary of Education until a young trans person she met interviews the candidate and approves of him/her. So she wants a key member of her cabinet chosen by a transgender child? And she wonders why she keeps slipping in the poles?

    Elizabeth Warren is very unlikable. Not as unlikable as Hillary Clinton is but that would be extremely difficult. I can hardly bear to catch sight of Hillary Clinton, let alone hear her speak - she is so smug and arrogant. How so many women voters adore her is beyond me.
    The only candidate I like is Tulsi Gabbard. I like her a hell of a lot. Trump will probably win again. I don't mind. As dreadfully gauche and cringy as he is, he has done as much good and as much bad as any previous incumbent.
    He is not the monster he is portrayed as, he is just completely uncool and vain. He cannot hide it, like others do. The non stop hysteria in the media that has accompanied this presidency has been surreal and infantile and has weakened the long term reputation of many a media body. The hysteria among ordinary people about Trump is also quite something to behold. It seems very neurotic.


  • #21
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Gynoid wrote: »
    Elizabeth Warren is very unlikable. Not as unlikable as Hillary Clinton is but that would be extremely difficult. I can hardly bear to catch sight of Hillary Clinton, let alone hear her speak - she is so smug and arrogant. How so many women voters adore her is beyond me.
    The only candidate I like is Tulsi Gabbard. I like her a hell of a lot. Trump will probably win again. I don't mind. As dreadfully gauche and cringy as he is, he has done as much good and as much bad as any previous incumbent.
    He is not the monster he is portrayed as, he is just completely uncool and vain. He cannot hide it, like others do. The non stop hysteria in the media that has accompanied this presidency has been surreal and infantile and has weakened the long term reputation of many a media body. The hysteria among ordinary people about Trump is also quite something to behold. It seems very neurotic.
    I admit he does say some crazy $hit. But you also have to admit he does some great things for the betterment of the US people. After he wins reelection I can see him offering Tulsi Gabbard a nice position in his administration.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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  • #22
    Gynoid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    notobtuse wrote: »
    I admit he does say some crazy $hit. But you also have to admit he does some great things for the betterment of the US people. After he wins reelection I can see him offering Tulsi Gabbard a nice position in his administration.

    I don't know whether she would accept it or not. But it would be great if she did. She is a sound lady.


  • #23
    Hello 2D Person Below
    Registered Users Posts: 13,755 ✭✭✭✭Hello 2D Person Below


    Gabbard cannot abide Trump.

    She'll be part of Bernie's administration. Hopefully Defence Secretary.


  • #24
    Gynoid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    Hello 2D Person Below wrote: »
    Gabbard cannot abide Trump.

    She'll be part of Bernie's administration. Hopefully Defence Secretary.

    I remember a good while ago when Joe Rogan first interviewed Gabbard, before she announced a run, and he said what about you and Bernie running a campaign, you as VP and then you as President next time round. I thought that was a great suggestion. Did not go that way though.


  • #25
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Hello 2D Person Below wrote: »
    Gabbard cannot abide Trump.

    She'll be part of Bernie's administration. Hopefully Defence Secretary.
    I thought he planned on gutting the military and replacing the soldiers with his internet army of Bernie Bros?

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • #26
    Silentcorner
    Registered Users Posts: 6,162 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Gynoid wrote: »
    Elizabeth Warren is very unlikable. Not as unlikable as Hillary Clinton is but that would be extremely difficult. I can hardly bear to catch sight of Hillary Clinton, let alone hear her speak - she is so smug and arrogant. How so many women voters adore her is beyond me.
    The only candidate I like is Tulsi Gabbard. I like her a hell of a lot. Trump will probably win again. I don't mind. As dreadfully gauche and cringy as he is, he has done as much good and as much bad as any previous incumbent.
    He is not the monster he is portrayed as, he is just completely uncool and vain. He cannot hide it, like others do. The non stop hysteria in the media that has accompanied this presidency has been surreal and infantile and has weakened the long term reputation of many a media body. The hysteria among ordinary people about Trump is also quite something to behold. It seems very neurotic.

    We live in the age of hysteria....it's everywhere, including all over media which is why you really have to watch what you consume.

    There are women who believe they are existing/surviving some kind of tyranny. (there are but not in the West)

    There are people who believe the world is going to end.

    There are people who believe the earth is flat.

    There are people who believe people who voted for Trump are facists...but the average conservative voter in the US is the complete opposite of a facist....they believe in as little state interference in their lives as is humanly possible!! Patriots yes, facists, no.


  • #27
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Warren supporters have a plan.


    https://twitter.com/GoneBright/status/1223393947663380482


  • #28
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Biden's a charlatan.


    https://twitter.com/TheScoop_US/status/1223281691621355520


  • #29
    Boggles
    Registered Users Posts: 39,489 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Of course Trump will win in 2020, the GOP Senate just gave him full permission to cheat anyway he chooses.

    It is amazing but not surprising the millions of dribblers in that country that are celebrating that fact and proudly call themselves Republicans.


  • #30
    Boggles
    Registered Users Posts: 39,489 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Biden's a charlatan.

    All False statements involving Donald Trump


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  • #31
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    I was talking about Joe Biden. How's it what Trump does a defense of that?

    'But Trump, but Trump..' is not an argument and referring to over 60 million people as "dribblers" is not a good look.


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