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Eir rural FTTH thread II

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  • #62
    ED E
    Registered Users Posts: 36,164 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    For Eir at least IPTV and "internet" are both on 10 so it doesn't provide a QOS function. The CPE does that itself. SIP could be tagged uniquely but I haven't seen any signs of that.

    The resource allocation by the OLT is per the GPON spec and nothing to do with 11q/other.


  • #63
    Dev84
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 739 ✭✭✭Dev84


    Marlow wrote: »
    The reason, they use Vlan tagging (and this applies both to VDSL/FTTC, FTTH on OpenEIR and FTTH on SIRO), is that you can have dedicated VLans for other services like VoIP and TV.

    When the provider takes the option for the additonal Vlan for VoIP for example, then the VoIP Vlans isn't throttled to package speed and works, even when the internet connection is fully loaded.

    If the provider chooses to run VoIP in-band, then it's considered best effort.

    That's the reason for Vlan tagging on modern broadband circuits.

    /M

    Yes on the providers side. Not domestically though.


  • #64
    digiman
    Registered Users Posts: 4,198 ✭✭✭digiman


    Marlow wrote: »
    The reason, they use Vlan tagging (and this applies both to VDSL/FTTC, FTTH on OpenEIR and FTTH on SIRO), is that you can have dedicated VLans for other services like VoIP and TV.

    When the provider takes the option for the additonal Vlan for VoIP for example, then the VoIP Vlans isn't throttled to package speed and works, even when the internet connection is fully loaded.

    If the provider chooses to run VoIP in-band, then it's considered best effort.

    That's the reason for Vlan tagging on modern broadband circuits.

    /M

    That’s not true actually, for residential services all types of traffic (internet, VOIP, IPTV) come in on VLAN 10. The QoS is based on the class of service bits within the vlan header and there are multiple ways the OLT can manage that which I won’t go into the detail here.

    In basic terms there are 3 class of service, 0,2 & 4 which carry internet, iptv and voip respectively. Each one can have a committed and peak rate and traffic can pass or drop depending on the specific QoS detail. There are multiple ways to handle that though and a few references available online on how it can be done.


  • #65
    garroff
    Registered Users Posts: 518 ✭✭✭garroff


    digiman wrote: »
    That’s not true actually, for residential services all types of traffic (internet, VOIP, IPTV) come in on VLAN 10. The QoS is based on the class of service bits within the vlan header and there are multiple ways the OLT can manage that which I won’t go into the detail here.

    In basic terms there are 3 class of service, 0,2 & 4 which carry internet, iptv and voip respectively. Each one can have a committed and peak rate and traffic can pass or drop depending on the specific QoS detail. There are multiple ways to handle that though and a few references available online on how it can be done.
    Is there a moderator reading this?


  • #66
    digiman
    Registered Users Posts: 4,198 ✭✭✭digiman


    dollylama wrote: »
    This is interesting

    Does this mean the "throttle" is set within the ONT on the wall... as in 2.5 Gbps is always available operator end of the ONT but the ONT restricts the user end (on the Internet vlan) to 150, 300 or whatever Mbps?

    As someone else said it is restricted on the OLT at the exchange.


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  • #67
    digiman
    Registered Users Posts: 4,198 ✭✭✭digiman


    garroff wrote: »
    Is there a moderator reading this?

    What do you mean?


  • #68
    ED E
    Registered Users Posts: 36,164 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    garroff wrote: »
    Is there a moderator reading this?

    No moderation in BB/Nets for the guts of a year. CMods were informed (If you're reading you had your responsible disclosure time).


  • #69
    Leslie Kind Unicorn
    Posts: 0 ✭ Leslie Kind Unicorn


    garroff wrote: »
    Is there a moderator reading this?
    If you have any issues with a post, then please report the post and a moderator will investigate it.
    press the report.gif icon under the poster's name to report the post.


  • #70
    Dominique Loud Waistband
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭ Dominique Loud Waistband


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    If you have any issues with a post, then please report the post and a moderator will investigate it.
    press the https://b-static.net/vbulletin/images/custom/beta2/buttons/report.gif icon to report the post.

    I fail to see any issue with the post though. digiman knows his stuff in this area.


  • #71
    Leslie Kind Unicorn
    Posts: 0 ✭ Leslie Kind Unicorn


    Dominique Loud Waistband wrote: »
    I fail to see any issue with the post though. digiman knows his stuff in this area.
    True, I don't see any issues either.
    Just wondering why the poster queried moderation.


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  • #72
    Dominique Loud Waistband
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭ Dominique Loud Waistband


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    True, I don't see any issues either.
    Just wondering why the poster queried moderation.

    Perhaps we're both misinterpreting the post.


  • #73
    ED E
    Registered Users Posts: 36,164 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Deleted User wrote: »
    If you have any issues with a post, then please report the post and a moderator will investigate it.
    press the report.gif icon under the poster's name to report the post.

    Thats the idea anyways...


  • #74
    jaydev
    Registered Users Posts: 42 ✭jaydev


    Can anybody on here confirm which company is in control of installing fibre splice boxes on the fibre trunk from the cabinet?
    My house has been skipped and houses further away are up and running with FTTH on the same trunk, but mine is not available (on the system) presumably because I have no splice box (hence no DP number) near enough to allow the KN guys to install. The pole with the first splice-box in the run is 5 poles past my house.

    I can't find any information about how to escalate this - anybody have a clue or can PM me that would be awesome.

    Cheers, Jay


  • #75
    shigllgetcha
    Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭shigllgetcha


    If youre on efibre you probably wont get ftth is your house on fibrerollout.ie?

    If not, youre screwed


  • #76
    jaydev
    Registered Users Posts: 42 ✭jaydev


    shigllgetcha wrote: »
    If youre on efibre you probably wont get ftth is your house on fibrerollout.ie?

    If not, youre screwed


    Yes I'm there on fibrerollout.ie - it's just that the splice box hasn't been installed - seems like they either completely forgot, intentionally ignored the 18/19 or so houses right across the road from the cabinet or there's been another miscommunication.

    The folks 5 poles down (further from the cabinet on same road) have it installed.


  • #77
    Grab All Association
    Registered Users Posts: 3,918 ✭✭✭Grab All Association


    KN in Borrisoleigh running fibre through the ducts.


  • #78
    jgbyr
    Registered Users Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭jgbyr


    jaydev wrote: »
    Can anybody on here confirm which company is in control of installing fibre splice boxes on the fibre trunk from the cabinet?
    My house has been skipped and houses further away are up and running with FTTH on the same trunk, but mine is not available (on the system) presumably because I have no splice box (hence no DP number) near enough to allow the KN guys to install. The pole with the first splice-box in the run is 5 poles past my house.

    I can't find any information about how to escalate this - anybody have a clue or can PM me that would be awesome.

    Cheers, Jay

    Don't know if this is any help but maybe contact Openeir & explain what's happening. Here's an email address
    fibrepower@openeir.ie


  • #79
    banjopeter
    Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭banjopeter


    After 5 years DCCAE have released a redacted version of the NBP Mk I.
    It was a 100% wireless solution. (From Ireland Offline) See it here as PDF:
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/odq70hq6m3tqflu/REDACTED_Analysys%20Mason%20report%20for%20DCENR%20-%20NGB%20options%20analysis%20%28updated%29%20copy.pdf?dl=0


  • #80
    cnocbui
    Registered Users Posts: 19,674 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    jaydev wrote: »
    Yes I'm there on fibrerollout.ie - it's just that the splice box hasn't been installed - seems like they either completely forgot, intentionally ignored the 18/19 or so houses right across the road from the cabinet or there's been another miscommunication.

    The folks 5 poles down (further from the cabinet on same road) have it installed.

    A green fibre cabinet?


  • #81
    Gooser14
    Registered Users Posts: 1,551 ✭✭✭Gooser14


    Gooser14 wrote: »
    I have noticed contractors clearing ducting on the road out of Newport (Tipperary) towards Rockvale Cemetery & Ahane Cross in preperation for laying Eir fibre. The roll out map shows it is scheduled to go live in the area by mid 2018.

    Tree trimming carried out today between Ahane Cross and Castlewaller/Cully.


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  • #82
    The Cush
    Registered Users Posts: 15,477 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Gooser14 wrote: »
    Tree trimming carried out today between Ahane Cross and Castlewaller/Cully.

    Saw them last week on the road to Rearcross.


  • #83
    cnocbui
    Registered Users Posts: 19,674 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    jaydev wrote: »
    Yes I'm there on fibrerollout.ie - it's just that the splice box hasn't been installed - seems like they either completely forgot, intentionally ignored the 18/19 or so houses right across the road from the cabinet or there's been another miscommunication.

    The folks 5 poles down (further from the cabinet on same road) have it installed.

    A green fibre cabinet?


  • #84
    dollylama
    Registered Users Posts: 284 ✭✭dollylama


    banjopeter wrote: »
    After 5 years DCCAE have released a redacted version of the NBP Mk I.
    It was a 100% wireless solution. (From Ireland Offline) See it here as PDF:
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/odq70hq6m3tqflu/REDACTED_Analysys%20Mason%20report%20for%20DCENR%20-%20NGB%20options%20analysis%20%28updated%29%20copy.pdf?dl=0

    Christ... Analysys Mason. The same Analysys Mason who presided over the NBS back in the day

    What's with our fetish for handing state contracts to shyster consultancy / outsourcing firms from the UK


  • #85
    Dr. Nick
    Registered Users Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭Dr. Nick


    Only getting to mess around this now. Getting 92mbps plugged in on a 300 package, would my laptop be restricting the speed?


  • #86
    fritzelly
    Registered Users Posts: 17,243 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Dr. Nick wrote: »
    Only getting to mess around this now. Getting 92mbps plugged in on a 300 package, would my laptop be restricting the speed?

    Possibly - whats the model?


  • #87
    Dr. Nick
    Registered Users Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭Dr. Nick


    HP PAVILION i5 2.6ghz 8gb
    Windows 10


  • #88
    fritzelly
    Registered Users Posts: 17,243 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Dr. Nick wrote: »
    HP PAVILION i5 2.6ghz 8gb
    Windows 10

    Model number? From what I can find in that broad range of laptops its only 10/100


  • #89
    Dr. Nick
    Registered Users Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭Dr. Nick


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Model number? From what I can find in that broad range of laptops its only 10/100

    15 P189sa


  • #90
    Dominique Loud Waistband
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭ Dominique Loud Waistband


    Dr. Nick wrote: »
    15 P189sa

    Sounds very like 100Mb network card but to be sure, click the bottom left Start button on desktop, type device manager in the search box and tap Device Manager on the menu. Expand network adapters and post the model of network card you have.


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  • #91
    fritzelly
    Registered Users Posts: 17,243 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Dr. Nick wrote: »
    15 P189sa

    Yep, 10/100

    https://support.hp.com/ie-en/document/c04498075


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