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17-08-2020, 20:45   #1
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What will be checked when I take my 1989 mini 30 for nct?

What will be checked when I take my 1989 mini 30 for nct?

Will it need a rear fog light?

Does it need clips/mechanism to hold the front seats in place when in the down position? Has rally seats in the front at present without any.

What about emissions?

Will intermediate tyres pass the test?

Anything else to watch out for?
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17-08-2020, 21:10   #2
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It will be checked to see if its roadworthy and safe.

You must assume that un fixed rally seats will raise eyebrows,
as well as tyres that were not standard for the car.

Emissions I believe will be based on the manufacturers spec for the year.

If a foglight was original spec, I expect they will want to see it working
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NCT MANUAL PDF V4
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Once the seats are using proper seat rails, they should pass. If the tyres are rated for road use, they shouldn't be an issue either. A big thing they look for in older cars is corrosion
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Once the seats are using proper seat rails, they should pass. If the tyres are rated for road use, they shouldn't be an issue either. A big thing they look for in older cars is corrosion
OP says the front seats dont have hold down clips.
If the seats tip forward, surely thats an issue??
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Page 23 section 7, tipping seats not secured are a fail.
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OP says the front seats dont have hold down clips.
If the seats tip forward, surely thats an issue??
Thought the OP meant something else, if there's no mechanism to keep them secure I'd definitely take them out for test
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Thought the OP meant something else, if there's no mechanism to keep them secure I'd definitely take them out for test

I think we all know only too well that Mr Nct Tester does not need
to find much to fail a car. And I suspect the unknown classic cars will make them fail anything they are not familiar with, just to be sure.
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Thought the OP meant something else, if there's no mechanism to keep them secure I'd definitely take them out for test
Surely it would fail with no seats ?
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On the NCT manual (page 17) there is an exception for Mini 1300 carbs cars as follows:

For the following Rover vehicles: a) Mini 1300 carburettor and open loop three-way catalyst, b) Metro Rover 100 1100 carburettor and open loop three-way catalyst, first registered on or before 31 December 1994, the exhaust emission limit for CO is 3.5% and for HC is 1200 ppm. Where a vehicle meets the CO limit but fails the HC limit, the inspector must perform a further HC test at 2000 rpm. If the vehicle meets the HC limit at 2000 rpm, it is considered to have met the requirements(1).
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On the NCT manual (page 17) there is an exception for Mini 1300 carbs cars as follows:

For the following Rover vehicles: a) Mini 1300 carburettor and open loop three-way catalyst, b) Metro Rover 100 1100 carburettor and open loop three-way catalyst, first registered on or before 31 December 1994, the exhaust emission limit for CO is 3.5% and for HC is 1200 ppm. Where a vehicle meets the CO limit but fails the HC limit, the inspector must perform a further HC test at 2000 rpm. If the vehicle meets the HC limit at 2000 rpm, it is considered to have met the requirements(1).
That sounds like someone won a battle against the NCT with this one.
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On the NCT manual (page 17) there is an exception for Mini 1300 carbs cars as follows:
Not applicable. That's for carb + cat.

A 1989 Mini Thirty is carb / no cat. Tested to 1/10/1986 - 31/12/1993 standards for CO (max. 3.5%) and HC (max. 750ppm)
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Not applicable. That's for carb + cat.

A 1989 Mini Thirty is carb / no cat. Tested to 1/10/1986 - 31/12/1993 standards for CO (max. 3.5%) and HC (max. 750ppm)
So does that mean my mini must meet the standards you quoted above. Officially where are those standards prescribed and I will get my garage to check the emissions.

If the engine is fitted with a 286 fast road cam and performance head (seller stated that it was years ago) what are the implications for emissions and how do I approach this for the nct?
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Once the seats are using proper seat rails, they should pass. If the tyres are rated for road use, they shouldn't be an issue either. A big thing they look for in older cars is corrosion
I checked the floor where the rear leg of the original seats sat and there is a plastic pad built into the carpet, but no sign of any bracket or mechanism to hold the seat in place when in the down position, does that mean there was none fitted originally and should not therefore be a requirement for the nct?

On corrosion, you are correct and today my garage has advised getting some welding done where floor pan meets lower front wings, otherwise body good.
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