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Wokeism of the day *Revised Mod Note in OP and threadbanned users*

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  • #1082
    Cordell
    Registered Users Posts: 5,769 ✭✭✭Cordell


    silverharp wrote: »
    what a time to be alive :pac:

    https://twitter.com/Emma_A_Webb/status/1328671724968308741

    So, if a woman feels unsafe about a man using the women toilet, tough luck you cisgender oppressor, his right to feel safe trumps hers.


  • #1083
    sbsquarepants
    Registered Users Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    Take that up with the Romans who created the c language.


    It's just superfluous nonsense.

    Here we have a car, here we have a modified car. There's really no need to point out that the first one hasn't been modified - you just assume it hasn't, and you will practically always be correct.

    If you're selling your house, you'd probably point out that you added a conservatory, or an extension or made a major change of some description, but when's the last time you seen an add for an unextended house without a conservatory?

    If you assume that a person is the gender they were born, you will literally be right almost every time. I'm 46 and i have never personally met a trans person - there is quite frankly zero need for me to prefix every person i have known as non trans. You only need point out the exceptions not the rule!


  • #1084
    1800_Ladladlad
    Registered Users Posts: 3,342 ✭✭✭1800_Ladladlad


    BBC Today program replaces 'fishermen' with 'fisherpeople'


    It's behind a paywall but its the usual bolloxogy :D

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/11/16/do-not-adjust-herring-bbc-today-programme-replaces-fishermen/


  • #1085
    ingalway
    Registered Users Posts: 651 ✭✭✭ingalway


    Cordell wrote: »
    So, if a woman feels unsafe about a man using the women toilet, tough luck you cisgender oppressor, his right to feel safe trumps hers.
    Apparently female Asian employees of Credit Suisse who complained that they did not want to share the female toilets with trans person Pippa Bunce were told they were free to use the disabled toilets. Pippa comes to work as a woman for half the week and for the rest of the week as Philip.

    Pippa has won awards for being a female hero and a top female business person.
    I bet Pippa's payslip reflects Philips wages 100% of the time.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6197705/City-workers-hit-gender-fluid-banker-works-days-Philip-Pippa.html


  • #1086
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users Posts: 33,012 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    sbsquarepants wrote: »
    It's just superfluous nonsense.

    Here we have a car, here we have a modified car. There's really no need to point out that the first one hasn't been modified - you just assume it hasn't, and you will practically always be correct.

    If you're selling your house, you'd probably point out that you added a conservatory, or an extension or made a major change of some description, but when's the last time you seen an add for an unextended house without a conservatory?

    If you assume that a person is the gender they were born, you will literally be right almost every time. I'm 46 and i have never personally met a trans person - there is quite frankly zero need for me to prefix every person i have known as non trans. You only need point out the exceptions not the rule!

    Aagin - I didn't make up the word or the usage! Lots of wrods in vaious langauges could be deemed "superfluous" - doesn't mean that they don;t get used from time to time.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • #1087
    Gervais08
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭Gervais08


    1800_Ladladlad wrote: »
    BBC Today program replaces 'fishermen' with 'fisherpeople'


    It's behind a paywall but its the usual bolloxogy :D

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/11/16/do-not-adjust-herring-bbc-today-programme-replaces-fishermen/

    And we say a sad farewell to the classic Julian Clary gag about sucking a Fisherman’s Friend.


  • #1088
    sbsquarepants
    Registered Users Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    Aagin - I didn't make up the word or the usage! Lots of wrods in vaious langauges could be deemed "superfluous" - doesn't mean that they don;t get used from time to time.


    My apologies your highness!:p

    I didn't mean to direct that at you, it was more of a scatter gun, directionless rant!

    The from time to time thing is perfect, if for some reason it's deemed necessary to point out that this persons gender aligns with their birth state, well then by all means point that out, but you don't need to do it all the time. It's just crazy to insist on using words which are in effect meaningless 99.99% of the time.

    For example i seen a photo on reddit a while back of a pair of melanistic tigers, beautiful beasts so they were. But they are very rare - there is simply no need for people to start refering to tigers as melanistic and non melanistic - it's perfectly safe to assume that if someone says tiger, they mean the non melanistic variety and if you are talking about the tiny percentage who are different to the others then you need to prefix that for clarity.

    Surely that's glaringly obvious to everyone?


  • #1089
    Vic_08
    Registered Users Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    sbsquarepants wrote: »
    My apologies your highness!:p

    I didn't mean to direct that at you, it was more of a scatter gun, directionless rant!

    The from time to time thing is perfect, if for some reason it's deemed necessary to point out that this persons gender aligns with their birth state, well then by all means point that out, but you don't need to do it all the time. It's just crazy to insist on using words which are in effect meaningless 99.99% of the time.

    For example i seen a photo on reddit a while back of a pair of melanistic tigers, beautiful beasts so they were. But they are very rare - there is simply no need for people to start refering to tigers as melanistic and non melanistic - it's perfectly safe to assume that if someone says tiger, they mean the non melanistic variety and if you are talking about the tiny percentage who are different to the others then you need to prefix that for clarity.

    Surely that's glaringly obvious to everyone?

    The purpose behind the introduction of "cis" into modern English is not it's requirement as a descriptor for those it is used to describe, it is to legitimise the falsehood that "trans" and "cis" are equal subsets of male and female.


  • #1090
    Gervais08
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭Gervais08


    Vic_08 wrote: »
    The purpose behind the introduction of "cis" into modern English is not it's requirement as a descriptor for those it is used to describe, it is to legitimise the falsehood that "trans" and "cis" are equal subsets of male and female.

    Would that I could thank this a thousand times!!!


  • #1091
    sbsquarepants
    Registered Users Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Vic_08 wrote: »
    The purpose behind the introduction of "cis" into modern English is not it's requirement as a descriptor for those it is used to describe, it is to legitimise the falsehood that "trans" and "cis" are equal subsets of male and female.


    You're probably right. Makes no real sense for any other reason.


    My view is quite simply this - you can not be turned into a man or a woman, any more than you can be turned into a horse or a pigeon! I absolutely accept that some people can be born the "wrong" body and i have no problem whatsoever with them doing whatever they can to address that and live the way they want to live. But to say that actually they are the exact same as a man or woman born in the correct body is just factually inaccurate - there's no wiggle room there. It's unfortunate for them, but it's reality and reality doesn't just go away because you don't like it.


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  • #1092
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    silverharp wrote: »
    what a time to be alive :pac:

    https://twitter.com/Emma_A_Webb/status/1328671724968308741

    In other words: “Women, ignore your instincts!”.

    The notice mentions people feeling safe. Why are all and every safety fear cited by transgender people taken completely seriously whilst women’s safety fears are dismissed as irrational or hysterical? It’s so hypocritical. Can we not take everybody’s safety fears seriously? If I’m nervous about somebody I’m sharing a space with, I take my instincts seriously. It doesn’t happen to me very often so when it happens, I take notice.


  • #1093
    utyh2ikcq9z76b
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭utyh2ikcq9z76b


    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    In other words: “Women, ignore your instincts!”.

    The notice mentions people feeling safe. Why are all and every safety fear cited by transgender people taken completely seriously whilst women’s safety fears are dismissed as irrational or hysterical? It’s so hypocritical. Can we not take everybody’s safety fears seriously? If I’m nervous about somebody I’m sharing a space with, I take my instincts seriously. It doesn’t happen to me very often so when it happens, I take notice.

    How about we don't let feeling's in the discussion at all. You can't control how people feel.


  • #1094
    Gervais08
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭Gervais08


    Alaina Tall Roaster wrote: »
    How about we don't let feeling's in the discussion at all. You can't control how people feel.

    Feelings > facts these days.


  • #1095
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/music/men-rule-the-charts-no-irish-female-artist-had-song-in-top-10-in-last-two-years-1.4410937

    It appears female artists aren't as popular as male artists in the Irish charts.

    Why?

    You guessed it: because of white men.


  • #1096
    ButtersSuki
    Registered Users Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    silverharp wrote: »
    what a time to be alive :pac:

    https://twitter.com/Emma_A_Webb/status/1328671724968308741

    Don't forget now, don't you do anything to make THEM fell uncomfortable, whilst always remembering it's fine for them to make YOU feel exactly that way, uncomfortable.


  • #1097
    AllForIt
    Registered Users Posts: 8,268 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    ...Ghost... wrote: »
    Nobody who is "woke" would call themselves woke.

    Then who's buying those Woke T-shirts in Penny's?
    Maybe they don't know what it means.


  • #1098
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    1800_Ladladlad wrote: »
    BBC Today program replaces 'fishermen' with 'fisherpeople'

    Granted my own personal experience relies on Deadliest Catch or a trip to Howth Marina but I’ve never seen a fisherwoman so it’s kind of redundant. Binwoman would be the same too. Anyone ever seen one? Then again, that 6 foot 4 broadly built Eastern European individual might identify as Gosia or Monika these days and I’d have to accept that.


  • #1099
    Mad_maxx
    Registered Users Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    the display of a facemask in ones social media profile

    latest sign of a virtuous citizen


  • #1100
    Dr. Bre
    Registered Users Posts: 7,536 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    Barman no longer to be used - its barpeople


  • #1101
    the purple tin
    Registered Users Posts: 10,943 ✭✭✭✭the purple tin


    Dr. Bre wrote: »
    Barman no longer to be used - its barpeople
    What about bartender or barkeep?


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  • #1102
    Vic_08
    Registered Users Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    Batrachotox wrote: »
    https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/music/men-rule-the-charts-no-irish-female-artist-had-song-in-top-10-in-last-two-years-1.4410937

    It appears female artists aren't as popular as male artists in the Irish charts.

    Why?

    You guessed it: because of white men.


    The irony being that chart music has always skewed heavily towards female audiences and that female audience skews even more towards male artists/bands.

    That article could have been shortened to a single line: Irish commercial radio; what a ball o' shyte.


  • #1103
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Vic_08 wrote: »
    The irony being that chart music has always skewed heavily towards female audiences and that female audience skews even more towards male artists/bands.

    That article could have been shortened to a single line: Irish commercial radio; what a ball o' shyte.

    Switch between 2FM, Today FM and iRadio and see how often it's a guy on his own. Aside from oldies and weekend slots it ain't too often.


  • #1104
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    I definitely heard yer one Louise o Neill referring to someone as woke in a positive sense..
    Also heard her calling for people to "burn it all down"..

    And there's no reason whatsoever a woman shouldn't be in the charts.. but like, the most recent reasonably local female I heard was singing a song about her own name..


  • #1105
    pappyodaniel
    Registered Users Posts: 5,716 ✭✭✭pappyodaniel


    Deleted User wrote: »
    And there's no reason whatsoever a woman shouldn't be in the charts.. but like, the most recent reasonably local female I heard was singing a song about her own name..

    Denise Chaila?


  • #1106
    CrabRevolution
    Registered Users Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    Batrachotox wrote: »
    https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/music/men-rule-the-charts-no-irish-female-artist-had-song-in-top-10-in-last-two-years-1.4410937

    It appears female artists aren't as popular as male artists in the Irish charts.

    Why?

    You guessed it: because of white men.
    I notice the male artists they reckon are unfairly topping the charts include the likes of Picture This, Niall Horan, Westlife, and Dermot Kennedy.

    Now I won't claim to have done any in depth market research but the vast majority of the fans of those acts would be women.

    Here's a gallery of a Niall Horan concert; look at any crowd facing shots and amongst the hundreds of faces the only men are Niall and his band:
    http://christiantierney.com/niall-horan

    But apparently men only dominate the charts because men conspire to put them there by discriminating against female artists, and nothing to do with the droves of women who voluntarily choose to buy/stream the men's songs instead of the womens?


  • #1107
    99nsr125
    Registered Users Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭99nsr125


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    I dont feel its a slur and i am cis.

    It is a slur


  • #1108
    99nsr125
    Registered Users Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭99nsr125


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    Who uses it as a slur?

    Also i think snoop dog does think the n word is a slur.

    I think its a slur not to call me a cis female to be honest. It means people won't know i was born and still identify as female 100%

    Natural (biological) woman is the description you're avoiding in your repressed wokeness


  • #1109
    Gervais08
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭Gervais08


    99nsr125 wrote: »
    It is a slur

    It’s meant as one and so it is one.


  • #1110
    Gervais08
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭Gervais08


    Watching Bake Off and there’s a trailer for “Is COVID Racist?”

    No. It’s a ****ing virus!!! Idiots at C4!!!


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  • #1111
    ingalway
    Registered Users Posts: 651 ✭✭✭ingalway


    The Principal of Edinburgh University called the Police because "offensive" stickers were found on campus that said “Female is a biological reality” and “Woman. Noun. Adult human female”. The stickers are offensive to trans people apparently.

    Biological facts and grammer are offensive and the Police need to be called.


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/principal-backs-transgender-students-over-hurtful-stickers-9jpztg2tz


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