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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 47 warriorpoetic


    When I first got wow I played it for 36 hours straight a few times but I have it moderated now. The reason people get addicted to it is because it's such a good game and addictive or not I'd much prefer this situation than a lesser wow. Can anyone who still plays wow actually say they're prefer if blizzard made the game not so enjoyable so you'd play it less? :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    Blahzer wrote: »
    You are so right man, It all started in DNC for me with Legend of Mir i did lans 6 days aweek for 2 year, I quit work well got kicked out lol, I would go to sleep all day then head in to DNC about 8PM and leave next morning around 10 AM,

    I played LOM for best part of the night with some CS just to relax as MMOs get you Worked up when Noobs get you killed,

    When DNC closed down i felt so bad cos i didnt have internet and couldnt play anymore, It was sad, My hole day was about LOM when i sleep i would be thinking about items i wanted to get in them game, How i could make my toon better, When i quit my head hurt, It was like losing a loved one, I couldnt go 5 mins without thinking about it, I am not joking, It took over my life, it took me about 6 months to get over it, Now i just remmber the good times, But then World of Warcraft came out in 2004, I beta tested the US one, And BANG!!!!!! I was hocked again, I played that game so much i nearly lost my wife and kids, THEY JUST TAKE OVER YOUR LIFE!!

    Its sad when you relate things in Real life to the game, I spent so much money and time on WoW! I quit about 8 months ago when i went off the army, But i started to play it again last week, I know were i went wrong in the past so i can controll the FEEELING TO skip work and not sleep! just PLAY PLAY PLAY!

    Got to get 70 got to get my flying mount!! Got to kill them Mofos!!

    BLAH!!!


    WoW here i come!


    All joking side, I mean this, They will wreck your life!!! if you dont be carefull, Remmber its only a GAME!

    You're much better off without the Legend of Mir, believe me I watched enough Chinese blokes playing it. Ah DNC... those were the days... kinda :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41 Lunatik72


    Pretty old postings here but thought I might reply anyways.

    I am living in Ireland for about 4 years now, my family isn't here and I don't have too many friends in this country either. I was always into computers, played a strategy game for about 5 years and it was loads of fun.

    I meat loads of people on LAN Parties and I still go there once or twice a year.

    Now I am playing EQ2 pretty HC and I don't mind if people call it addiction, passion or hobby. I rather play EQ2, chat with people who have the same passion than me than sitting in a pub getting drunk every nite and do the so called "socialising".

    Or what about people who come home after work and have to watch all their stupid series?

    There is loads of stuff which keeps you busy so why is playing a computer game worse than the telly for ex?

    A few more LAN Parties around Dublin would be nice to meet people with the same interests, I personally find it very hard to talk to people who don't quite know how to use a computer :)

    So yar I play and I have no intention to give up. Gimme a shout if you are thinking the same, always nice to have people to talk to who don't find you crazy :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 Kafka The Cat


    i was addicted for a while when i first started. then i quit. the easiest way to do it, is log on, say good bye, and uninstall. get rid of whatever is used ti install the game, pick up a good book, and start to read.

    alternatively, you could could put your ist through the monitor, but i wouldnt recommend it....:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 966 ✭✭✭GO_Bear


    Wow reading some of the olllllder posts in this thread i.e posted in 2003 lol ! , about the ammount of DAOC players , Did not know there where that many in ireland ,we always had a fairly big lan community of daoc players in Galway here . If you used to play it can you post your server and char(s) name lol .

    Anyways , I played DAoC alot , started when i was going into 4th year ( School ) , Made a balls of that year and ended up going to a private school for LC as i was getting nothing done .... i look back on alllll the time spent , and i just cnanot regret it tho , ,some of my closest friends are people who played with me , i gave it up a while ago still play free servers ( The odd times i.e once a month when i just want some RvR ) , and i still keep in contact with a lot of players on MSN .

    I am now in Third year college and play Eve online , ye i am addicted but it deos not require as much hands "on" time as oter MMO's , i.e i have yet to fail and exam , i still go out ( albeit less then most crazy ****ers :p ) but it grounds me , i.e i might go out once a week , while other go out 3 . this deos save me moneys for which i am happy .


    And

    Megatron wrote: »
    btw i play Alb/Excal. Gamblor EvilNeonStaff (Friar) and proud member of Shadowlords Society.



    EEEEw alblons :P

    I played Tinneth the Druid / Bard on Hibb Excal

    Also played many other servers / chars . EU / US / Classic / PvP / German ( eeew ) you name it ;p


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 21,730 Mod ✭✭✭✭entropi


    GO_Bear wrote: »
    EEEEw alblons :P

    I played Tinneth the Druid / Bard on Hibb Excal

    Also played many other servers / chars . EU / US / Classic / PvP / German ( eeew ) you name it ;p
    Alblon...one of my own toons haha:D never knew this was you on boards, i played as Speedr;) Anyways back on topic, i started on Legend of Mir too in beta, got hooked and played many years of it in DnC, then tusky got me into the Daoc beta and that was it...played it for 5 years alongside Neocron, Ragnarok Online, Swg, quit them and played Planetside for ages, then went to daoc us servers, City of Heroes and eve online for over 2 years. I was totally lost in the world of mmo's for over 7 years and during that time i lost any social life i had along with my friends (sitting in dnc 5 nights a week does that lol) and my health wasnt too good. About 2 1/2 years ago i decided to cut computers out of my life, not even a playstation in sight the closest thing to it is guitar hero on my phone...i'm still away from them, qualified as a gym instructor, masseur and playing hurling while going into my last year in college to be a sports therapist and reflexologist, while gaining lots of friends in the process:). The cycle CAN be broken, but its hard to do and oh so worth it to experience real life once again doing something you love...


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭StinkyMunkey


    adnans wrote: »
    this forum should come with an addictiveness warning since many games that are going to be talked about are addictive as ****. if you ever walk past DnC at three in the morning you should know what i'm talking about. (damn legend of mir and DAOC)

    its not just nerds that get affected by this, normal people, working people, can get messed up and their whole life can stop for a couple of weeks or even months when they start playing these type of games.

    anyway, now that i've given the warning to anyone crazy enough to try these games, can i ask those who were addicted once to any massively multiplayer game on how they beat that addiction and stopped playing it altogether?

    my solution is simple one. never pay for those games. no, i don’t steal accounts or anything. i simply beta test them. i've done about ten so far including anarchy online, earth and beyond, neocron and currently another few which you're not supposed to talk about because of the NDA (one is a massive space trading game). some are completely crap, mainly due to beta restrictions and other stuff but mainly because they are simple not that good. but there is always few that make you stay up until five in the morning and you have to be up at seven to go to college.

    so, once the beta test is over and you have to pay for the game. i refuse to pay and that severs the addiction. next please. but recently there's been some good ones and I’m really really tempted to play more. what’s the best way to stop?

    adnans

    Ah, the good old days of DNC, going out on the piss till the wee hours of the morning. Then hitting DNC for drunk fueled hours of CS with a couple of mates. Thats when i didnt live with the wife and have a 3yr old to look after.

    I still pine after DNC even to this day;).


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,033 ✭✭✭Jimbob 83


    Addicted im not addicted ! :p

    /Wonders what day it is and is it getting near to hosing down day :pac:

    Also Hai Donal Hai Speedr :)

    Im playing eve now as shade is rr11 and minstrel rr5 and i cba to play anything else properly, + the american playerbase are all angry teenagers or mad rednecks :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭cocoshovel


    I'm off of WoW since the start of September by my own choice, I have the leaving cert and what not and I won't be able to take it back up until August... Every day I think about it, listen to WoW music, check the forums once in a while to see whats going on, check my wow friends armories to see how they're doing etc. Man I miss it so much, I cannot wait until August! I also haven't looked into anything about Cataclysm or the changes implemented other then obvious ones that I seen previews of, I don't want to spoil it for myself when I do get it. It's my third time giving up WoW and probably the hardest because during the summer I was actually good at the game and getting places with a good guild, the times before that I was just a clueless idiot that didn't know what I was doing. I have/had:confused: many friends on my server that I got along great and told them I would be back in a years time, logging out was hard that day. It was a really low population server by the way.

    First thing I'm gonna do in August is go see what horrible things they did to my beautiful Barrens :(. Doin't spoil it please.

    I think its safe to say I am addicted, no?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,033 ✭✭✭Jimbob 83


    GO_Bear wrote: »
    Wow reading some of the olllllder posts in this thread i.e posted in 2003 lol ! , about the ammount of DAOC players , Did not know there where that many in ireland ,we always had a fairly big lan community of daoc players in Galway here . If you used to play it can you post your server and char(s) name lol .

    Anyways , I played DAoC alot , started when i was going into 4th year ( School ) , Made a balls of that year and ended up going to a private school for LC as i was getting nothing done .... i look back on alllll the time spent , and i just cnanot regret it tho , ,some of my closest friends are people who played with me , i gave it up a while ago still play free servers ( The odd times i.e once a month when i just want some RvR ) , and i still keep in contact with a lot of players on MSN .

    I am now in Third year college and play Eve online , ye i am addicted but it deos not require as much hands "on" time as oter MMO's , i.e i have yet to fail and exam , i still go out ( albeit less then most crazy ****ers :p ) but it grounds me , i.e i might go out once a week , while other go out 3 . this deos save me moneys for which i am happy .


    And






    EEEEw alblons :P

    I played Tinneth the Druid / Bard on Hibb Excal

    Also played many other servers / chars . EU / US / Classic / PvP / German ( eeew ) you name it ;p

    Here is my gimpchimp for DaoC(its shorter this way lol) http://gimpchimp.etilader.com/display.php?user=jimjimjim

    alao Bugatti = Speedr


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  • Registered Users Posts: 662 ✭✭✭-Vega-


    Played daoc for 5 years or so..maybe more? I dont remember. Got addicted easily, mainly because there were 10 of us all playing together in a cafe in Galway and we rawked. Then daoc died out, I tried Eve for a few months but found it very lonely. Didn't mind daoc because I wasn't the only one, but couldn't handle logging onto Eve drifting in endless space solo with no one interested in what I killed/achieved. Went back to Daoc American servers for a brief stint but the magic of the original game was gone.

    In the middle of all that, somewhere I tried WoW and didn't like it but that was because compared to Daoc in it's glory days, WoW had nothing on it. Recently though, I picked up the oul free trial account, 14 days I think it was, that was at Halloween.. now I've 3 lvl 85's, 100k or so and a guild with pretty much all the original 10 daoc players in it bar one or two. It's like daoc again :p People actually going 'Cool you just killed xyz' or .. 'Nice one you got that sword!'

    Ah .. bliss.. :p Trying to find a healthy balance of sitting down playing games, getting up doing excercise and good eating, and going to work is tough :p But if you're strict on yourself you can do it :p So far Ive got the gaming and work part down ;p lol !


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,033 ✭✭✭Jimbob 83


    -Vega- wrote: »
    Played daoc for 5 years or so..maybe more? I dont remember. Got addicted easily, mainly because there were 10 of us all playing together in a cafe in Galway and we rawked. Then daoc died out, I tried Eve for a few months but found it very lonely. Didn't mind daoc because I wasn't the only one, but couldn't handle logging onto Eve drifting in endless space solo with no one interested in what I killed/achieved. Went back to Daoc American servers for a brief stint but the magic of the original game was gone.

    In the middle of all that, somewhere I tried WoW and didn't like it but that was because compared to Daoc in it's glory days, WoW had nothing on it. Recently though, I picked up the oul free trial account, 14 days I think it was, that was at Halloween.. now I've 3 lvl 85's, 100k or so and a guild with pretty much all the original 10 daoc players in it bar one or two. It's like daoc again :p People actually going 'Cool you just killed xyz' or .. 'Nice one you got that sword!'

    Ah .. bliss.. :p Trying to find a healthy balance of sitting down playing games, getting up doing excercise and good eating, and going to work is tough :p But if you're strict on yourself you can do it :p So far Ive got the gaming and work part down ;p lol !

    I've put 2moro aside so i should be in [ii] from 10-4 or so if you about im gonna give this Rift business a go :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 662 ✭✭✭-Vega-


    Jimbob 83 wrote: »
    I've put 2moro aside so i should be in [ii] from 10-4 or so if you about im gonna give this Rift business a go :D

    I'll pop in, tried Rift, it's okay. Conan was better I think. No interest in playing WoW Jim? We need you and Donal active, old C7 hit squad back in action :p


  • Registered Users Posts: 810 ✭✭✭Laisurg


    I played Wow for quite a while and really the only massively time consuming thing was leveling and gearing up at max level in either battlegrounds or dungeons, after that arena and raiding weren't really all that time consuming (few hours in the evening few times a week)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33 HarbinSnowfall


    Personally, I've never found MMORPGs all that addictive. Instead, I find them to be one of the most lacking and boring video game genres out there. There's so much grinding and hardly any content to go along with it. I grew up on SNES RPGs, and let me tell you, grinding is not necessary and not why people played the games. They were good for character interaction, plot, strategy, and non-linear exploration and sidequests.

    And with MMORPGs, it's just this long, overly drawn out grind with no content. Grinding isn't content, heck, fighting isn't content. The best fights in RPGs tend to be the ones that advance the plot. They're just something to pass the time and prepare you for bosses or the next plot development, they aren't supposed to be the central part of any game at all.

    It's a little improved by having crafting. But that can only go so far. In MMORPGs, general, there's a terrible lack of NPCs, and the ones that do exist are incredibly static. And the players don't make it any better. Most players talk in terrible internet speak, and talk like they're players, not members of a fictional world. Unless you find a good roleplayers guild, I find that most players detract from the gaming experience, not add to it. And roleplayers seem to be a minority fading thinner and thinner everyday, it's sad. Greater seem to be the griefers who forgot the name of the genre they're playing. It's a role-playing game, people. Role-playing is in the name, it's main appeal is supposed to be it's roleplaying content. But MMORPGs have almost none. It's hardly even worth of the name "role playing game".

    Unlike other RPG games, offline RPGs, you tend not to have a family, a specific place in society, a impact on a maco-story that affects the world at large. Nothing. You're just out in that field doing boring fighting of the same monsters until you reach a level that you move elsewhere, and for what? Again, the content to grind ratio is stark. I don't even like wRPGs and I must say the the gameplay in MMORPGs is far behind wRPGs. They gameplay should be about them giving you weighty decision, you know, a role. Not a darn field to mindlessly fight on.

    And then there's the fact that gaming companies tend to differ so much and not work on the things that aren't a friendly GUI, "balanced fighting", or generally related to the grind. Again, essentially making them sandboxes with not a speck of content. World of Warcraft has little things like being able to go grab a drink and get drunk. Little things like that are immersion creating. Other games, tend to not. Because since it's a "little thing", is all seen as non-essential and no group is ever bothered to make it. I hate World of Warcraft, but I have to say at least that was a very good idea. And then there's houses, some MMORPGs have the nice feature of a house, but do most of them? Nope. You know, all of the nice little immersive things like that which are a great tool for roleplayers, what everyone who plays the games should be doing.

    What is addictive about these games? I've tried to get into them, and I'm not trying to rain on the parade of this section and those who play them. But I've tried and tried playing them, and I've never played one yet that I've never gotten past level 34 on any of them. They're just too boring. The grind is long and unrewarding. What's the reward of being a high level in a game with no content? I keep trying new ones and playing them, hoping it'll get better, but I keep getting disappointed. I want to like MMORPGs, I really do, but they're making it hard. I struggle to keep myself interested by telling myself of all the potential involved, but about 70 hours later and being sick of grinding, I find myself putting down the game and never picking it back up. I really wish MMORPGs could become a game genre I could become addicted to, but they really haven't been able to manage to so far.

    I mean, there's like no character development, no interaction, no plot, no backstory, no content, nothing.

    Sorry, please don't take too much offense to this post. I'm just frustrated. I'm tired, I wish I could get addicted to these games. I wish I understood the appeal. I wish I would stop trying to play and love them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,033 ✭✭✭Jimbob 83


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  • Registered Users Posts: 231 ✭✭DermotOH


    Ah, the good old days of DNC, going out on the piss till the wee hours of the morning. Then hitting DNC for drunk fueled hours of CS with a couple of mates. Thats when i didnt live with the wife and have a 3yr old to look after.

    I still pine after DNC even to this day;).


    What was this DNC you speak of? Lan Centre?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    I was never there but it was an internet cafe and gaming centre in Dublin called does not compute.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,084 ✭✭✭✭Kirby


    andyoume wrote: »
    I also refuse to pay for games.

    Thanks for that. Great contribution there.....


  • Registered Users Posts: 826 ✭✭✭Eoin247


    Used to be wow for me. Going to boarding school really tamed the addiction though and so after a while once I slowly got through the content (on the few breaks back home), I just got bored of it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,128 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


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    The above is when I started my WoW account, have had no breaks.

    Thats nearly 7 years...

    And including Alpha and beta, it comes close to 8.

    Thats just over €1200 on subscriptions, neverminding the amount of server transfers and faction changes

    O lordy....

    In contrast

    That is roughly 20 console games priced @ €50.

    How many games on average does the hardcore(lol) console gamer buy games?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 336 ✭✭oxo_


    TheDoc wrote: »
    20120116171417.jpg

    The above is when I started my WoW account, have had no breaks.

    Thats nearly 7 years...
    14/02/05	    N/A	        Free Month	      Expired
    

    Beat you by 4 days :)

    Spent loads on character transfers too over the years :(

    Before that the only really MMO I was mad into was PlanetSide for years and the whole outfit (mostly from UK) joined wow together when it came out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,084 ✭✭✭✭Kirby


    Never did a server transfer in WoW. I liked mine and didn't see the point. If it was free, maybe.....but they charged 20 quid for it and you were stuck there for three months. Ridiculous. I knew alot of people who did it constantly though.

    Waste of money if you ask me. People used to do it for the hell of it. Unless your server is empty and have huge BG queues, I just don't see the point. The same things that annoyed you in server A will still be there in server B.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,128 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    Kirby wrote: »
    Never did a server transfer in WoW. I liked mine and didn't see the point. If it was free, maybe.....but they charged 20 quid for it and you were stuck there for three months. Ridiculous. I knew alot of people who did it constantly though.

    Waste of money if you ask me. People used to do it for the hell of it. Unless your server is empty and have huge BG queues, I just don't see the point. The same things that annoyed you in server A will still be there in server B.

    I know I transfered a few times for raiding reasons, to get with better guilds or better schedules..

    Currently there is NO guild on Outland that does an actually focused raid schedule.

    Everyone does 4-5 nights a week at 4 hours each and just assumes the more you are there, the better progression is, which is rubbish.

    ATT was doing 3 nights a week 2 hours each when we were knocking down progression..... Havnt found a single guild that can match that sort of productivity and output from such a shrot space of raid time


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 22,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Interesting video on someone's addiction to Warcraft.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 336 ✭✭oxo_


    ^^

    He started playing the same day I did, Valentines day 2005.
    Difference for me though, my GF (now wife) was sat beside me saying how good the game looked. She started playing herself a few weeks later. Far as I remember anyway, we'd already had our fun out that night so meh...

    Poor chap really, too young to waste so much time on a game and ignore sorting out his real life. Each to their own though, if he was happy (which ultimately it seemed he wasn't) then so be it.

    I still don't get the whole "addiction" thing, don't buy it.

    Mentally unable to comprehend the difference between a virtual world/game and real life and as a cause/effect of that being as such mentally unstable (however bad that sounds, I don't mean it with any malice) then sure, I get that and understand that but that's not an addiction, it's a mental problem and one I'm sure is easily solved. Or it's just a young mind which should be out experiencing life (for real) rather than have it filled all the hours of the day with fantasy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    TheDoc wrote: »
    I know I transfered a few times for raiding reasons, to get with better guilds or better schedules..

    Currently there is NO guild on Outland that does an actually focused raid schedule.

    Everyone does 4-5 nights a week at 4 hours each and just assumes the more you are there, the better progression is, which is rubbish.

    ATT was doing 3 nights a week 2 hours each when we were knocking down progression..... Havnt found a single guild that can match that sort of productivity and output from such a shrot space of raid time

    In fairness 4-5 nights, 4 hours is the best way to progress under most circumstances. Monkey see, monkey do. Rinse, repeat etc etc.

    The reason att's progression was so good was there was a lot of people who had either already done the content or were doing it in other guilds during normal raiding hours.


  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭stephen090


    I used to be ridiculously addicted to the game Runescape. It took 3 or 4 major attempts to cut this game from my life before I finally got rid of it. This spanned over 5 or 6 years and even saw my results in the Leaving Cert suffer for it. I knew how important other things were, I just couldn't pull myself away from the gravity pull the game had on me. I'm currently seeing the demise of my brother through this game. It's wrecking his social life and ruining his chances of completing a good Leaving. I managed to scrape through it, however it's got so bad with him, he's ending up doing 6 pass subjects, because he missed so much school because of the game. He is an intelligent boy and could have easily achieved great results with all honours, however Runescape has got the better of him and sadly none of us will ever see that accomplished. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 jay136


    I hate online games


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  • Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 4,599 CMod ✭✭✭✭RopeDrink


    Quick story about WoW addiction:

    I recall working in Boston Scientific in my early twenties, doing 3x12hr shifts a week, earning plenty of money and enjoying all the time off it provided - usually with creativity at home (making games, learning photoshop, dabbling with a flash animation), or booze-filled parties when nights crawled around. Life was good.

    As time went on, I started bumping into an acquaintance from old Boards LANs at the smoking area during work. During one of our impromptu lunch-break smokes, we were chatting about games, and she described World of Warcraft to me. I had never played at the time, but it had been out for probably a year by then and was blossoming. I was probably one of the few who hadn't noticed, but she successfully and interestingly brought it to my attention, so it was off to Game Stop to buy vanilla and a sub-card.

    Addicted from vanilla all the way to the end of WotLK ever since. The social aspect, the worthwhile achievements, my newfound enjoyment of recording and making videos - there was never enough time in the day to do what I wanted to do. Those PvP ranks and PvE raids weren't going to complete themselves, and no way was I going to miss anything. By addiction, I mean finding any excuse not to work so I could play more, putting off social activities, wasting money, whatever it took to be online.

    It wasn't a good time, and I remember losing my job eventually, but I was happy out. I'd still socialize with my RL crew, but most weren't really gamers, so they never got it, and all I wanted to do was be home playing. I remember WoW being more valuable than my girlfriend at the time (in my mind back then anyway - not so much in hindsight), but hey, who cares, having fun, life is good, great game, let's play.

    This went on until around WotLk, when I finally broke it (thanks to a WoW clone, ironically). Learning the simple fact that there are other things out there to play (and realizing how difficult it is to progress in all of them equally) helped me curb it and get back to some normalcy, though I still played WoW quite often throughout the aftermath. In most cases, I'd check out the expansion, deep-dive it for a month or three, then probably quit. This has repeated to Shadowlands, with Dragonflight being the first I have not instantly snapped up.

    Ironically, I've just uploaded a video showing some of the photoshop nonsense I used to make as intros and flare for old Vanilla-TBC-WotLK videos, inspired by Street Fighter 2 and other trends. I would have quit a lot sooner, except making videos and fleshing out a 2006+ YouTube channel became just as addicting as things like, say, getting Lt.General and acquiring the Black Raptor in Vanilla (helping a friend get High Warlord, which required near 24/7 grinding on our server. The guy got it of course because his addiction was infinitely worse than mine).

    Gaming addiction is very real, even if there are no chemicals involved, and there are layers to it. It's one thing to just want to be playing all the time, and another thing to put your entire life on hold for the sake of it, even going as far as blowing all finances and sanity, shunning friends and family, putting off work, forsaking your own health, but people have done that (and worse) just to be online.

    As for Ropey in the present, I walked into the gaming industry a few years after busting the addiction. I'm still a hardcore gamer (and have been since 1989), but thankfully, I no longer put life on hold for any singular title, but I do get nostalgic from time to time.



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