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not sure how that would happen. Just making the point that infrastructure in rural areas is subsidised by the taxes paid in urban areas, as it is in all countries really. There seems to be a myth on these Boards and elsewhere that rural Ireland pays its own way in terms of infrastructure, it simply doesnt and the stats bear this out.
Again Im not arguing against the system, just pointing out realities to posters who say rural Ireland pays for everything itself. It doesn't here in Ireland and it doesn't in other countries either.
A lot of the expensive infrastructure in rural areas is not actually built for people in rural areas - it is to connect the larger cities and towns to each other.
There is a plan to spend a billion Euro to connect Cork and Limerick cities. The vast majority of the length of that motorway will pass through rural, less populated, areas. They can of course benefit from it, but the main beneficiaries are people and businesses in the cities. In fact, motorways often cause disruption to local life due to properties being bisected and lanes etc. turned into dead ends.0 -
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Donald Trump wrote: »Yeah, but as explained above, you aren't including the additional costs of prisons and methadone clinics etc.
It's quite satisfying when you have won an argument so comprehensively that your opponent feels the need to resort to such desperate (not to mention bizarre) non-sequitors
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El Tarangu wrote: »It's quite satisfying when you have won an argument so comprehensively that your opponent feels the need to resort to such desperate (not to mention bizarre) non-sequitors
Ah sure, whatever makes you happy.
Ignorance can be bliss0 -
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Donedeal new poles 100e each. What is it makes you doubt it
I wouldn't take every ad on done deal as gospel truth.
I can't remember the grade of timber and spec of pressure treatment acceptable for the ESB but it alot better than normal timber posts so I'm just surprised they could be as cheap as a hundred euro0 -
El Tarangu wrote: »Maintaining a kilometre of road that connects an estate of 200 dwellings is more cost-effective (per inhabitant) than maintaining a road that goes to one single dwelling for a county council, and indeed society in general - I'm not sure how you can fail to grasp this principle.
No; urban taxpayers subsidise rural dwellers for everything, but particularly in the case of road maintenance carried out by county councils (some more stats for you here) https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-20262606.html
Not bitter at all, but clearly continue to build houses in the middle of nowhere, which will cause these higher costs for society for generations to come, is not at all sustainable economically (not even to mention the ecological point).
Road damage, and therefore maintenance requirements, are a function of vehicle weight, but it's not linear, it's a shocking power to the 4th. That means that each time one of the multiple tractors that pass my house each day, which weigh 5.7 times as much as my car, does 1,023 times as much damage to the road as my car does. Given there is a dairy farm past my house, a large milk tanker goes up the road daily. That thing does 9,600 times as much damage to the road as my car.
It would be safe to say that the road maintenance requirements inflicted on rural roads by those living in one-off houses and driving normal cars is utterly insignificant to the point of being near immeasurable.
Once again, I have to repeat, that the infrastructure in rural areas is a requirement of farming, and this clearly applies to maintenance as well as establishment. One off rural houses are not being subsidised by urban dwellers, the costs all relate to farming activity.
In February, the ESB had the road completely blocked with an 8 vehicle crew, installing a new transformer.
It is a great example of the costs of one-off rural housing being imaginary. That large crew were installing a new transformer, the sole connection to it is the dairy farm, where there had recently been a lot of activity with the installation of new equipment, which it's reasonable to assume had much larger power supply requirements than the existing connection could deliver.
About 2 months ago, the road was closed for half a day while the road outside and adjoining that farm was resurfaced, because it was in a poor state because of all the SUVs, tractors milk tankers, and quad bikes that buzz in and out of the farm yard all day long.
Townies are just competely out of their depth when it comes to understanding why rural infrastructure exists.0 -
Road damage, and therefore maintenance requirements, are a function of vehicle weight, but it's not linear, it's a shocking power to the 4th. That means that each time one of the multiple tractors that pass my house each day, which weigh 5.7 times as much as my car, does 1,023 times as much damage to the road as my car does. Given there is a dairy farm past my house, a large milk tanker goes up the road daily. That thing does 9,600 times as much damage to the road as my car.
It would be safe to say that the road maintenance requirements inflicted on rural roads by those living in one-off houses and driving normal cars is utterly insignificant to the point of being near immeasurable.
Once again, I have to repeat, that the infrastructure in rural areas is a requirement of farming, and this clearly applies to maintenance as well as establishment. One off rural houses are not being subsidised by urban dwellers, the costs all relate to farming activity.
In February, the ESB had the road completely blocked with an 8 vehicle crew, installing a new transformer.
It is a great example of the costs of one-off rural housing being imaginary. That large crew were installing a new transformer, the sole connection to it is the dairy farm, where there had recently been a lot of activity with the installation of new equipment, which it's reasonable to assume had much larger power supply requirements than the existing connection could deliver.
About 2 months ago, the road was closed for half a day while the road outside and adjoining that farm was resurfaced, because it was in a poor state because of all the SUVs, tractors milk tankers, and quad bikes that buzz in and out of the farm yard all day long.
Townies are just competely out of their depth when it comes to understanding why rural infrastructure exists.
But not all of these farms make money. Realistically, it would help farming if farms were a lot larger in this country and they would need less subsidies.0 -
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