The Frankel Foals Watch Thread!

Lt Dan wrote: »

Any think it was a Mark Johnson thing rather than the horse ?

Looks bad ,Francus just faded badly to two horses that have ran less races

Looking good for Juddmonte's former horse Famous Name. Not many of his has ran and he already has a listed winner in the wonderfully named Escobar

I agree that it would have more to do with the Mark Johnston factor than anything else. I've never bought into the media fawning over him. His horses blow hot and cold, and he has a habit of over-racing them.

With Fair Eva already 4/1 fav for next year's 1,000 Guineas and Frankel having a high first time out win/run ratio for his 2yo's so far, I don't think Juddmonte will be worrying too much just yet.

klairondavis wrote: »

1-3 in the Lowther. Fair Eva third behind Queen Kindly.

A very interesting race, if you took out the first and second then Fair Eva would have put in a star performance in beating her field 4l. So she probably ran her race, there's a question about her being better over further but the O'Brien's filly with her 3lb penalty today and being out of a Galileo mare is likely to be better than Fair Eva over a mile and there's a strong possibility that Roly Poly isn't the best 1,000 guineas prospect in the O'Brien yard.

Not sure about the winner, her form so far is that of a sprinter and she was getting 3lb off Roly Poly today.

BumperD wrote: »

Good article pg 4 today's racing post on the next few due to hit the track Swiss Storm , Rainbow Legacy, eminent, tsavo, Harba

It'll be good to see some of the less precious ones hitting the track. Bar that Aljezeera who looks like a middle distance filly, they've been sharp types that he's had so far, mainly 6f winners and not the types to progress as 3yo's. The word Precocious strikes me as very apt for what he's sired so far.

It'll be very interesting to see how O'Brien's Frankel colt San Remo progresses under the start them easy and build them up training regime of Ballydoyle as compared to the ready first time bunch of Frankel's in England that we saw so much of so far.

Having said that San Remo's debut performance was woeful even by Ballydoyle's debut standards and he ran out of puff extremely quickly that day, showing none of the staying on in their debut promise that marks out many of O'Brien's future stars.

At this stage the Lowther winner out of a Lowther winner is the only top class runner Frankel has and many first season sires throw more than a few of those group class fast 2yos in their first crops.

Seven Heavens won his two horse race in fine style today and it was a respectable time. The combination of Gosden, Juddmonte ownership and a racing style very like his sire make him the nicest Frankel colt that I've seen yet.

Johner wrote: »

I was watching the race thinking there was no way he was going to be impressive with the way he was pulling so hard. Looks a lovely prospect.

I was thinking Kingman when I saw him. He's got speed, has a miler brother by Cape Cross and a 10f brother by Dalakhani. He could develop into a proper Guineas horse under Gosden's tutelage.

Gavin "shels" wrote: »

Swiss Storm makes his debut in the 2.30 Haydock, big things expected.

Looks like a handy bit of placement again. If he is even above average and assuming ready to race he should handle most of that field. That said hes probably half the price he would be if not for the Frankel factor so I'll be laying if he gets a bit shorter.

Gavin shels wrote: »

Swiss Storm makes his debut in the 2.30 Haydock, big things expected.

He's back to make amends today in 1.10 Newbury.

Fair Eva beaten at odds on again. Very disappointing last two runs from her