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Beasty's sweaty plaster cast - the road to recovery 2014/5/6/7.....

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,277 ✭✭✭MB Lacey


    Beasty wrote: »
    So the back spasm has improved in the sense I am now walking upright, although I am getting sciatica down my leg which has the odd sensation of pain combined with numbness

    ..In theory the endurance events should have suited me but it soon became clear I was struggling, partly down to the lack of effort over the past couple of weeks, partly down to been a little reticent trying to avoid exacerbating my back problems, partly down to this virus which was seeing me struggle particularly towards the end of the races...

    ..but struggled in the second and eased off before the final one..

    ..Stuck around for 5 laps but again did not compete for the sprint - normally I'm just getting warmed up by the last event and my strength tends to show but last night I was clearly struggling..

    I'll see how I am on Sunday and may give the vets race a go, but expect to drop out after a couple of hard laps if I do

    Beasty, you know your own body better than anyone, but as someone who also suffers from back issues and gets carried away to the point of numerous relapses where I can't walk - can I just point out your use of the word struggle several times in your last post and advise you give Sunday a miss and rest, especially if you're feeling fine.
    I purposefully deleted all the positives from your last post because that's the exciting good stuff which can take over.
    It all just sounds too close to relapse and I think a weekend of relaxing might keep your back going for longer in the end.
    Just putting it out there ;)


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,256 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    I've been through this dozens of time with the back. Getting back on the bike (and indeed pushing it when I do) actually seems to improve my recovery. I get these spasms once or twice a year and have my recovery strategy pretty much off to a T. The thing I am careful of is not to risk the all out effort of a standing start yet, but racing per se will not, based on all my previous experiences, cause further issue.

    What I am unsure of though is this virus, which has lingered more than usual, and looking back was in my view more at the root of my "struggles" on Wednesday. I'll see how things go over the next 24 hours before deciding on whether to race on Sunday, but this is one of the few remaining opportunities to really push it on the endurance front before I refocus on track (and in particular pursuit) specific training ahead of the World Masters in October (my last back issue was a month ahead of last year's event and I thought initially I would not make it but the core work I've been doing has, I am pretty certain, allowed me to get over these bouts remarkably quickly)


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,256 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    So on Sunday I headed off to the IVCA race. As I approached the sign-on location the weather progressively worsened. By the time I got there it was pretty miserable and my back was stiffening - so I turned round and headed home! I did a 25 minute WB session that evening and yesterday was out for a 2 and a half hour spin to help rebuild some base (with no particular issues other than the shoulder and wrist playing up after an hour or so). I'm aiming at a couple more lengthy spins ahead of returning to racing next week


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,256 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Back to some racing this week after various ailments and a holiday last week (when I managed to get some decent spins on the Cornish hills to rebuild a bit of base)

    It's been a couple of months since my last road race with track work being a priority and then the back problem and virus. I'm over the after affects of the virus and probably 90-95% of the way there with the back although that remaining 5-10% does not affect my cycling. Still no sign of any let up with the shoulder and I've an appointment with the ENT specialist next week as I'm definitely suffering from sinus problems although again neither are particularly affecting my cycling

    So Tuesday evening was a 50km IVCA race at Summerhill. Only 13-14 in my race and we stuck together pretty much throughout except for one or two trying unsuccessful breaks. After 2 (of 3) laps I was still feeling very fresh and hoped my strength would show in the final sprint but unfortunately I was badly cut up and had to ease back, taking 7th place

    Then on Wednesday it was the track league. No points but I managed to make my first ever sprint final (largely because none of us realised that 2 would qualify from each heat!), and I had a decent effort in the scratch race.

    After the recent problems it was great to be back and I feel as if there is plenty of room for improvement with some of my main targets for the season still to come - the IVCA track championships in September, the World Masters at the start of October and the LVRC championships a few weeks later


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,256 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Tuesday was the final IVCA midweek event of the year, a 20km circuit TT. This was to be only my second "proper" TT of the year. Alas my shoulder and in particular wrist suffered as it did in the previous outing in May. I ended up spending a couple of short spells sat up to relieve the arm a bit, although by the end I was barely gripping at all with my right hand. Still the legs had a half-decent workout

    Then on Wednesday it was my first club league event since another TT, albeit on the roadbike to protect the arm, back in April. This was a Corkagh Park race over 30 mins + 3 laps, the "B" race within the club league

    Managed to sit in throughout, although clearly was not finding as much shelter as possible giving myself a bit of room by sitting a couple of feet outside the main "line" for most of the race. NP over 34 mins was far better than anything I've done all year at 277w. I didn't position myself well for the final sprint and finished 4th. Another 20m or so and I reckon I could have got 2nd, but again it was the wider workout I got that pleased me.

    So onto today. I've a couple of marshal duties between now and the end of the season and this was to be my final RR of the year. Alas it was not to be as someone deliberately rammed the back of my car (not once but twice) on the way over to sign on for the IVCA race. Was in shock after that and after a visit to the local Garda station to report everything (the other driver drove off making it a hit and run) I headed back home. At this stage I don't feel as if there is much in the way of physical damage, but with all the damage already to my neck, shoulder, arm and back it may take some time for any symptoms to become apparent if there was any whiplash.


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  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,256 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    After the little escapade a week gone Sunday:

    Back - slightly worse
    Neck - slightly worse with pain in new places
    Shoulder - well that's been getting progressively worse for some time - guess I can't blame the other driver too much for that. Now lining up a consultation with orthopaedic surgeon
    Sinuses - again can't pin anything on the other driver, but I'm heading off for a CT scan in the morning. I've had 2 previous operations to clear sinus/nasal polyps and suspect I may end up under the knife again.
    Head - all over the place. Currently feels like I've been set back 9 months in the recovery, although when that cleared last time it did so overnight - hopefully it won't last the 6 weeks it did back in December after someone dropped their cabin baggage on my head

    Until today, when I did a commute, I had little interest in getting back on the bike and made do with a couple of short Wattbike sessions. Going to have to get my act together though as the IVCA championships are due to take place a week on Saturday


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,667 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    No updates for a while, hows it going?
    C


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,256 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Been feeling pretty crap since the "incident" 5 weeks/3 posts ago, and have not been posting much at all. Lower back and neck are still playing up.

    Did the IVCA champs and got 2 punctures - one in each rear disc wheel tubs, the 2nd as I was 3/4 of the way through my pursuit. Had to borrow a standard wheel for the re-run and struggled, as I did in the TT. Didn't do too badly in the scratch but failed to get into the medals

    Then off to the eye specialist - retinal tear diagnosed and he did some laser surgery there and then. Don't yet know if the RTA triggered that.

    Last week it was the ENT specialist - extensive sinusitis/nasal polyps. Booked in for surgery towards the end of November. Not looking forward to that - had it done twice before and even though I should be discharged from hospital the following day, the sensation of coming too with the nostrils completely blocked with gauze/cotton wool and not having consumed any liquids for the previous 12 hours or so is, to say the least, unpleasant

    Due to see the shoulder specialist early November:(

    Currently on the other side of the pond, getting back on Saturday, then will be heading over to Manchester for the World Track Masters. Although I've entered all 5 events I may stick to the TT and Pursuit, depending on how I'm feeling, as I'm not entirely sure about partaking in bunch racing on an indoor track in a field of 20+ at present.

    Have the LVRC champs at the end of October in Newport when I'll also be taking a detour to the London 6 day one evening.

    Other than that, everything's OK(ish)


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,256 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    The weekend had been planned with military precision. Originally I had entered all 5 events at the World Track Masters but after the hit & run incident a couple of months back I had cut it back to the first 3 events. The scratch on Saturday, the TT on Sunday, and the pursuit on Monday.

    Wednesday was spent travelling over to Manchester. On Thursday there was a start gate session at 4pm, followed by an evening of Europa League football at Old Trafford. Friday was all about setting up in the "team" pen and a 2 hour open session in the evening. However I kept that session short, using it as a warm-up and testing the pursuit and bunch race set-ups.

    Then onto Saturday. I had been very nervous about indoor bunch racing against unknown opponents as my confidence had taken a big backwards step with the RTA. I consoled myself with the option of simply hanging off the back and dropping out if I got twitchy in the race. First though there was Colin Lynch's world record to witness.

    I had a Dolan Track Champion bike "resident" an the Velodrome and had set that upon the turbo. However when I was going to start my warm-up I saw the seat post clamp was cracked. The onsite mechanic did some quick repairs, but what I did not realise was the clamp is integrated into the frame, so basically that frame is now kaput

    Then the turbo didn't work. I found a screw on the floor and tried fixing it. Alas there was also a washer missing so I needed to head back to the mechanic to get something to hold everything together!

    There were over 40 signed on meaning in my heat we would have 21 riders going for 12 places in the final. The last thing I wanted though was to race again that evening, so getting into the final was never part of the plan. However I was not going to turn down an opportunity should one arise

    The race was short - only 20 laps (5km), and I quickly settled in. I knew the 2 safest places were either somewhere near the front or somewhere hanging off the back. I went with the former and stayed in the front third or so until about 6 laps when 2 guys pushed on. I joined them but one was quickly back into the bunch leaving the 2 of us out front. The bunch was back with us after another 3 laps or so though. Still I had time to sit in and recover. Then with 5 or 6 laps to go I found myself at the front. Didn't really want to be there and slowed down for a lap or so before a large group came round and broke away. I pushed on for a couple of laps but it was clear the front group would swallow up all the qualification places so I rolled in last (well at least ahead of the guy who DNS!)

    Sunday morning, 3am, I wake up. The left ear is playing up. It's swollen and sore. This has now happened 5 times since the accident. It became a very uncomfortable night and indeed I was not really up to much throughout the day. Another trip to Old Trafford did ensue as my TT was not going to be until nearly 7pm. By the time I came out of the match I was pretty much resigned to not racing. Headed over to the track anyway but was not feeling very well.

    Monday morning I was due to sign on about 9am, but woke up around 2, this time the other ear had, almost literally, blown up. Another uncomfortable night ensued, and again I was in no condition to race

    Again I headed off to the track. One of my teammates had a problem. His stem meant his bars were illegal. My Scatto bars are shallower and I lent them to him. That must have jinxed him as in his repechage he came up against one of the Irish guys. They came together in the final bend and my bars took a bit of a battering - not as much as my teammate though.

    Anyway, now on the ferry heading back to Dublin. the way this weekend's gone I guess there's a fair chance it could sink....

    (in the meantime I might just scour the velodromeshop.net to see what they have in frames and bars)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,667 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    Tough one Beasty, set new goals and ever onwards.


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  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,256 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    A bit of retail therapy has been prescribed so a replacement Dolan Track Champion Frame is now on order along with some track bars....

    In other news I went back to the eye surgeon this morning. He had to do some further laser surgery as the retinal tear had not been completely sealed last time. Was very painful this time. At least the ears are starting to settle down.

    Hopefully I'll be back on a bike some time over the weekend (assuming the nosebleeds don't get much worse!!)


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,256 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Nosebleeds have dried up. Ears are back to normal size. Eye is a bit irritated but otherwise OK. So back on the bike today. I hour just to turn the legs over. Everything seems OK, so I guess that final target of the year - the LVRC track championships in Newport in 3 weeks time are now in the sights.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,256 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    ....last weekend in Newport

    1st up the sprint. Time was a pretty poor 14.32s making me slowest in my age category and ensuring rapid exit after the first round and reperchage. Then it was the points race - 10km with sprints every 10 laps

    The race started with 15 participants. I stayed with the group, albeit once or twice having to close gaps, until the 1st sprint. I was trailing at the back and the 3 leaders pulled up after the sprint. They didn't look properly and forced another rider higher up the track. There was yet another rider outside all of them and as we came into the back straight he lost control as he was forced up to the fence. It all unfurled about 10m in front of me and initially there was a feeling of panic. The rider came off and quickly slipped down the track bringing down a couple of other riders. Unfortunately it was the shallowest part of the track and his bike was slower coming down. I was high enough up to miss it all but there was carnage as other riders crashed into his bike. One guy was very seriously injured and there was a 90 minute wait as he was attended to on the inside of the track before the ambulance eventually arrived to take him to hospital. Alas it all brought back bad feelings for me particularly as head injuries and a broken jaw was mentioned along with other possible fractures to his ribs. News the following day was not as bad as I had feared and hopefully he'll make a full and rapid recovery.

    The race restarted but there were only 10 of us left in and I focussed pretty much on self preservation. We received a lecture from the commissaire after the event as one or two riders were still being a bit reckless in not looking before changing line.

    Got dropped a few laps before the penultimate sprint but got back on as the eased up after it. Think I finished 8th, but most importantly in one piece.

    Sunday started with the pursuit. Wasn't feeling too good probably an accumulation of an unhealthy environment at the London 6 Day on Thursday and a very warm and close atmosphere within the Velodrome on Saturday. Sinus problems were not helping and I was pretty bunged up that morning. Anyway I was always wanting to do the pursuit and TT as they were solo events. Had geared down for the pursuit and managed my pacing a lot better then normal. However I still felt quite fresh at the end and could have gone a lot harder. Was certainly disappointed with my time which was just shy of 2m 50s as I'd been hoping to knock 10s off that. However I did seem to be suffering from a bit of a head cold and guess I can't complain too much about the time.

    Stayed with the same setup for the TT and again was a bit disappointed not to go a bit faster than the 43s or so that I recorded. However my power records were half decent and I seem to have lost a bit of time in both standing starts (which were held rather than out of starting gates)

    I then packed up and headed back for the evening ferry as I really didn't fancy the scratch race given the events in the points race and the way I was feeling.

    Still have another LVRC event planned for Derby in 3 weeks, then in for the sinus op the following week. Went to see the shoulder specialist this morning and am now also booked in for some keyhole surgery at the end of January. 2 lots of surgery will certainly curtail my winter training but with the World track masters moving to LA next year I think I will be prioritising the GBR Masters and IVCA and LVRC championships all of which take place from the end of June onwards. Hopefully I'll have time to regain racing fitness by then.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,256 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Tomorrow I was hoping to be racing at 45+km/h at Derby Velodrome

    Today I could not make 0.5km/h on my feet

    Back has gone and racing season is over

    Was heading to physio for treatment to the whiplash injury on Weds. As I got out of the chair I felt my back go on the other side to the one needing treatment. Had the new issue treated instead. Travelled over on the ferry yesterday morning and I was suffering a bit. After a 3,5 hour drive to Nottingham I could not get out of the car. Writing this whilst kneeling on the floor at the hotel, wondering how I'm going to get back for the nose job next Thursday.....


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,256 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    So the disappointment of not racing today adds to a number of other disappointments and missed targets during the year. After a promising start things went downhill half-way through the year at the GBR Track Masters. I really thought this was going to be the "comeback" year, but continuing physical issues (affecting eyes, ears, sinuses, shoulders and back/sciatica - even recently succumbed to a black big toenail!!) suggest otherwise. I'll probably get on the Wattbike ahead of the sinus surgery next week if the back eases, then once over that operation I'll try and get some base miles in ahead of the shoulder operation at the end of January.

    That all means a bit of a late start to next season which is probably not a bad thing. There will be no World Track Masters for me in 2017, but my season is still largely back-loaded with the GBR Masters in late June/early July, IVCA Champs probably in September and the LVRC Champs in October. Hopefully I'll be firing on all cylinders by the time these events crop up.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,256 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    So last Thursday I was in hospital for an operation to clear out my sinuses. I had a pretty good idea what to expect as I've had 2 similar operations in the past, although the last time was over 9 years ago.

    Although it was not a particularly painful operation I knew it was going to be unpleasant. In fact I was taken aback by how hard this operation has hit me. I felt OK on coming out of the anaesthetic. However there was a lot more bleeding than I had experienced previously and the packing that was placed into my nostrils was very uncomfortable until it was removed on Friday.

    The specialist advised me the operation had been a little more involved than I had encountered previously and apparently he had to remove some bone as well as all the polyps clogging up my sinuses.

    Since getting out of hospital on Friday lunchtime I've continued to feel quite uncomfortable and not feeling like any cycling. I did manage to get onto the Wattbike for 30 minutes today. It was between zones 1 or 2 in terms of power output, but my HR was probably a couple of zones higher.

    I'm not going to be able to get out into the road for a while yet, so the focus when I can do some training it's likely to be on the WB.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,429 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Did the specialist advise you that feeling like this was too be expected or will you have to pop back in?


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,256 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    There was bound to be some recovery period - that's why I'm signed off work. Just previously I've tended to get back into things a lot quicker (and certainly quicker than I see others recover from operations, but I have had quite a bit of practice!). Of course there are additional factors at play, including my wider health situation, the fact he did end up doing quite a bit more than previously, and, I guess, age....

    I've a follow-up in January, but unless things deteriorate I'm not planning on getting to see him any sooner. In the meantime I simply continue to cough, sneeze and spit blood!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,667 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    You're getting old Beasty, time to take up golf .....




    (only joking !!)


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,256 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    .... says Balrothery's very own Donald Trump wannabee


    :pac:


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,667 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    Thats Kuotobia you're thinking of ;)


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,256 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Think he would have made some effort with his hair if he had such ambitions (yours almost looks a bit too "genuine" mind)


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,256 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Did another WB session a week after the operation, but that made me realise I really wasn't ready for anything strenuous. Indeed when I got back to work a couple of weeks ago I was simply not up to anything when I got home each evening. So it was not until earlier this week that I managed to get back onto the WB, with a couple of 30 minute sessions.

    Today I got out on the road for the first time since the sinus operation. I was noticing my breathing more than usual, but that was probably because I was trying to breath through my nose more. I'm clearly still quite congested though and it didn't feel much, if any, better than it had before the operation. I'm sure it will continue to improve though

    Whilst I've been off the road bike I had noticed the shoulder was not as troublesome as previously. I was wondering if it was actually starting to improve. Any hopes on that front were dashed today as it became quite uncomfortable perhaps 10 minutes in. I had to rest the right arm regularly during the ride, and the shoulder was noticeably worse than it has been. I guess it confirms I've made the right decision to try and get that sorted next month

    Then there's the eyes - they have been bothering me for some time now and I saw the specialist early in November. I was not due to head back until February but due to increased instances of "floaters" I had to pay another visit to the specialist last week. He said everything's OK at present but it's a "dynamic" situation so I would need to head back before the next appointment in February if I encounter more problems.

    Hence there remain a number of health issues I need to be conscious of, and it's a matter of trying to tick over for now - certainly until after the shoulder operation.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,429 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    What are the reasons given for the "floaters". I know they are common, i used to get them when I was younger, just interested in why they are there for some people. Is it something shaven from the inside of the eye?


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,256 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Had a few after the big accident, but they had settled down then became much more active after the guy rammed into the back of my car in August

    Had a detached retina over 30 years ago. They can be caused by bits of the retinal wall coming away and creating a tear as it tugs at the retina. That tear can then grow resulting in the retina coming away from the wall of the eye.

    Back in September they found a retinal tear (the other eye to the one suffering the detachment). I suspect that was caused by a piece of the retinal wall coming away and tugging at the retinal wall. They did urgent laser surgery to try and seal it there and then, but had to do a bit more a month later as it had not fully sealed. It's possible that the laser surgery disturbed more stuff and I've noticed a few more floaters in that eye since then. However a couple of days before I saw the specialist in November I noticed a very large floater in the eye that suffered the original detachment. Since then I've notice much more "activity" in the field of vision in both eyes. Partly it's a "sweeping" motion which may indicate something that's still attached to the retinal wall, and if it comes away could potentially cause another tear

    The other factor is age, and these things are much more common as you get older. Clearly though the amount of trauma my head has suffered over the past 3 years has not helped


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,256 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Not been on the road since that last update, but that's largely been down to back problems which are simply not clearing up. Have done a few WattBike sessions and have also done a couple of track sessions in Manchester. One of those was some formal training with the LVRC.

    Then yesterday it was into the Sports Surgery Clinic in Santry to get my shoulder sorted out. Was supposed to be out yesterday evening but they kept me in overnight after a couple of complications, although the procedure on the shoulder seems to have gone well

    Don't think I'll be able to get out on the road for a few weeks now, although I'm hoping I may be able to get on the WattBike in another week or so. The main issue there though is holding onto the bars puts pressure on the shoulder and sitting upright gives me back pain. Hopefully things will settle down a bit over the next few days.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,667 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    Get the rehab done right Beasty and you will be better in the long run. Would you consider some light mtb round Ardgillan (not even remotely technical) even on your old hybrid as part of that??
    Position may allow easier return to cycling??


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,256 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    One of the "complications" following the shoulder surgery resulted in an MRI scan of the full spine last week. Got the results today. Slipped disc. It's something I'm all too aware of having had surgery on similar problems 4 times in the past. The symptoms are not as bad this time, although the sciatica I am feeling is something I've not experienced to this extent for 15 years or so. What particularly concerns me is how this may be exacerbated should/when I get the next back spasm. So it will be off to an orthopaedic specialist to check the back out. I suspect this was triggered by the RTA 6 months ago which has resulted in me compensating for new injuries in a way that's triggered this.

    I had been expecting this when I had a look at the scan myself last week. It was also clear that there is now quite a lot of curvature in the spine, which eventually evens itself out with a clear tilt in my neck. That neck tilt only became apparent after the cycling accident 3 years ago and I suspect all these latest issues have their roots in that accident.

    The good news is the shoulder has progressed much faster than I expected and my follow up with that specialist went very well at the end of last week. I had thought it could be another month but I am now at least allowed back on the road, albeit not putting any hard sessions in for a while. I managed to get out for a short spin over the weekend and I've also been ticking over on the WattBike

    Next up it's another trip to the eye specialist on Wednesday....


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,667 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    Certainly keeping the Irish medical system in business Beasty !
    Hope all goes well
    Rob


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  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,256 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    RobFowl wrote: »
    Certainly keeping the Irish medical system in business Beasty !
    Think they saw me coming.....


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