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Best ways we can deal with Antisocial Behaviour

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  • 02-10-2020 8:28am
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    Valresnick
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    Seems to be on the rise, or else it’s just media reporting on it more often. Check Dublinlive for an example, each day there are stories of roaming gangs running amok in Dublin.

    So what’s the solution ? Is it time the state intervened and perhaps made young teens do a years military service or volunteer work etc, or have we gone so soft that we should just leave them alone in case we upset them ?


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    J_M_G
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    Start with allowing people to notice patterns about the racial makeup of such groups. But don't count on the media to do that, they are as complicit as the government in trying to silence any pattern noticing.


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    timmyntc
    Registered Users Posts: 6,798 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Bring back non-life threatening beatings by the police.


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    mr_fegelien
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭mr_fegelien


    Hire the Gardai from retired American police officers.


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    endacl
    Registered Users Posts: 22,231 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    mr_fegelien wrote: »
    Hire the Gardai from retired American police officers.

    Oh. Not permanent.

    :(


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    Vieira82
    Closed Accounts Posts: 333 ✭✭Vieira82


    J_M_G wrote: »
    Start with allowing people to notice patterns about the racial makeup of such groups. But don't count on the media to do that, they are as complicit as the government in trying to silence any pattern noticing.

    oh you mean they are all young irish lads screaming at brazilians and spanish to speak English when they can't utter one single word of Irish? yep! 100%!


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    Atlantic Dawn
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    Simply fine their parents every time until they have only enough money to sustain a diet of bread and water.


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    flogen
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭flogen


    This isn’t a news/media discussion. Moved to AH.


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    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users Posts: 13,735 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Don't look at Dublinlive for starters.
    Also we wont deal with it, it has always been like this in Ireland regarding anti-social behaviour. Nothing is done, something really unspeakably bad happens from time to time, everyone is appalled, and then life goes on.


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    Feisar
    Registered Users Posts: 6,597 ✭✭✭Feisar


    Ring up Rentokill, ask how they deal with vermin. Implement those procedures.

    First they came for the socialists...



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    Deebles McBeebles
    Registered Users Posts: 5,748 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    J_M_G wrote: »
    Start with allowing people to notice patterns about the racial makeup of such groups. But don't count on the media to do that, they are as complicit as the government in trying to silence any pattern noticing.

    Yeah those groups of mainly white teenagers are a scourge to be fair. At least they integrate their new Irish friends in though. Would be worse if they were racist.


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    AndyBoBandy
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 14,891 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Stop the parents Social Welfare/Dole/Benefits.

    95% of the problem stops overnight.

    Kids are kept in line.


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    ThewhiteJesus
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭ThewhiteJesus


    timmyntc wrote: »
    Bring back non-life threatening beatings by the police.

    that never stopped


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    tastyt
    Registered Users Posts: 2,017 ✭✭✭tastyt


    Build more prisons

    Don’t have scrotes with 50 convictions roaming the streets

    Stop the bleeding heart / let’s help these poor unfortunates approach and get tough on crime and anti social behaviour

    If they have no fear or respect for the guards or the law do you honestly think they will have any respect for the rest of us ?


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    Temptamperu
    Registered Users Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    AndyBoBandy wrote: »
    Stop the parents Social Welfare/Dole/Benefits.

    95% of the problem stops overnight.

    Kids are kept in line.

    And what about the ones whos parents aren't on Social Welfare?


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    AndyBoBandy
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    Temptamperu wrote: »
    And what about the ones whos parents aren't on Social Welfare?

    I'm guessing a very small minority. So their parents get fined, and if needs be, fines are deducted by Revenue.ie.

    Problem is now 100% solved.

    You're Welcome.


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    Feisar
    Registered Users Posts: 6,597 ✭✭✭Feisar


    AndyBoBandy wrote: »
    I'm guessing a very small minority. So their parents get fined, and if needs be, fines are deducted by Revenue.ie.

    Problem is now 100% solved.

    You're Welcome.

    Crime would go through the roof. The doll is money we pay to keep them out of our lives for the most part and semi sedated on Dutch Gold and Johnny Blues.

    First they came for the socialists...



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    brevity
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    Consequences for their actions and their parents inaction.


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    LuasSimon
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    Get some judges who understand the impact of anti social behaviour - crime-drugs have on the towns and villages of Ireland .


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    #20
    JohnnyFlash
    Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Right wing paramilitary death squads.


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    AndyBoBandy
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    Feisar wrote: »
    Crime would go through the roof. The doll is money we pay to keep them out of our lives for the most part and semi sedated on Dutch Gold and Johnny Blues.

    The money the state saves in not paying scratcher, and any fines received goes towards increased policing, and building more prisons...

    no better way to keep them out of your life by them being locked up!


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    #22
    LuasSimon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭LuasSimon


    Stop child benefit after 6 children .


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    celticWario
    Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭celticWario


    There's no facilities, build more facilities and that will fix everything.


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    freshpopcorn
    Registered Users Posts: 30,183 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    First offense your parents receive a fine that has to be paid and if it’s not paid in X Amount of time you’ll be sent you youth detention.
    Social workers will become involved to check on your home setting and what maybe causing you issues.
    Second offense larger fine and some type of community work and if not paid you’ll be sent to youth detention.
    Third offense Youth Detention Center. No piercing, basic haircut, no designer clothes.
    Good food provided, general life lessons.
    You’ll attend class which will prepare you for your Junior Cert or Leaving Cert.(They maybe more of a focus on vocational subjects).
    You’d have your uniform and very basic casual clothes.
    Visits with family once every two weeks.
    If you make good progress you’ll be allowed weekend visits home, clothes, more privileges and maybe even back home full time if you appear to have changed.

    If there was the money their of course!


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    c.p.w.g.w
    Registered Users Posts: 4,994 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    LuasSimon wrote: »
    Stop child benefit after 6 children .

    After 2 children


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    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users Posts: 13,735 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    AndyBoBandy wrote: »
    Stop the parents Social Welfare/Dole/Benefits.

    95% of the problem stops overnight.

    Kids are kept in line.

    It would make things worse


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    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users Posts: 13,735 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    c.p.w.g.w wrote: »
    After 2 children

    That isn't fair on the kids though, they didn't ask to be born


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    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users Posts: 13,735 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    AndyBoBandy wrote: »
    I'm guessing a very small minority. So their parents get fined, and if needs be, fines are deducted by Revenue.ie.

    Problem is now 100% solved.

    You're Welcome.

    You'd be surprised. Most of the absolute scumbags where I grew up had at least one parent working, even in places like Darndale most people there are working. I mean they're not doctors and solicitors but they're doing something. I think this idea that all scumbags have waster dole parents isn't true at all.


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    nthclare
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    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    You'd be surprised. Most of the absolute scumbags where I grew up had at least one parent working, even in places like Darndale most people there are working. I mean they're not doctors and solicitors but they're doing something. I think this idea that all scumbags have waster dole parents isn't true at all.

    Absolutely true, and in a lot of cases the biggest scumbag s are from affluent backgrounds, I knew doctors, teachers and Company managers owners sons in secondary school and they were right delinquents and the teachers let them off with a lot of things.
    And the guards would drop them home pissed to their parents houses and be apologetic to the parents rather than sugget there's bad parenting going on..

    The working class parents would ground their kids, while the middle class parents would ground the school teachers or guards if they could...

    It's was pure parochial shlt, Kevin could have burnt down half a forest but, how dare the guards suggest he did it, and the smell campfire and melted LA gear runners on the pr1ck and his white guns n 'roses t-shirt smokey white :D


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    AndyBoBandy
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 14,891 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    You'd be surprised. Most of the absolute scumbags where I grew up had at least one parent working, even in places like Darndale most people there are working. I mean they're not doctors and solicitors but they're doing something. I think this idea that all scumbags have waster dole parents isn't true at all.

    So then the fines are deducted by revenue from the working parents wages.

    and/or Children's Allowance is cut/stopped.


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    AllForIt
    Registered Users Posts: 8,269 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    LuasSimon wrote: »
    Stop child benefit after 6 children .

    You mean 2 children


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