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02-09-2015, 10:58   #31
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It isn't that simple. We can't ban someone simply for expressing an opinion barring racism, homophobia, etc. All we mods do is enforce the charter. Beyond that, it's up to the posters.

I've only just started moderating Politics and its associated subforums. I don't have a huge amount of experience with the Northern Ireland forum but, like the marriage referendum it's a topic which is very emotional for some people. If you do see something that you feel breaches the charter, please do report it. It makes things easier for us and alerts us immediately when there is a problem.
Where did I suggest banning people for an opinion??

Im talking about taking a stricter view of things that are clearly not discussion. Deliberate attempts to wind up, insults, accusations that others are "bots" etc... basically all the stuff that takes the debate off into trench warfare territory.
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Where did I suggest banning people for an opinion??

Im talking about taking a stricter view of things that are clearly not discussion. Deliberate attempts to wind up, insults, accusations that others are "bots" etc... basically all the stuff that takes the debate off into trench warfare territory.
Threads on NI typically don't fall into the trench warfare mindset - they begin there. Its not as if someone opens a topic on British collusion with loyalist terrorist groups for a broad, interesting debate and exchange of ideas and examination of evidence. They're begun to open up a new front in the trench warfare to exchange the same windups, insults, accusations that others are "bots" etc.

That's fine, but in my opinion the NI forum was useful in that it created a "Thunderdome" arena for it. It also protected the involved posters by giving scope for a separate charter that allowed for the more bitter clashes between posters on those topics. If you're going to merge the NI threads back into the wider politics forum one of two things are going to happen: the "trench warfare" of the NI threads will set the tone for the rest of the forum, or the posters most interested in discussing NI topics will pick up a lot of bans and cards, feeding a persecution complex that is already rampant.

Though with the Politics Cafe now existing, its possible that the trench warfare will simply move to that arena instead, if it hasn't already.
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28-09-2015, 12:29   #35
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It's been 2 weeks since I last posted but I just wanted to let everyone know that while there has been no news on this, we will update this thread as soon as we receive any.

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Threads on NI typically don't fall into the trench warfare mindset - they begin there. Its not as if someone opens a topic on British collusion with loyalist terrorist groups for a broad, interesting debate and exchange of ideas and examination of evidence. They're begun to open up a new front in the trench warfare to exchange the same windups, insults, accusations that others are "bots" etc.

That's fine, but in my opinion the NI forum was useful in that it created a "Thunderdome" arena for it. It also protected the involved posters by giving scope for a separate charter that allowed for the more bitter clashes between posters on those topics. If you're going to merge the NI threads back into the wider politics forum one of two things are going to happen: the "trench warfare" of the NI threads will set the tone for the rest of the forum, or the posters most interested in discussing NI topics will pick up a lot of bans and cards, feeding a persecution complex that is already rampant.

Though with the Politics Cafe now existing, its possible that the trench warfare will simply move to that arena instead, if it hasn't already.
The cafe is a disaster because of a handful of posters who have no desire to debate or discuss and are simply there to hurl insults. That's why discussion on the north (which generally encompasses all-Ireland issues, there are very few northern only issues) should be brought back into the main politics thread, where it can be properly moderated.

The "thunderdome" idea is bullshit. Moderate a thread properly to stop it from descending into that nonsense. If there's a topic you have no interest in simply dont click on it. I dont see how it's going to contaminate the rest of the forum.

The northern sub forum is wrong for two reasons. Firstly, it makes no sense as it is comprised mainly of all-Ireland issues.
Secondly, the entire vibe of it is "piss off nordie scum, this forum is for real politics." I mean if youre concerned about people developing a persecution complex there's your number one cause there
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As folk will have noticed the descriptions of each of the Politics forums have been updated.
We intend all going well to roll out the new Politics forum tomorrow with tagging.

Please note - if successful - if you are following Politics (General) or any of the Sub-Fora you will need to add a FOLLOW to the new forum once it's released.
Not all threads will be moved over, just the current active ones as they have to be re-tagged. But please do work with your mod team here if there is a thread you need and they will do all they can to help you out.

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Forum move/merge has completed.
Any issues please contact your mod team or report the post in question.

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URL for New Politics is here:
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