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14-05-2021, 14:41   #241
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Cheers. Any indications of what working arrangements are going to be like post-Covid? Will WFH become more the norm rather than the exception?
Completely dependants on the company, my own company are happy with WFH but the company I worded for before are eager to get everyone back to the office.

Remember also, there is the option now where you can request to WFH partially and your employer will have to set out why you can't do your role remotely.
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Find the EI survey good

To counter the above, I'm finding the opposite. There is massive churn the last month or so. Big money offers all of a sudden

Companies do have cashflow issues (hence pension stoppage etc) but the short term outlook is very positive and staff retention is difficult
That's good, I haven't been keeping my ear to the ground as I'm relatively specialised but good that things are picking up. It was quite frustrating to be busy as ever but companies moaning about wages etc
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This exactly sums up a family member of mine. He is on 55K

One of the problems in Ireland is the attitude of not talking to each other about salary.

If everyone communicated and knew what everyone else was making then it empowers everyone when it comes to salary negotiation.
He is being pretty badly shafted there, he should shop around asap.
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He is being pretty badly shafted there, he should shop around asap.
Interesting, I'll put this to him and see what he says.

What would be the expectation for someone of that level? Given he has 10 years experience and is chartered with ICE.
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It's not really black and white.......... if he's on €55k and the location suits and he's not doing much over 40 hours/week that might well be preferable to getting €65k somewhere else where the above 40 hours/week expectation is significantly more.

All considered though €55k isn't great for his experience IMO.
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It's not really black and white.......... if he's on €55k and the location suits and he's not doing much over 40 hours/week that might well be preferable to getting €65k somewhere else where the above 40 hours/week expectation is significantly more.

All considered though €55k isn't great for his experience IMO.
He's still underpaid, the company don't factor in how close he lives to the office on their salary calculations.

The only thing is, as its hard enough for us to know well we're being paid ATM, it's also quite difficult for companies to keep tab as to how well they stack up.

I know when I got an much better offer and moved jobs, many of my previous peers got a decent increase
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He's still underpaid, the company don't factor in how close he lives to the office on their salary calculations.

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Indeed, I did say .....

All considered though €55k isn't great for his experience IMO.
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17-05-2021, 10:24   #248
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Clearly I'm underpaid going by the comments above, but then I'm balancing that against short commute, a company with great flexibility and other benefits like a good pension set up and annual leave and that.For the time of life that I'm at with small kids etc., I'm going to stick with it. Not much choice really.



As regards the future for WFH for us, they are looking at an entitlement of a maximum of 3 days per week from home for everybody. Now the way our place is set up, we are spread across a few locations, so it does suit in a way. How the IT systems in the office, or the desk set-up will work though, I'm not sure.
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Clearly I'm underpaid going by the comments above, but then I'm balancing that against short commute, a company with great flexibility and other benefits like a good pension set up and annual leave and that................
All the things you list are significant IMO.
€10k extra salary is less than €5k/extra into the pocket ............ is €100 ish/week worth 2 hours extra in the car etc etc etc

And I'm fond of my few €.
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Exactly, you do come to realise it's not just all about the gross amount you get paid.
Obviously - within reason, now.
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