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05-11-2018, 17:27   #16
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Usual thoughts apply, considerations like rent, rates, insurance, maintenance of premises, maintenance of hardware, overheads like employees/advertising/promotion/purchases, and so forth...mean to even break even and keep the doors open and lights on, the place has got to turn over some funds...and probably would run at a loss for the early stage meaning there'd need to be some capital there to leech from.

After watching the below video just there, I wondered why stop at just Arcade machines? It absolutely should have a selection of pins...but also a stretch of crts and old consoles wouldn't go amiss either. Two of everything (Steve Style), x2 Amiga's, x2 C64's, x2 Spectrums, x2 Amstrads, x2 NES's, x2 Snes's, and so forth....bring people right back to their youth, not only via cabs, but by consoles and computers too. Such wouldn't cost as much as cabs, have Everdrive's in everything...and give it a real cheesy 90's name like Xenon Palace or something Sounds like a place I'd want to be a member of and drop some coin in.

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As said earlier Andy already had a pretty massive collection of cabs ,hence ac came about in a way. Also wasn't there a small bit of resentment for a time as he was buying up all the cheap cabs ,The greater good shows now but people didn't always see it that way.

Location wise it would have to be somewhere near Dublin unless you where getting it for nowt.

You could do this if it was managed it cleverly though, and research what games would get the people in at the start ,1-2 "marquee" games / cabs and some very good fillers to draw people in and back. It doesn't need a huge selection a lot of Dutch and Nordic guys have done this.

A container of candies would still need a nice chunk of change to bring in and depending where they are coming from some work. I've not seen a container come in yet that I remember that didn't have some loss 2-3 cabs as well as some absolute mingers.

I admire your enthusiasm though!!!!

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Back a few years ago there was a shumps club in belfast.
the east belfast shooting club...........
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I guess most people have pointed out the various issues.

Location would determine a lot, somewhere with a lot of footfall will get the casuals in for 30mins/1hr but cost a fortune, for cheaper locations out of town if people have to drive or spend time getting there, then is a 1/2 or full day out so food and facilities would be needed.

Also, security would be needed, far to many scoobies going around these days and an arcade is guaranteed to attract them.
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Back a few years ago there was a shumps club in belfast.
the east belfast shooting club...........
They haven't gone away you know..
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I guess most people have pointed out the various issues.

Location would determine a lot, somewhere with a lot of footfall will get the casuals in for 30mins/1hr but cost a fortune, for cheaper locations out of town if people have to drive or spend time getting there, then is a 1/2 or full day out so food and facilities would be needed.

Also, security would be needed, far to many scoobies going around these days and an arcade is guaranteed to attract them.
Yep - and there is always the possibility of fights etc if there is drink available, so security is a must
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There's no point even thinking about the public and booze this early on as then you're talking about an alcohol license as well as public liability insurance which would cost a fortune.

If someone could find a good venue that they're willing to rent, get a load of cabs into and have some private invite only evenings to see if it can even maybe cover costs..

Only then would you consider opening to the public if it worked and even later than that booze licenses etc as that's a huge gamble given the price.
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Its an intriguing idea, not only are us irish a lazy bunch we are also quite stingy.
Even in likes of Token or Barcadia, folks dont like playing for tokens and loads of machines are needless Idle.
Barcadia would be great if you buy a pint you get 5-10 tokens, but no you need to buy food deal for 20e.
I myself am guilty as I find it hard to throw money into a cab at an arcade when I have most games in my own home, same goes for folks with 1 or more cabs at home.

But we no problem paying once off fee, so maybe 10e on the day fee for non-members, whereas members pay a yearly subscription and everything is on free play? Least then you have a regular guaranteed income to use and people more likely to turn up lime *cough* gym memberships folks do

That YT video of Arcade Club was nicely put together. Thanks for the share guys.

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Its an intriguing idea, not only are us irish a lazy bunch we are also quite stingy.
Even in likes of Token or Barcadia, folks dont like playing for tokens and loads of machines are needless Idle.
Barcadia would be great if you buy a pint you get 5-10 tokens, but no you need to buy food deal for 20e.
I myself am guilty as I find it hard to throw money into a cab at an arcade when I have most games in my own home, same goes for folks with 1 or more cabs at home.

But we no problem paying once off fee, so maybe 10e on the day fee for non-members, whereas members pay a yearly subscription and everything is on free play? Least then you have a regular guaranteed income to use and people more likely to turn up lime *cough* gym memberships folks do

That YT video of Arcade Club was nicely put together. Thanks for the share guys.
You could just start charging us into your house, it's basically the Irish Arcade club
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You could just start charging us into your house, it's basically the Irish Arcade club
Cathal only if you stop buying them and taking my babies away from me 😀 I'll do Cork Irish Arcade Club Branch! It be no Savoy Arcade replacement thou.
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It's a good idea to open a retro arcade in Ireland.
First you will need a permit that will cost €100.
Then you will need a gaming licence for each machine that will cost €125 per machine.
The license will also have to be displayed on the machine.
Some people I met thought it was only for fruits, pokers etc...
But unfortunately it has to be bought for any gaming machine.
Except pool tables.
In conclusion, it can be very costly to get started, what with renting a premises, electric, insurance and not forgetting (if you're not in the knowhow)
Hiring a service engineer.
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If it was a single pay in price at the door and the games were freeplay would a licence be needed per machine ?
Edit - it's actually here: https://www.revenue.ie/en/companies-...t-machine.aspx

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A machine is an amusement machine if all of the following apply:

it is constructed or adapted for playing of a game
the player pays to play the machine whether by insertion of a coin, token or any other way
the outcome of the game is determined by the action of the machine whether or not provision is made for manipulation of the machine by the player and it affords the player:
no more than an opportunity to play again
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the opportunity to obtain a non-monetary prize which, if available for purchase, would not normally exceed €7 in value.
So you could argue the machines are free and the entrance fee is a cover charge for the "club" perhaps ?
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It's good to have a mini conversation here as a start point, good points about everything. And curious about whether the licensing thing is true in every circumstance, as posted above.
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I think the idea of a private club will get around the license/machine, the entrance fee is for the upkeep of the premises, etc
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Don't remember seeing a license on the cabs in Token.
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