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Do you trust Bill Gates?
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Zoie Billions Soda wrote: »He's on the cusp of more wealth (and control), has a shed load of technology health patents and technology platforms (he's actually a nerdy technologist at heart, not anything else), that are not only invasive, but could be a bigger earner than Windows, in the longer term.
Are you trying to suggest this man is giving away all this money to earn more money for himself?0 -
Can anyone explain what the conspiracy is here?
All this vague hinting with nothing of substance. What specific nefarious deed is Mr Gates pulling off right now?0 -
Can anyone explain what the conspiracy is here?
All this vague hinting with nothing of substance. What specific nefarious deed is Mr Gates pulling off right now?
Since this population control thing went on, 1.5 billion people were added to earth's population. He seems to be doing a very bad job0 -
Imagine being Bill Gates right now?
You spend 30 years of your life and $50 billion of your own dollars supporting humanitarian causes. You directly save hundreds of thousands of lives in South East Asia by providing anti-malaria netting to half of a continent, you drop infant mortality rates throughout the entire developing world by funding vaccine programs including vaccinating 40000000 children for polio, and, amongst a plethora of philanthropic endeavors, you fund free educational platforms like Khan Academy so people can have free access to high-quality education.
Then after donating half of your wealth to charity and pledging 90% of the remainder to charity in your will..
Arguably doing more to better life on earth for humanity than any other human being to ever live.
You then hop on the internet only to find a million scientifically illiterate imbeciles that are using the very computers you pretty much invented in the first place to call you a child-murdering arch-villain antichrist because they watched a YouTube video made by some other yokel with the comprehension of a potato.
(found this post online, couldn't find who the author is)
You would have to wonder if these guys are as alturistic as they seem
Donate stock to your own charity write it off in taxes and still control the stock
Gates, the world’s richest man, donated $4.6 billion worth of shares in Microsoft Corp in June — making this his largest donation in 17 years. Gates donated 64 million shares earlier this summer, according to a Securities & Exchange Commission filing released Monday and first shared by Bloomberg.
The shares account for 5% of Gates’s fortune, and the donation reduced Gates’s stake in Microsoft stock to 1.3%. It is unclear who the recipient of the gift is, but it’s likely it will go to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
https://money.com/bill-gates-donation-4-6-billion/
Donating stock to charity offers a win-win for both you and the organization you’re donating to. A donation of stock allows you to deduct the full market value of the stock from your taxable income. Essentially, you’re taking a capital gain that you would otherwise owe taxes on and converting it into a deduction that will save you taxes on your normal income, so you’re avoiding taxes in two places. And the charity gets a larger donation than they could expect if you had to sell the stock and pay capital gains tax prior to making your donation.
https://www.gobankingrates.com/taxes/deductions/donate-stock-charity-tax-deduction/
The Giving Pledge Is Just A Glorified Tax Break: Critics
The brainchild of Warren Buffett and Bill and Melinda Gates, the Giving Pledge encourages the world’s richest people to pledge a majority of their wealth to charity while they’re still living. The goal is for members to have more control over how their money is distributed, and to motivate others to get involved in philanthropy.
But, after four years, some say that the initiative is more self-congratulatory and self-serving than anything else.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/giving-pledge-critics_n_4776265
Against Big Philanthropy
Philanthropy sounds nice, but it’s still a tax-sheltered way that plutocrats exercise power, says Stanford's Rob Reich.
Then, with money that would have otherwise have gone to the government, where at least there is nominal democratic control over spending priorities, the philanthropists use that money on whatever social purpose they’ve decided to support.
Is this system, as Reich describes it, really one that any democracy would want?
“Instead of extending our enormous gratitude to the greatest philanthropists among us as these icons of civic beneficence, we should be scrutinizing and criticizing them,” Reich said. “Not because philanthropy is necessarily bad, but because it is an exercise of power.”
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/06/against-philanthropy/563834/
More and more wealthy CEOs are pledging to give away parts of their fortunes – often to help fix problems their companies caused. Some call this ‘philanthrocapitalism’, but is it just corporate hypocrisy? By Carl Rhodes and Peter Bloom
In the CEO society, corporate logic such as this rules supreme, and ensures that any activities thought of as generous and socially responsible ultimately have a payoff in terms of self-interest. If there was ever a debate between the ethics of genuine hospitality, reciprocity and self-interest, it is not to be found here. It is in accordance with this CEO logic that the mechanisms for redressing the inequality created through wealth generation are placed in the hands of the wealthy, and in a way that ultimately benefits them. The worst excesses of neoliberal capitalism are morally justified by the actions of the very people who benefit from those excesses. Wealth redistribution is placed in the hands of the wealthy, and social responsibility in the hands of those who have exploited society for personal gain.
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/may/24/the-trouble-with-charitable-billionaires-philanthrocapitalism0 -
You would have to wonder if these guys are as alturistic as they seem
He and Melinda will give away at least 99% of their wealth. Not just dumping it on charities, but making sure it actually does something, like tackling issues of healthcare and poverty at source.
But you seem to be suggesting there's something nefarious going on, what is it exactly?
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Wealth redistribution is placed in the hands of the wealthy, and social responsibility in the hands of those who have exploited society for personal gain.
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/may/24/the-trouble-with-charitable-billionaires-philanthrocapitalism
Huh? How've Warren Buffet and Bill Gates exploited society for personal gain? They ran businesses they built. They employed tens of thousands of people, most of whom were well compensated and contributed, as a result of that compensation, to society's benefit.
FD: Microsoft employee for 10 years. Best employers I ever worked for. Had a couple e-mail conversations with Gates himself.0 -
Both already dripping with obsene levels of personal wealth (Gates already owns a US$147.5 million mansion) but has just bought another $8.7m mansion in Florida last month ...hardly slumming it.Huh? How've Warren Buffet and Bill Gates exploited society for personal gain?
Buffet plays (bets) the stock market, hedge funds and so on. He just lost $21bn Q12020 on bad bets (his equity portfolio is currently in free fall). Most of his gifts/donations were singular and selective, to just to Bill Gates & Co.
Vested interests.FD: Microsoft employee for 10 years. Best employers I ever worked for.
Also a decade with one employer means you lack variety, to compare with.
Windows Vista was vomit, Win10 (like previous) is plagued with security isues, and now has constant updates to resolve this. Has close to zero presence on Mobile where Android & iOS both rule the GUI.
Any view on this years MS Patent?: WO2020060606
https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2020060606
Published March 2020, just 1 week after Gates jumped ship. Maybe the invasive technology embodiments using a user's body (radiation emitted, fluid flow, brain waves, pulse rate or body heat) to create a digital wallet and cryptocurrency (MS Azure Blockchain) system would've left a bad PR taste.
Or Bill's funded Quantum dot tattoo:
https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2019018301A1/en
Another invasive embodiment and data mark (much like a barcode tattoo on the arm) purposed towards (at least) 7bn vaccines, that correlates with MS/Gates other pet project (towards DigitalIDs for everyone on the planet), via id2020.org (his other partners GAVI & Rockerfellas).
Previous to this Gates, had a more sinister actual Chip implant (not just RFID, iRed data marks or passive antennas) that delivered 16yrs worth of hormones, planned for 100m women in Africa, via a remote control luckily it was never realised:
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/architecture-design-blog/2014/jul/11/design-futures-remote-controlled-contraceptive-microchip-launch-by-2018
Transhumanism would be fine and dandy as a gradual evolving event towards 2040/50. However the big push, (conveniently) on the back of COVID, potentially within 9-24mths might need some consideration.0 -
Huh? How've Warren Buffet and Bill Gates exploited society for personal gain? They ran businesses they built. They employed tens of thousands of people, most of whom were well compensated and contributed, as a result of that compensation, to society's benefit.
FD: Microsoft employee for 10 years. Best employers I ever worked for. Had a couple e-mail conversations with Gates himself.
"We are like prisoners," one worker at KYE Factory told the NLC, according to the report. "It seems like we live only to work. We do not work to live. We do not live a life, only work."
That is one of the many statements casting a cloud over Microsoft's labor practices. Microsoft has been outsourcing production to the KYE factory since at least 2003, the NLC found, and the factory often makes peripherals such as mice, keyboards and webcams.
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/290590
https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-slammed-over-child-labor-accusations-2010-4?op=1&r=US&IR=T
And then you have a few old, “good” billionaires who bestow trustworthy, grandfatherly advice, and spread the wisdom of prudent management and boring, reliable investing strategies. But according to a new investigative report, even Warren Buffett, the poster, uh, grandfather for this kind of benevolent magnate doesn’t have the cleanest hands.
“Clayton systematically pursues unwitting minority homebuyers and baits them into costly subprime loans, many of which are doomed to fail,” Mike Baker and Daniel Wagner write. Their alarming piece details practices such as Clayton employees lying about being the only lender on a Navajo reservation — and getting caught on tape telling the falsehood.
The report found that Vanderbilt Mortgage, the lending arm of Clayton, lends with extremely high interest rates for minorities as opposed to their white counterparts. According to Baker and Wagner, “Federal data shows that Vanderbilt typically charges black people who make over $75,000 a year slightly more than white people who make only $35,000.”
https://money.com/warren-buffett-berkshire-hathaway-clayton-homes-scandal/
Apple, Microsoft, Tesla accused of profiting from child labor in cobalt mines
Industry giants fail to tackle child labour allegations in cobalt battery supply chains
No action taken Microsoft - Lenovo - Renault - Vodafone - Huawei - L&F - Tianjin B&M - BYD - Coslight - Shenzhan BAK - ZTE
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2017/11/industry-giants-fail-to-tackle-child-labour-allegations-in-cobalt-battery-supply-chains/
But its not all bad they can go home after a day in the mines to their comfy mosquito net :rolleyes:0 -
Zoie Billions Soda wrote: »Both already dripping with obsene levels of personal wealth (Gates already owns a US$147.5 million mansion) but has just bought another $8.7m mansion in Florida last month ...hardly slumming it.
Buffet plays (bets) the stock market, hedge funds and so on. He just lost $21bn Q12020 on bad bets (his equity portfolio is currently in free fall). Most of his gifts/donations were singular and selective, to just to Bill Gates & Co.
So, where's society being exploited again? It seems like his money, his risk. Don't you wish you could do the same?
Not my first rodeo by far; I had a career I expect you can only dream about.Vested interests.
Also a decade with one employer means you lack variety, to compare with.
Yes, and they're selling lots of product and each year-on-year revenues go up.
Windows Vista was vomit, Win10 (like previous) is plagued with security isues, and now has constant updates to resolve this. Has close to zero presence on Mobile where Android & iOS both rule the GUI.
You're likely typing at a Windows O/S, or your ISP uses one to run its servers, plus any backend databases as well.
We had a discussion about this and as I pointed out, Microsoft has lots of patents. This one seems harmless enough; have you done a study of all patents in this area to understand what MS's competitors might have done at the same time?Any view on this years MS Patent?: WO2020060606
https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2020060606
As was pointed out, you have no idea of Bill Gates's timeline with MS if you think he 'jumped ship' in 2020.Published March 2020, just 1 week after Gates jumped ship. Maybe the invasive technology embodiments using a user's body (radiation emitted, fluid flow, brain waves, pulse rate or body heat) to create a digital wallet and cryptocurrency (MS Azure Blockchain) system would've left a bad PR taste.
Learn to spell Rockefeller, as in Rockefeller University, which I think is what you're ineptly trying to refer to. As I recall you claimed it was all sinister and hidden, yet, you could find it on Google.Or Bill's funded Quantum dot tattoo:
https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2019018301A1/en
Another invasive embodiment and data mark (much like a barcode tattoo on the arm) purposed towards (at least) 7bn vaccines, that correlates with MS/Gates other pet project (towards DigitalIDs for everyone on the planet), via id2020.org (his other partners GAVI & Rockerfellas).Previous to this Gates, had a more sinister actual Chip implant (not just RFID, iRed data marks or passive antennas) that delivered 16yrs worth of hormones, planned for 100m women in Africa, via a remote control luckily it was never realised:
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/architecture-design-blog/2014/jul/11/design-futures-remote-controlled-contraceptive-microchip-launch-by-2018
Transhumanism would be fine and dandy as a gradual evolving event towards 2040/50. However the big push, (conveniently) on the back of COVID, potentially within 9-24mths might need some consideration.
Oh, he's running the Covid outbreak now too? Transhumanism? Someone else pointed out on this thread that actually none of the products you're on about exist. But hey, whatever.0 -
He and Melinda will give away at least 99% of their wealth. Not just dumping it on charities, but making sure it actually does something, like tackling issues of healthcare and poverty at source.
The late Robert W. Wilson, a philanthropist who donated $600 million over the course of his lifetime, expressed this concern when Bill Gates approached him about joining the Pledge.
After Wilson committed suicide last year at age 87, BuzzFeed obtained emails exchanged between him and Gates in 2010.
In one email, Wilson wrote that he was adamantly opposed to joining the Pledge because of a “loophole”:
Your ‘Giving Pledge’ has a loophole that renders it practically worthless, namely permitting pledgees to simply name charities in their wills. I have found that most billionaires or near billionaires hate giving large sums of money away while alive and instead set up family-controlled foundations to do it for them after death. And these foundations become, more often than not, bureaucracy-ridden sluggards.
Other detractors have expressed fear that the Giving Pledge would serve as a tax haven for the wealthy, and a way to set up trusts for their children.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/giving-pledge-critics_n_47762650 -
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Play the lotto now and again, sure. Hedge funds gambling with other's millions, or short selling stocks, nope.So, where's society being exploited again? It seems like his money, his risk. Don't you wish you could do the same?.
Yet you've plenty of time for boards, you should have the head in a nerdy book instead, to keep up with emmerging technologies.Not my first rodeo by far; I had a career I expect you can only dream about.
So you've no comment on the crapfest that is Windows from a user experience view, ah sure as long as they're flogging goods in their reducing marketplace share.Yes, and they're selling lots of product and each year-on-year revenues go up.
Wrong, lolz!You're likely typing at a Windows O/S
That's your view, Gates also has unique access to the MIT team that dreams up thess bodily embodiments. Whataboutery of other's patents does not hold any comparable water. Closest comparison might be Clearview perhaps.We had a discussion about this and as I pointed out, Microsoft has lots of patents. This one seems harmless enough; have you done a study of all patents in this area to understand what MS's competitors might have done at the same time?
He (founder) was on the board at that time, although he left, he still carries influence and claimed will continue to steer the CEO, esp for 'healthcare software' (and implants) of which his interest is via vaccines, e-currency and Digital ID's.As was pointed out, you have no idea of Bill Gates's timeline with MS if you think he 'jumped ship' in 2020.
Rockerfellas is a colloquialism, but you do have to question their involvement with id2020.org, as both founder and funder. A plan to push digital IDs on everyone on the planet, ticks many boxes of curiousity.Learn to spell Rockefeller, as in Rockefeller University, which I think is what you're ineptly trying to refer to. As I recall you claimed it was all sinister and hidden, yet, you could find it on Google.
Are you claiming this? Simply a very convienent opportunity.Oh, he's running the Covid outbreak now too?
Although he ran this exact scenario few months beforehand, like a wet dream.
Look it up in a dictionary, maybe.Transhumanism?
All patented.Someone else pointed out on this thread that actually none of the products you're on about exist. But hey, whatever.
All with proof of concept.
All with (or had) plans for deployment.
https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2019018301A1/en
https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2020060606
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/architecture-design-blog/2014/jul/11/design-futures-remote-controlled-contraceptive-microchip-launch-by-2018
But hey, whatever dude!0 -
Don't go into finance. It won't work for youZoie Billions Soda wrote: »Play the lotto now and again, sure. Hedge funds gambling with other's millions, or short selling stocks, nope.
Helps to be retired for the last 7 years.
Yet you've plenty of time for boards, you should have the head in a nerdy book instead, to keep up with emmerging technologies.
Not on a 'do you trust thread' under the CT forum. Feel free to gripe about Windows on one of the related fora. Let me tell you, when I worked there the griping about that crapfest was WAY worse than you see in RL. But, all software is just bugs at a certain point in their maturity.
So you've no comment on the crapfest that is Windows from a user experience view, ah sure as long as they're flogging goods in their reducing marketplace share.
Unique? And they're the only team working on this bodily control automation?
That's your view, Gates also has unique access to the MIT team that dreams up thess bodily embodiments. Whataboutery of other's patents does not hold any comparable water. Closest comparison might be Clearview perhaps.
One patent out of tens of thousands and he's taking over the world because it sounds catchy. Uhuh.
Same as before - all patented, nothing implemented, nothing happening.All patented.
All with proof of concept.
All with (or had) plans for deployment.
https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2019018301A1/en
https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2020060606
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/architecture-design-blog/2014/jul/11/design-futures-remote-controlled-contraceptive-microchip-launch-by-2018
Absolutely! On this we can agreeBut hey, whatever dude!0 -
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Bill Gates is pushing vaccines on the poor children of the world while hie is increasing his stock in BIG Pharma who will supply the said vaccines. The companies will get paid for the vaccines 1 way or another. Vaccines have some good and some bad like most subjects. There is currently a protest in Africa that they don't want to be test subjects for Bill's Covid 19 vaccine. Not in main stream media but happening !!!!0
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Bill Gates is pushing vaccines on the poor children of the world while hie is increasing his stock in BIG Pharma who will supply the said vaccines. The companies will get paid for the vaccines 1 way or another. Vaccines have some good and some bad like most subjects. There is currently a protest in Africa that they don't want to be test subjects for Bill's Covid 19 vaccine. Not in main stream media but happening !!!!
The Africa protest is something really serious as poor countries were used to test medicamentations . Still for the thread where is the link to conspiracy and gates as he is mainly engaged in very effective and old vaccination like Polio that cost peanuts compared to a high tech medicament that uses stem cell technology.0 -
Bill Gates =one of the best. That's all.0
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Bill Gates is pushing vaccines on the poor children of the world while hie is increasing his stock in BIG Pharma who will supply the said vaccines. The companies will get paid for the vaccines 1 way or another. Vaccines have some good and some bad like most subjects. There is currently a protest in Africa that they don't want to be test subjects for Bill's Covid 19 vaccine. Not in main stream media but happening !!!!
There's so much wrong with this post I don't know where to start.
Gates supports getting vaccines to the poorest, because they don't always have access to them (whereas in wealthier countries do)Vaccines have some good and some bad like most subjects.
No, just no. Vaccines work. There are very isolated cases with individuals and some vaccines, these are exceptions, not systematicThere is currently a protest in Africa that they don't want to be test subjects for Bill's Covid 19 vaccine. Not in main stream media but happening
They aren't the "test subjects". People like Gates want early vaccines to go to the poorest because typically they would be the last to receive them (in the global rush)
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Yea I'd give him a loan of a few quid0
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And your ignoring whats going on in the thread
It's a conspiracy forum, where's the conspiracy? this is just a couple of people trying to attack Bill Gates of all people, which is so bizarre considering he's one of the nicer people out there.
Likewise, I've seen threads with edgelords people attacking David Attenborough (??), same thing as this.0 -
It's a conspiracy forum, where's the conspiracy? this is just a couple of people trying to attack Bill Gates of all people, which is so bizarre considering he's one of the nicer people out there.
Likewise, I've seen threads with edgelords people attacking David Attenborough (??), same thing as this.
On the contrary nice guys dont use child labour to make their products
Or sit on the boards of companys that discriminate against minorities
This from the previous articleA slew of more qualitative problems is detailed as well: employees complaining about institutional misleading of Spanish-speaking borrowers with non-translated documents; a company culture laden with racist comments and insults; and plenty more. All together the Times and Buzzfeed News talked to more than 280 experts, former employees, and customers.
We havent even got into his dealings with the Bonnie and Clyde of charity fraud the Clintons
Ranbaxy (fined 500 million for distrubiting adulterated drugs to poor black people) Gilead sciences.Dr Fauchi ,Dr Brix etc
The swamp has its own corner for drug dealers it seems0 -
https://www.nelp.org/publication/trump-administration-moves-roll-back-child-labor-rules-expose-teen-workers-hazardous-jobs/On the contrary nice guys dont use child labour to make their products
https://www.business-humanrights.org/en/usa-govt-contractors-accused-of-profiting-from-separation-detention-of-migrant-asylum-seeking-families
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_views_of_Donald_Trump#Housing_discrimination_casesOr sit on the boards of companys that discriminate against minorities0 -
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Zoie Billions Soda wrote: »*Topic diversion alert*.
Not really. Just illustrating that there's a bit of a double standard going on.
The things that you cats are accusing Bill Gates of also apply to some one Enno99 claimed was a completely innocent guy "who just did some bad deals".
Trump also had dealings with Epstein.
Trump is also a fan of child labour.
Trump is a massive racist and specifically was on the board of a company that engaged in discrimination.
Yet, these things will no doubt be ignored, because conspiracy theorists have no interest in Trump. For some reason.
Bill Gates however is the subject of strange, ill defined and vague accusations based on very little.
Your bizarre religious based conspiracy theory being a perfect example.0 -
*Obvious whataboutery Trump-hater diversion alert*.Trump also had dealings with Epstein.
Trump is also a fan of child labour.
Trump is a massive racist and specifically was on the board of a company that engaged in discrimination.
The primary concerns of Gates & Co, are related primarily to vaccines, digitial identity programs, invasiave body embodiments, digital cryptocurrency, sinister product patents and associations with others, of obsene wealth and influence all with similar interests.
Anything else is secondary, temporary, and generally thus a diversion.
Oh... and before someone (JohnDoe) asks (yet again) 'So what's the CT?"
Maybe read this thread or other similar ones from page 1 (or even last few pages), before 'playing dumb' and repeating this silly question.0 -
On the contrary nice guys dont use child labour to make their products
Gates has stepped away from MS and the claim itself is a lawsuit against Apple, Google, MS, Dell and Tesla who are indirectly accused of using child labour (via a Cobalt mine in Congo)
It demonstrates you are dredging the internet for anything to attack Gates with for whatever reasons
"I hate X, here's a bunch of indirect negative stuff on the internet"
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But it's not whataboutery. I'm just highlighting the double standard being applied.Zoie Billions Soda wrote: »*Obvious whataboutery Trump-hater diversion alert*.
And not really sure what about posting those links makes me a "Trumphater".
And also not sure why you think the "something-alert" thing is funny or witty.
All of which you guys are misrepresenting on the flimsiest of premises.Zoie Billions Soda wrote: »The primary concerns of Gates & Co, are related primarily to vaccines, digitial identity programs, invasiave body embodiments, digital cryptocurrency, sinister product patents and associations with others, of obsene wealth and influence all with similar interests.
All of which you can't actually detail beyond your vague accusations and insinuations.
And in your case, all of which are based on bizarre fringe religious beliefs that render your claims dismissible on the face of them.0 -
Zoie Billions Soda wrote: »The primary concerns of Gates & Co, are related primarily to vaccines, digitial identity programs, invasiave body embodiments, digital cryptocurrency, sinister product patents and associations with others, of obsene wealth and influence all with similar interests.
These are your personal concerns and those of complete fruitcakes on the internet: people who literally believe he created Coronavirus or that he wants to use vaccines to implant microchips and other whacky conspiracies0 -
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I remember when there used to be actual conspiracies on this forum, now it's just these bizarre and vague muck-flinging exercises0
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