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39 people found dead in trailer in UK

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  • #2
    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    That's terrible - RIP


  • #3
    Boggles
    Registered Users Posts: 39,502 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Horrific.

    Doubt they are Bulgarians.


  • #4
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,122 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Boggles wrote: »
    Horrific.

    Doubt they are Bulgarians.

    yeah that wouldn;t make much sense. they are part of the eu. they could have just got the ferry.


  • #5
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Boggles wrote: »
    Horrific.

    Doubt they are Bulgarians.


    Yeah, it's now "The force said the lorry came from Bulgaria and entered the country via Holyhead on Saturday."


    I'm not up to date on my ports but how can a trailer enter the UK from Bulgaria via Holyhead - I thought that route was Ireland-UK-Ireland only?


  • #6
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    I would hazard a guess they are from further afield than Bulgaria. Christ what a horrible way to end your life.
    RIP to them all.
    People traffickers are scum and should be treated as such. The driver is just the courier.


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  • #7
    Bob Harris
    Registered Users Posts: 3,462 ✭✭✭Bob Harris


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    Yeah, it's now "The force said the lorry came from Bulgaria and entered the country via Holyhead on Saturday."


    I'm not up to date on my ports but how can a trailer enter the UK from Bulgaria via Holyhead - I thought that route was Ireland-UK-Ireland only?

    Could the truck have been in Ireland before entering the Uk?


  • #8
    antix80
    Registered Users Posts: 2,419 ✭✭✭antix80


    Why is it just the lorry driver being arrested? The politicians and authorities are complicit. There would be no demand for illegal ferrying of immigrants if illegals were shipped back rather than being allowed to stay.


  • #9
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    god almighty, horrible stuff


  • #10
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Bob Harris wrote: »
    Could the truck have been in Ireland before entering the Uk?


    That Holyhead bit is confusing me completely


  • #11
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users Posts: 13,727 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    antix80 wrote: »
    Why is it just the lorry driver being arrested? The politicians and authorities are complicit. There would be no demand for illegal ferrying of immigrants if illegals were shipped back rather than being allowed to stay.

    You're naïve to think that. Immigrants are going to keep coming to rich countries to make a better life no matter what, legally or illegally. I doubt any of these people had ambitions of getting UK passports they probably planned working illegally. There's not a lot the Governments can do about that.


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  • #12
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users Posts: 43,024 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    France Rosslare Dublin Holyhead?


  • #13
    jolter
    Registered Users Posts: 96 ✭✭jolter


    Christ that so sad, may they rest in peace


  • #14
    Bob Harris
    Registered Users Posts: 3,462 ✭✭✭Bob Harris


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    That Holyhead bit is confusing me completely

    If it did come from Ireland with the 39 on board there is going to be a right old shítstorm especially with the whole Brexit issue and border control.


  • #15
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    the poor souls could have been come through one of the direct ferries from France.

    There is a very good chance the driver had no idea what was inside.

    terrible tragedy.


  • #16
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users Posts: 43,024 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Aegir wrote: »
    There is a very good chance the driver had no idea what was inside.

    39 people

    doubt it


  • #17
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    France Rosslare Dublin Holyhead?
    Roundabout way and 4 passes through customs/random checks sounds incredibly risky but yes, that is one way.


  • #18
    begsbyOnaTrain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 272 ✭✭begsbyOnaTrain


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    they probably planned working illegally. There's not a lot the Governments can do about that.

    When they try to, the usual types scream bloody murder - https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jul/27/immigration-raid-on-byron-hamburgers-rounds-up-30-workers


  • #19
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users Posts: 43,024 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    Roundabout way and 4 passes through customs/random checks sounds incredibly risky but yes, that is one way.

    Less risky than 6

    Calais Dover Stranraer Larne Dublin Holyhead

    the whole entering Holyhead makes no sense

    have they got that right?


  • #20
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users Posts: 13,727 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    begsbyOnaTrain wrote: »
    When they try to, the usual types scream bloody murder - https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jul/27/immigration-raid-on-byron-hamburgers-rounds-up-30-workers

    When they try to, they can't possible stop people coming illegally, they'll find a way. And they're going to keep coming and tragedies like this may happen. They're still human.


  • #21
    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    There is no difference between this and people drowning on the Mediterranean.

    You have desperate people wanting to make a better life for themselves in Europe.
    You have traffickers offering to ferry them across to the promised land, for money.

    You need to disincentivize the traffickers for this to stop.
    Or better, disincentivize people from wanting to leave their countries in the first place.


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  • #22
    Padraig Mor
    Registered Users Posts: 9,531 ✭✭✭Padraig Mor


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    the whole entering Holyhead makes no sense

    have they got that right?

    I'd say they're damn sure of it. Definitely going to be a Brexit flavoured ****storm. Customs checks on ferries between Ireland and the UK have long been regarded as a joke - this is the punchline.


  • #23
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Those poor people.

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  • #24
    GLaDOS
    Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,199 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Christ what an awful way to go :(

    My sympathy as well for the poor person who discovered it, I imagine that's something that will stay with you for the rest of your days.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • #25
    Das Reich
    Registered Users Posts: 736 ✭✭✭Das Reich


    Unfortunately a very small amount of people make huge profit on the skin of those people like they did during the transatlantic slave trade. People like Macron and countries like France should be responsible for those tragedies as the poorest countries in the world like Birkina Faso, Mali, Niger are still exploited and can't even print their banknotes.


  • #26
    Esse85
    Registered Users Posts: 8,236 ✭✭✭Esse85


    Absolutely horrendous massacre here.

    What an awful tragedy.

    The people responsible need to be identified and punished with maximum force.

    Such a sad loss of life.


  • #27
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    From BBC updates link https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-england-essex-50152633
    "As we know, it is thought that the lorry came from Bulgaria and arrived in Wales, at Holyhead, on Saturday.

    Seamus Leheny, Northern Ireland policy manager for the Freight Transport Association, told the Press Association: "If the lorry came from Bulgaria, getting into Britain via Holyhead is an unorthodox route.

    "People have been saying that security and checks have been increased at places like Dover and Calais, so it might be seen as an easier way to get in by going from Cherbourg or Roscoff, over to Rosslare, then up the road to Dublin.

    "It's a long way around and it'll add an extra day to the journey."


  • #28
    lawred2
    Registered Users Posts: 24,266 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Das Reich wrote: »
    Unfortunately a very small amount of people make huge profit on the skin of those people like they did during the transatlantic slave trade. People like Macron and countries like France should be responsible for those tragedies as the poorest countries in the world like Birkina Faso, Mali, Niger are still exploited and can't even print their banknotes.

    I don't think this is the place for your axe grinding

    Have liberal elites been blamed yet?


  • #29
    lawred2
    Registered Users Posts: 24,266 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    France Rosslare Dublin Holyhead?

    There are easier ways to go get to the UK from mainland Europe surely?


  • #30
    Bob Harris
    Registered Users Posts: 3,462 ✭✭✭Bob Harris


    antix80 wrote: »
    Why is it just the lorry driver being arrested? The politicians and authorities are complicit. There would be no demand for illegal ferrying of immigrants if illegals were shipped back rather than being allowed to stay.
    lawred2 wrote: »
    I don't think this is the place for your axe grinding

    Have liberal elites been blamed yet?

    It would seem so.


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  • #31
    scotchy
    Registered Users Posts: 2,182 ✭✭✭scotchy


    Newstalk saying that the truck traveled via Dublin.

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