Originally Posted by Outlaw Pete
And if Trump said there were no white supremacist groups, that white supremacy was just "an idea" - that'd have been okay?? Come on.
Organized and orchestrated chaos is not an idea. Ideas don't set fire to buildings, loot and throw Molotov cocktails at police. Ideas don't split people's heads open...
Just "an idea"? No, Trump is 100% correct about them and the dangers that they pose to America. Biden downplaying Antifa as just "an idea" is just an attempt to to dilute their actions and make it appear as if the Trump administration are wrong to categorize them as domestic terrorists. He's not and it's just another very good reason that Biden is not fit to be POTUS and Trump should get reelected.
Trump and his ilk are repeatedly suggesting that 'antifa' is a national organisation carrying out an agenda dictated by some central command in league with the democrats.
Its true there are small organised 'chapters' of anti-fascists who form a hardocre of action, but they almost always act locally, and traditionally, the vast majority of their activity involves intelligence, disruption of fascist organising and occasionally physical confrontation of fascists on the street.
What we are seeing now in the protests in various US cities is a loose coalition of left wing activists, BLM and anti racists, black bloc types, and antifascists, the vast majority of whom despise the Democrats and are primarily motivated by the rise in white supremacist and right wing violence in the wake of charlottesville and the ongoing high profile murder of black Americans by Police.
The suggestion that this is some homogenous centralised group attempting to destroy America is a product of demented ultra right conservative propaganda, but there is a simple solution. Antifa and associated groups are reactive. if the threat of fascism and white supremacy diminishes they will cease to be a political force.