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23-05-2021, 22:35   #46
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I'd rather a spicebox than a nose full of coke, a few pints in Dublin than a fortnight in Ibiza and if I was only going down the road for my lunch, a bus pass would be a lot more practical and therefore enjoyable to use for my purposes than a 911. The money would have nothing to do with the decisions I'd make.

People are gas. They can't get their heads around a man not pissing away his money, just, because. Do you think he wasn't happy? If having a big balance in the bank made him happy, would that be okay with ye? Or would he have had to spend it on stuff you want him to spend it on for it to be okay with you?


I know of people who didnt even have an inside toilet or running water but they died leaving hundreds of thousands to some nephew they never saw. it would hardly be pissing your money away to make them changes to your house and have a bit of comfort in your old age.

as for pissing it away, its only money, paper or a number on a screen, it should be used. that old man should have travelled a bit maybe, instead of sponging off his neighbours.

I would hate to think when im gone that people would think of me as a tight miserable man who wouldnt spend christmas. Dont get me wrong I work hard and make money but I dont mind spending it on family and myself, its there to be used.
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He wouldn't pay for his household waste and begged, borrowed and annoyed neighbours for lawnmowers etc., sorry that's negative. Whatever the man or anyone else wants to do with their, that's fair enough, I couldn't care less. It shouldn't be to the detriment of others

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As someone who is very frugal, it warms my heart that there are people like me out there. Granted some things I was reading in the original post about this guy I thought was a bit excessive but I'm sure he enjoyed a simple life and didn't want to throw money away. I would be the exact same and I don't think there's anything wrong with it as long as you don't compromise your life negatively and the exact same can be said on the inverse.

Lucky niece - lets hope he had her nominated as a favoured godchild for tax status!

Op - maybe he liked the sociability and excuse of borrowing the lawnmover - heading down for a chat & then back again. I occasionally borrow tools I have no space to store - and I get his annoyance at being taxed all his life at 42% and now having yo pay stealth taxes to put out bins etc. Gets up my nose too.

Nobody knows how much he had, nor how much he had and spent. For all you know he had another 1.8 m under the bed as button money, or spent or donated online. His cash, his business. Good for him!!!!

BTW if he had needed to go into a private nursing home it would cost him upwards of 3k A WEEK excluding any medical treatment needed. Imagine if you got alzheimers or had a stroke aged 65 & lived til you were 80 or 90. Ten years of nursing home ‘care’ would cost as much almost before they ‘gave’ you fair deal and them took your house and 90% of all your income and remaining savings. The government and HSE have managed to absolve the HSE of the duty or responsibility of providing the medical care to our elderly in Ireland but are throwing medical cards and money at any non working tosser or person landed on these shores - yet take and taxes a working familys lifes savings or house from them if they need sheltered medical care. Sickening. At 3k a week, 52 weeks year, maybe 15 or 20 years nursing home care - and this is on the leftover wages that have already been taxed at 42%
.no wonder they are working to being in elder euthenasia.

Good luck to the man and his niece. I hope she was good to him throughout her life as she was clearly much loved.

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He wouldn't pay for his household waste and begged, borrowed and annoyed neighbours for lawnmowers, sorry that's negative. Whatever the man or anyone else what's to do, that's fair enough, I couldn't care less
Begged and annoyed? I laugh at how some folks don't realise how common it would have been for one neighbour to own the lawnmower, another the clippers/fork/rake, another the wheelbarrow and shovel etc etc down through the years. Where I grew up in Dublin, doing the gardening didn't happen without getting bits and pieces from neighbours. There were the 'blow ins' who had no idea of the arrangements, decades old, who probably looked down their noses on oul' Paddy next door knocking in to Joe to get the hedge clippers, or Joe going to Jack to get the wheelbarrow, or Jack asking young Alan to come in and cut the grass for him as his leg was sore. It was how it worked, in every 'working class' part of Dublin's suburbs. To the casual or ignorant observer, it looks like begging/blagging/annoying, but to the folks who were doing it they just called this being neighbours. The wilful ignorance of so many is hilarious. Clueless, so ye are.
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Begged and annoyed? I laugh at how some folks don't realise how common it would have been for one neighbour to own the lawnmower, another the clippers/fork/rake, another the wheelbarrow and shovel etc etc down through the years. Where I grew up in Dublin, doing the gardening didn't happen without getting bits and pieces from neighbours. There were the 'blow ins' who had no idea of the arrangements, decades old, who probably looked down their noses on oul' Paddy next door knocking in to Joe to get the hedge clippers, or Joe going to Jack to get the wheelbarrow, or Jack asking young Alan to come in and cut the grass for him as his leg was sore. It was how it worked, in every 'working class' part of Dublin's suburbs. To the casual or ignorant observer, it looks like begging/blagging/annoying, but to the folks who were doing it they just called this being neighbours. The wilful ignorance of so many is hilarious. Clueless, so ye are.
you need to chill.. no one is having ago at you.. gee
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Begged and annoyed? I laugh at how some folks don't realise how common it would have been for one neighbour to own the lawnmower, another the clippers/fork/rake, another the wheelbarrow and shovel etc etc down through the years. Where I grew up in Dublin, doing the gardening didn't happen without getting bits and pieces from neighbours. There were the 'blow ins' who had no idea of the arrangements, decades old, who probably looked down their noses on oul' Paddy next door knocking in to Joe to get the hedge clippers, or Joe going to Jack to get the wheelbarrow, or Jack asking young Alan to come in and cut the grass for him as his leg was sore. It was how it worked, in every 'working class' part of Dublin's suburbs. To the casual or ignorant observer, it looks like begging/blagging/annoying, but to the folks who were doing it they just called this being neighbours. The wilful ignorance of so many is hilarious. Clueless, so ye are.
I think you see a bit more of it now that peoples houses are microscopic and often have tiny gardens that you wouldn’t want to use up by having an 8x8 ‘storage’ shed in - probably bigger than the whole garden! (tragically!). I also think ironically its a bit of a status symbol thing to be the go-to man with the gadget! No harm! Less plastic and recycling for the planet.

Lidl middle aisle makes a bit of a mess of this esp with their range of kill me quick chainsaws :0

PS Maybe yer man was good with the occasional flutter or had the magic numbers or was related to Delores or suchlike too!!! You can be frugal and lucky too!!!
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All his life, A Neighbour of mine,a single man was known in the area for being tight ! He never paid for bins, Small bags into street bins. He would borrow everything especially lawnmowers. He had a good job with the ESB down where the chimneys are.
Even when he retired he used his bus pass to go down to his old workplace every lunchtime because the lunch was free. He died 2 years ago and a niece got the lot.
I saw his will recently in the Sunday Indo, Including the house (360k) he left nearly 1.9M ! ! What was the point of his lifelong thrift ? Mental Illness ? Otherwise, What was the point of doing what he did for all my lifetime ?
I could write a book telling you what I would do....Utter Madness
Was two bachelor brothers from down home who had no bathroom and the house was a shack. Basically lived in third world conditions. They would buy land like the bejaysus.

When the last one died the farm went to a nun relation in America (niece I think) and she sold it for 8 million during the boom, bonkers. Worse the church will end up with the money,
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I think you see a bit more of it now that peoples houses are microscopic and often have tiny gardens that you wouldn’t want to use up by having an 8x8 ‘storage’ shed in.....

Lidl middle aisle makes a bit of a mess of this esp with their range of kill me quick chainsaws :0
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. I'm clueless, your hilarious, justifying this man's behaviour. It's this type of attitude why the city centre is literally swimming in crap, it's a major problem

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Was two bachelor brothers from down home who had no bathroom and the house was a shack. Basically lived in third world conditions. They would buy land like the bejaysus.

When the last one died the farm went to a nun relation in America (niece I think) and she sold it for 8 million during the boom, bonkers. Worse the church will end up with the money,
well - they’ll definately have lots of prayers said for them so and be rotates through the pearly gates fairly quick!!

I have to say there’s a difference between being frugal, quirky on what you choose to spend your money on, and downright mean. I cannot abide meanness in a person - never paying their way and scabbing off you - its a most unattractive characteristic and has really made its into Ireland in the past number of years.Varadkad should open his rat on your neighbours line again - nothing worse than dole cheats and so called single mothers working cash in hand and getting all the benefits of someone ‘poor’ and a house thrown in for good luck while hard working committed families pay 42% tax and work day & night. Boils my blood.

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I grew up in a 'working class" part of Dublin.The parents couldn't afford a lawnmower at one stage, they paid someone to do it. Many a time I hand clipped it personally as a child because of it. We had a spade, shovel, fork, brush and bags for everything else. My father didn't go round begging for tools, it was make do with what we had and save and BUY over the years for anything else. I'm clueless, your hilarious, justifying this man's behaviour. It's this type of attitude why the city centre is literally swimming in crap, it's a major problem
Sure half the reason they couldn't afford a lawnmower was because they were paying someone else to cut the grass instead of borrowing a neighbours one while they saved up for their own. Maybe the neighbours wouldn't have lent it to them anyway. "Neither a borrower nor a lender be", doesn't always leave you in a position to ask for something when you need it.
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What I don't understand is why did they keep letting him into the ESB buildings and feeding him lunch at the canteen after he retired?

Also, why does the ESB give free lunches to their workers no place I was in ever did that? I guess that's why our bills are so high!
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People who grew up before the welfare state had to look after themselves and had this attitude to money. They wouldnt expect someone else to look after them either if they ran into bad times.
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People who grew up before the welfare state had to look after themselves and had this attitude to money. They wouldnt expect someone else to look after them either if they ran into bad times.
Oh ffs you're really trying to turn this into a dole bashing thread, do you lot ever think about anything else?
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As someone who is very frugal, it warms my heart that there are people like me out there. Granted some things I was reading in the original post about this guy I thought was a bit excessive but I'm sure he enjoyed a simple life and didn't want to throw money away. I would be the exact same and I don't think there's anything wrong with it as long as you don't compromise your life negatively and the exact same can be said on the inverse.
My ex was the inverse. Couldn't keep money. Spent it like it was going out of fashion. No pension, no savings. I tried to suggest to him that he should try to save a bit. Wouldn't hear of it.
It's a major turn off for me, one of the reasons that I finished with him.
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