Facebook to start New Property Boom in North Docklands

Peregrine · 21-03-2017 8:11pm

Parts of Dublin closer to or the same distance to Noctor's as The Beckett building:

Croke Park
Trinity College
IFSC
Millenium Tower
Current Facebook HQ
Bord Gáis Energy Theatre
The Gibson Hotel
Custom House

Buses stopping outside The Beckett building: 151

Permutations of walking from Connolly Station to The Beckett by only crossing Sheriff Street once on the east side of it: several

Fred_Johnson · 21-03-2017 8:41pm

blue_blue wrote: »

It makes *very* little sense as to why you think FB employees would walk down Sheriff Street Lower. Even if they were alighting at Connolly Station, you'd still follow the Luas tracks through the IFSC as it's a less grim walk.

Why hasn't it already potentially caused problems for the 10's of other long established company employees in the IFSC? JP Morgan, KPMG and Citi Bank are just a stone's throw from Sheriff Street.

That would be a longer walk. Most direct route from Connolly would be through Sheriff Street. I hope the employees are well advised to avoid certain areas, especially if they finish up late in the evening which many of them tend to do. It's not ideal though is it.

subpar · 21-03-2017 8:54pm

Fred_Johnson wrote: »

That would be a longer walk. Most direct route from Connolly would be through Sheriff Street. I hope the employees are well advised to avoid certain areas, especially if they finish up late in the evening which many of them tend to do. It's not ideal though is it.

You are missing the whole point of this regeneration , many of the employees in the new office blocks will end up living and renting in apartments and houses close to their place of work. This influx of new people will in turn generate new openings of cafe's bar's and restaurants which in turn will change the look and feel of the entire area.

L1011 · 21-03-2017 9:33pm

The sheriff street entrance to Connolly will close for years shortly due construction in the car park. Unless the way up beside The Vaults is reopened there'd be little reason to go that way.

alastair · 21-03-2017 11:33pm

It's all nonsense in any case, as walking by Noctors, or Seville Place, even in the evening, is not a dangerous activity. If you're scared of kids in tracksuit bottoms it's probably terrifying, but that doesn't really qualify as actual danger.

listermint · 21-03-2017 11:37pm

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Too much developement around the docklands is a bad idea especially with Dublin Port wanting to build a cruise ship terminal around the Point Depot and the need to expand the port to facilitate larger ships post Brexit.

In no scenario should we be expanding dublin port, tbh for my money the whole thing should be moved lock stock and barrel to Dundalk, to provide jobs further up the coast and to remove the traffic and unnecessary movement of heavy goods close to a city that are destined for elsewhere.

alastair · 21-03-2017 11:38pm

Fred_Johnson wrote: »

ahahaha...yeah, only that? I'm sure the 65% unemployment rate in the area results in a delightful bunch of people.

Signing on doesn't make you dangerous. I certainly wasn't any more dangerous when I was claiming.

Fred_Johnson wrote: »

Let's see you walk sheriff street and the surrounding streets late at night on a regular basis. Somehow i imagine you walking rather briskly if you came across a few locals burning tires.

I've lived in the north inner city for twenty years. It'd take rather more than some kids burning tires to put the frighteners on me, or anyone with a bit of cop tbf.

geecee · 21-03-2017 11:45pm

banjopaul wrote: »

As for having to walk through dodgy places to get there, 151 bus stops at the front door

So is this Beckett Building that FB have leased the one next to the Gala on East road?

The Comer Group's website shows it as being somewhere behind the back of Lidl on Church road!
http://www.thecomergroup.com/development/the-beckett#googleMap

So presuming its the 151 terminus there are plenty of options for FB employees. its only 8 minutes walk to spencer dock luas, even shorter to the docklands rail station and no need to go anywhere near the "bad" end of sheriff st (just like the hundreds that alight at the Docklands station every morning)

subpar · 22-03-2017 9:27am

200 Additional Jobs in Fenergo at Castleforbes House announced today.

Irish-run financial technology company Fenergo is to create 200 jobs in Dublin over the next 12 to 18 months.

The company is based in the city's Docklands and the new roles will bring the company's total employment to 500.

The new positions are being supported by the Department of Jobs through Enterprise Ireland and include new jobs in software engineering, product management, consulting and marketing.

Fenergo is owned by Irish investors and a New York private equity company.

banjopaul · 22-03-2017 11:43am

geecee wrote: »

So is this Beckett Building that FB have leased the one next to the Gala on East road?

The Comer Group's website shows it as being somewhere behind the back of Lidl on Church road!
http://www.thecomergroup.com/development/the-beckett#googleMap

So presuming its the 151 terminus there are plenty of options for FB employees. its only 8 minutes walk to spencer dock luas, even shorter to the docklands rail station and no need to go anywhere near the "bad" end of sheriff st (just like the hundreds that alight at the Docklands station every morning)

Yeah their map on the site looks wrong alright. It's the Beckett, beside Gala.

Lt Dan · 22-03-2017 12:03pm

DontThankMe wrote: »

The boom is back!

Time to party and forget all the mistakes that were made previously

Fred_Johnson · 22-03-2017 6:44pm

subpar wrote: »

You are missing the whole point of this regeneration , many of the employees in the new office blocks will end up living and renting in apartments and houses close to their place of work. This influx of new people will in turn generate new openings of cafe's bar's and restaurants which in turn will change the look and feel of the entire area.

The area won't change unless the existing residents move out. I don't see that happening given that they have been given free accommodation for life by the government.

subpar · 22-03-2017 6:51pm

Fred_Johnson wrote: »

The area won't change unless the existing residents move out. I don't see that happening given that they have been given free accommodation for life by the government.

Rubbish

dar100 · 22-03-2017 7:12pm

Fred_Johnson wrote: »

They could be but mostly they're young university educated professionals both from Ireland and abroad. If employees start complaining about anti-social and criminal behavior near where they're working it may deter future investment in Ireland which would be my concern.

They do but they're more likely to get shot in some places rather than others.

Yes, and there's young university educate people living in that area and surrounding areas

markpb · 22-03-2017 7:59pm

subpar wrote:

Rubbish

What an insightful and well constructed post that clearly outlines your opinion and how you reached it.

fiachr_a · 22-03-2017 8:55pm

Why are they moving across the river? There are lots of new office blocks getting built in Grand Canal Dock just down from Facebook.

L1011 · 22-03-2017 9:42pm

fiachr_a wrote: »

Why are they moving across the river? There are lots of new office blocks getting built in Grand Canal Dock just down from Facebook.

They need space ASAP and most of those are spoken for already. It's additional space, not a move

alastair · 23-03-2017 2:38am

Fred_Johnson wrote: »

The area won't change unless the existing residents move out. I don't see that happening given that they have been given free accommodation for life by the government.

If you mean Dublin City Council, then no. Nobody gets free accommodation, even if they're living in social housing.

fiachr_a · 23-03-2017 3:06pm

alastair wrote: »

Nobody gets free accommodation, even if they're living in social housing.

Someone tell that to Dublin's homeless.

subpar · 07-04-2017 11:50am

Extract from recent article in Irish Independent

Facebook is closing in on a new, additional Dublin building with up to 1,000 new staff.
What's the biggest reaction? Is it 'oh great'? Or 'wow'? Or even 'how can we capitalise on this'?

No. It's 'now hold on there, where will people live?'
This is as understandable as it is depressing. In a week when official figures showed the lowest unemployment rate Ireland has had in nearly a decade, we're heading full tilt into another infrastructural crisis.

There aren't enough houses, transport is creaking and we have no real resolve to fundamentally restructure either problem.
We just can't be bothered.

Take accommodation. We don't have nearly enough housing or office space in Dublin. And we won't allow big high-rise developments around the city.
As a result, rents are soaring to unheard-of levels. Forget about renting a modern two-bedroom apartment anywhere in the city for under €15,000 a year.

And, with Google and Facebook adding jobs, get ready for new price hikes in swathes of adjacent north city neighbourhoods, especially Fairview, Marino and East Wall.
Of course, that's before any potential Brexit jobs-relocation dividend from London.

listermint · 09-04-2017 7:21am

subpar wrote: »

Extract from recent article in Irish Independent

Facebook is closing in on a new, additional Dublin building with up to 1,000 new staff.
What's the biggest reaction? Is it 'oh great'? Or 'wow'? Or even 'how can we capitalise on this'?

No. It's 'now hold on there, where will people live?'
This is as understandable as it is depressing. In a week when official figures showed the lowest unemployment rate Ireland has had in nearly a decade, we're heading full tilt into another infrastructural crisis.

There aren't enough houses, transport is creaking and we have no real resolve to fundamentally restructure either problem.
We just can't be bothered.

Take accommodation. We don't have nearly enough housing or office space in Dublin. And we won't allow big high-rise developments around the city.
As a result, rents are soaring to unheard-of levels. Forget about renting a modern two-bedroom apartment anywhere in the city for under â‚¬15,000 a year.

And, with Google and Facebook adding jobs, get ready for new price hikes in swathes of adjacent north city neighbourhoods, especially Fairview, Marino and East Wall.
Of course, that's before any potential Brexit jobs-relocation dividend from London.

The County needs a Mayor or city manager who has direct control over all local authorities and can decide planning applications centrally rather than this throwing over the fence stuff from the individual authorities.

Either that or a Dublin Minister.

subpar · 13-01-2021 10:25am

Latest News on whats happening to Castleforbes Business Park and the former A1 site from yesterdays Irish Times

Glenveagh to charge council up to €791,500 for family apartments
Housebuilder expects to get €33.4m for 71 social housing units at 702-unit city centre development.
Housebuilder Glenveagh expects to charge Dublin City Council €33.44 million for 71 social housing units at a major development on Sheriff Street

Glenveagh, one of the State’s best known housebuilders, expects to charge Dublin City Council €33.44 million for 71 social housing units at a major development on Sheriff Street.

In a letter to the city council about how it might meet its Part V social housing obligations under the plan, Glenveagh estimated that the units might cost the council up to €791,531 each.

That price relates to six three-bed apartments it is offering the council in the 702 unit scheme.

The builder is also planning to sell 14 two-bed apartments to the council at a price of €641,899 each and 41 one-bed apartments for €408,074 each. Glenveagh is also planning to offer the local authority 10 studio apartments at a price of €297,323 each.

Glenveagh has lodged a “fast track” planning application for 702 apartments in nine blocks on the six acre site at Castleforbes Business Park at Sheriff Street and East Road, Dublin 1. The plan, which is classed as a strategic housing development will be considered by An Bórd Pleanála.

The overall plan comprises 406 one-bed units, 100 studios, 169 two-bed units, 15 three-bed units, eight two-bed duplexes and four live-work duplex units.

Located 400 metres from the Spencer Dock Luas stop, the blocks will range from one to 18 storeys reaching up to 206 feet in height.

Indicative
In a letter to Dublin City Council, Wesley Rothwell, director at Glenveagh Living, said the figures were “purely indicative and are intended to provide a reasonable estimate of the costs and values of the units based on construction costs prevailing at the time of the application”.

He said any ultimate Part V agreement was dependent on the final grant of permission and the site value of the time of planning permission.

In a letter to Glenveagh’s consultants, Brady Shipman Martin, the city council said its preferred option was to acquire units on site.

The planning report lodged with the application states that the vision for the proposed site “is to transform an underutilised brownfield site through a major urban regeneration project, by consolidating the various areas which meet at this confluence point”.

The application is the last of three applications Glenveagh has for the overall site.

“This new urban quarter will combine living, employment, public realm, and a significant cultural offering in a diversified model of housing supply, new adaptable employment, and community use opportunities,” the report says.

The application is open to submissions until January 19th, with the appeals board due to a decision on the application in April.
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Jizique · 13-01-2021 3:41pm

subpar wrote: »

Latest News on whats happening to Castleforbes Business Park and the former A1 site from yesterdays Irish Times

Glenveagh to charge council up to €791,500 for family apartments
Housebuilder expects to get €33.4m for 71 social housing units at 702-unit city centre development.
Housebuilder Glenveagh expects to charge Dublin City Council €33.44 million for 71 social housing units at a major development on Sheriff Street

Glenveagh, one of the State’s best known housebuilders, expects to charge Dublin City Council €33.44 million for 71 social housing units at a major development on Sheriff Street.

In a letter to the city council about how it might meet its Part V social housing obligations under the plan, Glenveagh estimated that the units might cost the council up to €791,531 each.

That price relates to six three-bed apartments it is offering the council in the 702 unit scheme.

The builder is also planning to sell 14 two-bed apartments to the council at a price of €641,899 each and 41 one-bed apartments for €408,074 each. Glenveagh is also planning to offer the local authority 10 studio apartments at a price of €297,323 each.

Glenveagh has lodged a “fast track” planning application for 702 apartments in nine blocks on the six acre site at Castleforbes Business Park at Sheriff Street and East Road, Dublin 1. The plan, which is classed as a strategic housing development will be considered by An Bórd Pleanála.

The overall plan comprises 406 one-bed units, 100 studios, 169 two-bed units, 15 three-bed units, eight two-bed duplexes and four live-work duplex units.

Located 400 metres from the Spencer Dock Luas stop, the blocks will range from one to 18 storeys reaching up to 206 feet in height.

Indicative
In a letter to Dublin City Council, Wesley Rothwell, director at Glenveagh Living, said the figures were “purely indicative and are intended to provide a reasonable estimate of the costs and values of the units based on construction costs prevailing at the time of the application”.

He said any ultimate Part V agreement was dependent on the final grant of permission and the site value of the time of planning permission.

In a letter to Glenveagh’s consultants, Brady Shipman Martin, the city council said its preferred option was to acquire units on site.

The planning report lodged with the application states that the vision for the proposed site “is to transform an underutilised brownfield site through a major urban regeneration project, by consolidating the various areas which meet at this confluence point”.

The application is the last of three applications Glenveagh has for the overall site.

“This new urban quarter will combine living, employment, public realm, and a significant cultural offering in a diversified model of housing supply, new adaptable employment, and community use opportunities,” the report says.

The application is open to submissions until January 19th, with the appeals board due to a decision on the application in April.
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F*cking madness

subpar · 14-01-2021 9:50am

Ballymore gets green light for Connolly Quarter

Sean Mulryan’s group plans 80,000 sq m of offices, shops and homes next to rail hub

Sean Mulryan, chairman and group chief executive of Ballymore, which has secured permission for a major mixed development beside Dublin’s Connolly station. Photograph: Alan Betson
Sean Mulryan, chairman and group chief executive of Ballymore, which has secured permission for a major mixed development beside Dublin’s Connolly station. Photograph: Alan Betson

Developer Sean Mulryan’s Ballymore has got the green light to build offices and homes at a key site in Dublin in a project likely to create more than 1,000 jobs.

Ballymore confirmed on Wednesday that Dublin City Council has given the group permission to build three blocks that will house offices, shops, homes and a hotel, next to Connolly rail station in the capital.

The company said the commercial element of the complex will cover 42,670 square metres and will include two office blocks along with a 246-bedroom hotel. Heights will range from nine to 13 storeys.

Ballymore’s plans are for a 80,000 square metre devleopment overall, including homes, the offices and hotel, restaurants, bars, shops and other amenities.

A statement predicted that the development, dubbed Connolly Quarter, would be home to more than 5,000 people.

It will also provide new bases to the Docklands Boxing Club and St Joseph’s O’Connell Boys’ GAA club.

Ballymore estimated on Wednesday that the project would create a total of more than 1,000 building jobs over five years. It said that would include apprenticeship and training opportunities at all levels.

Mr Mulryan welcomed news that the counci had granted permission for the project. He pledged that the company would work with the local community “to ensure we provide a state-of-the-art development” that complemented the existing environment.

Ballymore sought permission for Connolly Quarter from Dublin City Council in the summer and provided further information on the the project in October.

Facebook to start New Property Boom in North Docklands

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