The problem with Ben Shapiro

Deemed as Normal · 09-01-2021 10:28pm #1

I do have to wonder if Ben Shapiro really believes half the arguments he stands for. Or is it just more fun for him play devil's advocate? and thereby challenge his debating skills all the more by standing for the side who's clearly in the wrong?

Unlike most Trump supporters, Shapiro is intelligent. So this makes it funny because he kind of has to admit that Trump is an idiot, and then rationalise it somehow. I first heard him claiming to be a Trump supporter about a year and a half ago in an Andrew Neil interview. His argument at the time was that "he has already done all the damage that he can do"! Strangely, I then heard him make this same argument word for word has recently as October... after all the damage he did relating to Covid! And that's what I mean by being "in his head". A smart person would have adapted that argument!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7Xj3tYFKks&ab_channel=BenShapiro

Another thing about him, is that he seems to be very much in his head. I think that's the reason he talks so fast; because he has all the arguments rehearsed to death and feels he has to say them all out. Or maybe he talks fast in order to confuse his opponents. In any case he comes across as very aggressive. I would feel like saying "slow down man; you're going to get to say whatever you want to say".

Don't get me wrong though, I agree with a lot of the points he makes. But at the end of the day, he is just another American debater who polarises everything. He does not appear to care about trying to make people see things for what thy really are, and is instead just pandering to a particular audience. I may not understand everything he is talking about, but I would not trust him for a second. He is a sharp debater. But not a convincing one!

He reminds me of the way I used to be as a teenager... getting a little kick out of winning an argument, but not bothering to try and see the bigger picture, and not even realising that I was actually being an attention seeker. Shapiro is dangerous.

suicide_circus · 09-01-2021 10:44pm

It's largely an act. He's made good money out of it too.

Deemed as Normal · 09-01-2021 10:52pm

suicide_circus wrote: »

It's largely an act. He's made good money out of it too.

So are you more intelligent than the average person that you realise it's an act! You, just like me, don't really know to what extent it is an act. If it is at all.

If it's all an act, do you ever think it irritates him that he has to pretend to believe absurd arguments just to make his money? He doesn't seem like the sort who doesn't have a conscience.

09-01-2021 10:58pm

Apparently he inhales helium before he speaks to detract credibility from his statements. Another significant flaw of his is when he speaks. By the way, check out this cream that zaps boils in those awkward places.

Spoofer and living infomercial.

listermint · 09-01-2021 10:59pm

Money is a ridiculously powerful driver.

The end.

Deemed as Normal · 09-01-2021 11:02pm

Deleted User wrote: »

By the way, check out this cream that zaps boils in those awkward places.

Can you be serious for one moment?

Junkyard Tom · 09-01-2021 11:04pm

Intelligent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-w-pdqwiBw

duffysfarm · 09-01-2021 11:04pm

I think you will find that a lot of people who supported trump in the past (whether this is right or wrong) have changed their minds in the last month or so.

I have to say i love watch shapiro and the way he destroys some libtards.

L1011 · 09-01-2021 11:05pm

I pity his wife more than anyone else in all of this.

09-01-2021 11:06pm

In his case and a few others like him a perfectly good arsehole was ruined by adding teeth to their mouths

Larbre34 · 09-01-2021 11:06pm

None of these coconuts like Shapiro believe a word they're saying. Its about making yourself a brand to be consumed by fools, by appealing to their fears.

Thats really all to be said about them.

Your Face · 09-01-2021 11:12pm

He is just the other side of the same disease-riddled coin.

It's all a work.

Deemed as Normal · 09-01-2021 11:15pm

duffysfarm wrote: »

I have to say i love watch shapiro and the way he destroys some libtards.

Me too, but not half as much as I enjoyed he, himself, getting destroyed by Andrew Neil!

SomeGuyCalledMi · 09-01-2021 11:20pm

He is a fool. Anyone who denies climate science with such stupid arguments makes me wonder about the future of America.

riffmongous · 09-01-2021 11:38pm

First find someone who doesn't know how to debate, then:

"For the sake of argument"

"Hypothetically"

"Facts and logic"

*Smug face*

Post to YouTube with buzzwords for simple minded folk like "libtards" and "DESTROYS" and grift in the cash

Gatling · 10-01-2021 12:12am

Wouldn't be a big fan ,but I do love when when winds someone in and smugly beats their argument or in cases lack of argument

padd b1975 · 10-01-2021 12:37am

listermint wrote: »

Money is a ridiculously powerful driver.

The end.

Careful now.

1o059k7ewrqj3n · 10-01-2021 12:46am

His sister is a ride.

AllForIt · 10-01-2021 12:47am

He certainly is one the most arrogant commentator I've ever come across.

He comes off so badly in this interview with the esteemed Andrew Neil. "I've never heard of you" - squeals Shapiro.

Quite amusing actually.

edit: I do agree with a lot of what he says in this interview, but my God, talk about making a bad job of putting your point across.

Church on Tuesday · 10-01-2021 1:25am

Regardless of whether you stand on the Left or Right, I think we can all mostly agree that Mr. Shapiro is an insufferable knowingly smug prick.

Junkyard Tom · 10-01-2021 1:36am

Shapiro is no different to the other pseudo-intellectuals on the reactionary circuit, they offer self-help advice for structural problems. Work harder, get another job, clean your room, make peace with your estranged Da.

About as useful as Anne Frank's tap dancing shoes.

rossie1977 · 10-01-2021 1:47am

He seems to believe what he says which is more than can be said for grifters like Kirk, Owens, Rubin etc who are financed by super rich individuals to talk nonsense.

micosoft · 10-01-2021 1:57am

Much like Trump is white trash idea of what a rich person is like, Ben Shapiro is a stupid person's idea of an "intellectual/debater".

He uses a number of crude rhetorical devices deployed in a specific structured format that is subsequently edited to get his bad faith "points" across. When he is taken out of that comfort zone the only person being "destroyed" is him (even if the other person is on his side). To the point he will simply walk away than actually debate someone in anything approaching a fair setting.

AllForIt · 10-01-2021 2:08am

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Shapiro is no different to the other pseudo-intellectuals on the reactionary circuit, they offer self-help advice for structural problems. Work harder, get another job, clean your room, make peace with your estranged Da.

About as useful as Anne Frank's tap dancing shoes.

I don't think it makes much difference what they are saying. It's the fact we give such unwarranted attention to anyone of his ilk at all just cuz their many opinions.

Junkyard Tom · 10-01-2021 2:32am

AllForIt wrote: »

such unwarranted attention

YouTube's algorithm has a lot to answer for.

Ubbquittious · 10-01-2021 2:35am

More Statesian drivel for no-lifers to get worked up over

KungPao · 10-01-2021 2:38am

Who the **** is Ben Shapiro?

L1011 · 10-01-2021 2:40am

KungPao wrote: »

Who the **** is Ben Shapiro?

You live a wonderful life, not knowing who he is. I'd suggest you don't bother finding out.

jam_mac_jam · 10-01-2021 2:42am

He's awful. His ridiculous fast talking and smarmy attitude means if he ever has remotely anything I might agree with him on it will get lost in my contempt for him.

He is not an intellectual, he he just repeating pull yourself up by your bootstraps, divisive right wing rhetoric that is not even worth listening to.

He also has said some disgusting things about Arabs in relation to isreal.

There are right wing people who can get their point across without acting like a teenage girl arguing with their parents he is not one. He is so abrasive and rude.

10-01-2021 2:42am

He rarely mentions how his opinions are largely driven by his religious beliefs. He's very, very religious but doesn't let on. It's becomes clear in some of his Joe Rogan interviews. Like no sex before marriage. Homosexuality is an abomination. Morality can only come from God. All the usuals. I'm never going to put much stock in anyone coming from that position.

jam_mac_jam · 10-01-2021 2:45am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

He rarely mentions how his opinions are largely driven by his religious beliefs. He's very, very religious but doesn't let on. It's becomes clear in some of his Joe Rogan interviews. Like no sex before marriage. Homosexuality is an abomination. Morality can only come from God. All the usuals. I'm never going to put much stock in anyone coming from that position.

And at the same time facts don't care about your feelings. But you base your opinions on a feeling.

Lets just ignore the big god shaped elephant in the room.

The problem with Ben Shapiro

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