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  • #152
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    Cienciano wrote: »
    You're wrong here. Examples: Go past a gardai speed trap about 3 or 4 kph over the legal limit and see if you're pulled in. Go through a gardai checkpoint with your tax or ncd out of date by a couple of days.
    I drive a motorcycle and I'm not legally allowed ride in active buslanes. I've driven past about 50 or 100 bus lane checkpoint in the last 10 years in full view of the garda, never pulled in. They don't enforce every law. Do you know anyone who was charged with crossing a road within 50 feet of a pedestrian crossing when the light was still red?

    Yes. I've seen people prosecuted for all of the offences you mentioned.
    Nodin wrote: »
    In the case where the law plainly is an ass, yes.

    That's completely bull**** Nodin and you know it. You would be one of the first people on here lambasting the Gardaí for ignoring enforcement of a law if it was anything else. I'd bet money that you were very active in the penalty point threads. You can't have it both ways. Either the Gardaí enforce laws passed by the legislature or they enforce the laws they think are right.


  • #153
    LostinKildare
    Registered Users Posts: 988 ✭✭✭LostinKildare


    Here's a heart-warming story of gardai responsibly using their power of discretion:

    [allegedly] stopped a guy driving with no tax, but in lieu of giving him penalty points, had him come to a Meath garda station to perform a stripper act for a female gard, who somehow hurt her back during the performance

    Makes you proud of the AGS, doesn't it?

    EDIT LINK:

    http://www.newstalk.com/Garda-investigation-into-allegations-that-a-female-officer-was-injured-during-male-strip-show-


  • #154
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,431 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    LostinKildare wrote: »
    Here's a heart-warming story of gardai responsibly using their power of discretion:

    [allegedly] stopped a guy driving with no tax, but in lieu of giving him penalty points, had him come to a Meath garda station to perform a stripper act for a female gard, who somehow hurt her back during the performance

    Makes you proud of the AGS, doesn't it?

    http://www.newstalk.com/Garda-investigation-into-allegations-that-a-female-officer-was-injured-during-male-strip-show-

    Ah for God's sake.
    I had a serious row with a garda years ago on the road over my alleged bad driving. I didn't like his attitude and complained to his boss about it.
    That doesn't make ALL the garda officers my enemy. I have a great regard for them as a police force. In general they do a very good job.
    You get bad eggs in every workforce and stupid ones too.


  • #155
    the dark phantom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 772 ✭✭✭the dark phantom


    Glorified Anti-Recreational Drugs Agency


  • #156
    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,707 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    LostinKildare wrote: »
    Here's a heart-warming story of gardai responsibly using their power of discretion:

    [allegedly] stopped a guy driving with no tax, but in lieu of giving him penalty points, had him come to a Meath garda station to perform a stripper act for a female gard, who somehow hurt her back during the performance

    Makes you proud of the AGS, doesn't it?

    http://www.newstalk.com/Garda-investigation-into-allegations-that-a-female-officer-was-injured-during-male-strip-show-

    Link is gone


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  • #157
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Little CuChulainn wrote: »


    That's completely bull**** Nodin and you know it. You would be one of the first people on here lambasting the Gardaí for ignoring enforcement of a law if it was anything else..


    But if it was anything else it wouldn't be as clearly a stupid pointless waste of effort as this.
    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    I'd bet money that you were very active in the penalty point threads.
    .

    Bet money you were wrong, bad as my memory is.
    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    . Either the Gardaí enforce laws passed by the legislature or they enforce the laws they think are right.

    It has been known for Gardaí to enforce laws not on those laws merits but on the individuals supposed station in life as well you know. Here I ask for a consistent, steady policy.


  • #158
    LostinKildare
    Registered Users Posts: 988 ✭✭✭LostinKildare


    Tigger wrote: »
    Link is gone

    Sorry, fixed it above in #153
    tayto lover wrote: »
    Ah for God's sake.
    I had a serious row with a garda years ago on the road over my alleged bad driving. I didn't like his attitude and complained to his boss about it.
    That doesn't make ALL the garda officers my enemy. I have a great regard for them as a police force. In general they do a very good job.
    You get bad eggs in every workforce and stupid ones too.

    Who said ALL gardai are the enemy? Not me.
    The point is, stories like this add fuel to the view of the force as undisciplined. As you say, all workforces have bad and stupid eggs, but a stupid/arrogant/"bad" gard is more worrisome --- with the potential to do greater harm --- than, say, a stupid/arrogant/"bad" t-shirt folder at the Gap.


  • #159
    Into The Blue
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,358 ✭✭✭Into The Blue


    carzony wrote: »
    Only way I can judge is social media but the Guards seems to be very much hated by the public now

    Best not to take your view of the real world from social media and water protestors.


  • #160
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    LostinKildare wrote: »
    Sorry, fixed it above in #153



    Who said ALL gardai are the enemy? Not me.
    The point is, stories like this add fuel to the view of the force as undisciplined. As you say, all workforces have bad and stupid eggs, but a stupid/arrogant/"bad" gard is more worrisome --- with the potential to do greater harm --- than, say, a stupid/arrogant/"bad" t-shirt folder at the Gap.


    And when you have a clique of them, and an institutional culture that produces a wall of silence, a far too cosy relationship with the political establishment, insufficient independent oversight, insufficient judicial oversight...........


  • #161
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,431 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Who said ALL gardai are the enemy? Not me.
    The point is, stories like this add fuel to the view of the force as undisciplined. As you say, all workforces have bad and stupid eggs, but a stupid/arrogant/"bad" gard is more worrisome --- with the potential to do greater harm --- than, say, a stupid/arrogant/"bad" t-shirt folder at the Gap.[/QUOTE]

    As police forces go the garda are not too bad at all imo.
    You'll never get perfect.


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  • #162
    Maximus Alexander
    Registered Users Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    tayto lover wrote: »

    As police forces go the garda are not too bad at all imo.
    You'll never get perfect.

    Maybe not, but we should also never settle for anything less.


  • #163
    mynamejeff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    Maximus Alexander wrote: »
    Maybe not, but we should also never settle for anything less.

    What do you expect to get with the badly trained under resourced politically maligned toothless juridically unsupported police force that lacks even the ability to defend its own members.


  • #164
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Maximus Alexander wrote: »
    Maybe not, but we should also never settle for anything less.

    You have to strive for perfection to get excellent results, generally speaking.


  • #165
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Anyone caught in breech of the law should be prosecuted. You don't get to choose what laws apply to you.


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