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10-03-2019, 01:32   #16
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I do not agree with the idea of a blanket curfew... that would be punishing the masses for the fault of a few.
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I do not agree with the idea of a blanket curfew... that would be punishing the masses for the fault of a few.
There wouldn't be a need for it if they behaved themselves it would be the last resort if trouble was to become the norm. It would be part of the contract when signing up for student residences don't want the curfew don't get a place in the residences or have a complete ban on any sort of parties in the residences if breached eviction. Harsh but fair if you ask me.
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This whole situation is ridiculous. We're talking about supposedly bright people with enough intelligence to study at UCD, yet can't control their urges to cause wanton vandalism. They need the threat of a financial sanction, coupled with a bloody good kick up the árse.
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There wouldn't be a need for it if they behaved themselves it would be the last resort if trouble was to become the norm. It would be part of the contract when signing up for student residences don't want the curfew don't get a place in the residences or have a complete ban on any sort of parties in the residences if breached eviction. Harsh but fair if you ask me.
But for a lot of people, their only crime is going to UCD. If a person who had green eyes committed a crime, you wouldn’t round up all the people with green eyes and send them to prison. Only the person who committed a crime should face the consequences.

Disclaimer: I don’t go to UCD
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But for a lot of people, their only crime is going to UCD. If a person who had green eyes committed a crime, you wouldn’t round up all the people with green eyes and send them to prison. Only the person who committed a crime should face the consequences.

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Well the idea would be that curfews would be introduced temporarily until the issue calmed down. What would happen is that if a curfew was introduced the people causing trouble would probably quit the residences and they could replace them with people who actually do want to be there and they could be used as a threat for students to calm down.

If you don't want to live by the rules of the residence then find somewhere else to stay would be the logic. I'm sick of hearing moaning from privileged students about non real world issues.

Maybe they will quit the complaining when they actually had to do a hard days work. Who else is going into town on a Tuesday night when everyone is in bed other than students. It's fair that people are being denied a bus service in their area as people live and work in the vicinity of UCD.
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10-03-2019, 02:48   #21
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Wouldn’t agree with that at all. A lost of students work on the weekends and thus can’t go out at the weekend. In other words, they are working 7 days a week( study plus job). I m not a student but can put my self in their shoes. This idea of “those privileged kids” privileged why? Because they are in college? There is a thing called susi grants. There is a thing called scholarships. They want to better their lives and I say fair play to them. The majority are hard working and don’t cause any harm.
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Says a lot that the same nonsense isn’t happening around Trinity. Country bais dazzled by being away from Mammy’s leash, I reckon.
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Buses have been destroyed inside with ceiling panels destroyed, hand rails pulled off etc etc.

Bottles smashed and left rolling around, cans of piss and puke, pint glasses same.....

The abuse of them getting off is disgusting also.

Had it happen many times over the years where they would want say lesson st but not bother pressing the bell or making their way down then they would all get off on Dawson Street and throw abuse and even cans on a few occasions.

Banging on the floor with their feet, screaming like a banshee and wailing etc on the way in.

Passengers already on board would move downstairs under fear and the noise only to be subjected to the bangs now above their heads.


I have no issues with someone have a laugh, good night or day and of course having a few fizzy drinks once they behave themselves.

I've no issues even though it's illegal to drink or eat on a bus once they respect others including myself and take their bottles with them.

Having glass or plastic bottles rolling around is a serious safety issue as they can roll under one's foot when walking and cause a bad fall and also the bottles smashing.

These bottles then can actually cause the doors to jam and get stuck also as they roll down to them with movement of the bus.

Buses will stop in their if the ones causing the trouble grow up and treat others and themselves with respect but until that can be shown I don't see any changes.

It's the same though anywhere across the city though as you can just tell when the group you're stopping for is going to be troublesome and then the game of not paying starts or paying a €1 fare at 11pm and them all going to the city drinking cans or vodka etc....
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How is stuff like this allowed happen in this country, why not just put 4 plain clothes Gardaí on every bus going through that area each evening and arrest every single person acting the clown, problem solved, hardly a need to setup a research group and have a study on the problem.
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something like this has been happening for at least the last few years.
It was happening when I started there in 92!
Seems to die down for a year or two and then flare up again.
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How is stuff like this allowed happen in this country, why not just put 4 plain clothes Gardaí on every bus going through that area each evening and arrest every single person acting the clown, problem solved, hardly a need to setup a research group and have a study on the problem.
As per usual there isn't any Gardai to do this.
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Isn’t the crux of the issue being that there hasn’t been many incidents of anti-social behaviour, and DB are just skipping the stops anyway?
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No, the crux of the issue is that this has been happening for YEARS and nothing has changed.
The definition of stupidity is doing things the same way but expecting a different result.
The Gardaí are simply not interested, so it's up to bus drivers to make a stand for the safety of themselves and their decent passengers.
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Isn’t the crux of the issue being that there hasn’t been many incidents of anti-social behaviour, and DB are just skipping the stops anyway?
It is. Drivers take the N11, they can't even see if there are any large or rowdy groups on the actual overpass stop. It's a blanket stop boycott, not a response to any actual risk.
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It is. Drivers take the N11, they can't even see if there are any large or rowdy groups on the actual overpass stop. It's a blanket stop boycott, not a response to any actual risk.
Some of the newer guys have gone up after 10pm and the buses thrashed.
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