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07-03-2019, 21:19   #2
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Jaysus lads, they need to do some tidying up with some of those links. We're not far away from hexidecimal routes...
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The timetable for the 38A has this gem of a footnote.

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cc Route 38b from Damastown to O'Connell Street via Blanchardstown Bypass
b Route 38b from Damastown towards Burlington Rd. via Blanchardstown Bypass
v Via Ballycoolin
c To City Centre
Indicating a service on the 38b with the letter c is pretty confusing.

Had a look a bit more and a lot of those new timetables have a fair number of route variations and they are not always very easy to understand.

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f From Ongar and departs College Street at 23:30
v From Ongar via Corduff, Blanchardstown Village, Constitution Hill, North King Street, Queen Street, South Quays, Heuston Station, North Quays to Belfield
b From Castleknock at 05:10 to Ongar and departs Ongar at 05:20 via Corduff, Blanchardstown Village, Constitution Hill, North King Street, Queen Street, South Quays, Heuston Station, North Quays to Baggot Street

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f From Ongar and departs College Street at 23:30
I’m guessing this needs to be updated to Westmoreland Street. The 39a hasn’t stopped on College Street since before the tracks were laid.
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The 27 'enhancements' have been a bit torrid, the bunching up is incredible. I've seen 4 27s in a row at one point on Dame St. The 13 will end up doing exactly the same.
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I’m guessing this needs to be updated to Westmoreland Street. The 39a hasn’t stopped on College Street since before the tracks were laid.
I think you mean D'olier street , Westmoreland street would be heading outbound to Ongar.
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The 27 'enhancements' have been a bit torrid, the bunching up is incredible. I've seen 4 27s in a row at one point on Dame St. The 13 will end up doing exactly the same.
I haven't looked at the total list of changes (and DB don't make it easy because you have to compare the timetables yourself) but a lot of the enhancements in general seem to be off peak.

The DART improvements mostly benefit off peak as well.

Improving the service generally is great but I'd really like to see the commute experience get a bit better. Aside from my own needs that's when people are going to decide to give up and get a car.
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Off peak services can be improved with more drivers, so less buses parked up during those slumps. But to improve peak services they'll need more buses.
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Off peak services can be improved with more drivers, so less buses parked up during those slumps. But to improve peak services they'll need more buses.
That's why they're building a new bus depot at Broadstone.
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I haven't looked at the total list of changes (and DB don't make it easy because you have to compare the timetables yourself) but a lot of the enhancements in general seem to be off peak.
What do you define as peak these days?
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That's why they're building a new bus depot at Broadstone.
I didn't know what the work was for up there. But if short term they can add services with drivers, theres no point advertising services that would need extra buses they don't currently have.
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What do you define as peak these days?
Based on the timetables Dublin Bus seems to consider peak to be around 7-8:30am and 5-6:30pm.

My understanding is the DB fleet effectively increased by 10% since the routes transferred to Go Ahead but not the buses (or if they did they were replaced) or drivers.

I'm thinking of West Dublin here so I guess a factor is the depot layout and what drivers can operate where.
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My understanding is the DB fleet effectively increased by 10% since the routes transferred to Go Ahead but not the buses (or if they did they were replaced) or drivers.
Not quite right, a number of DB vehicles transferred to Go-Ahead towards the end of last year that were then replaced by brand new vehicles in Dublin Bus.

When routes went over to Go-Ahead, the Dublin Bus vehicles and staff formerly operating these routes were redeployed onto retained and new Dublin Bus routes to provide additional capacity.

The Dublin City bus network fleet has increased by approx 125 vehicles over what it was last year, when you take the combined Go-Ahead and Dublin Bus vehicles together, which is about a 15% expansion.
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Based on the timetables Dublin Bus seems to consider peak to be around 7-8:30am and 5-6:30pm.
It seems to differ based on routes. I have stood at wood quay at 7.30 at night waiting for a 39a. At that time of the evening the frequency would be every 20 minutes and buses would be quite full.

It would be quite common at that hour of the night to see 6 or 7 145s pass by at that hour of the night.
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One thing I would say is that Irish rail , in conjunction with the NTA have changed the timetable of the maynooth line to every 30 minutes up to 9pm approx and the services are quite busy. The frequency change of this line has made it more popular.
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