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14-02-2019, 18:21   #31
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Plenty of solutions being thrown around but they all cost money.

Our Capital investment is still way below what it should be - it's never recovered fully from the last recession. Overruns like the Children's Hospital don't really help and the public sector unions seem to have first dibs on any revenue increases.

I can't really see anything improving - there seems to be a huge amount of commercial development currently on-going in places like the IFSC - it's good to see in some ways but it's only going to put more strain on the existing infrastructure which is already over-capacity.
what is your point about them costing money? they do cost money, the total lack of investment has us in this state. Other countries just invest in it as a matter of course. Here? LOL! if its not an increase on welfare, its wasted
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These morons build an entirely car dependent city. Then spend minuscule amounts on proper public transport solutions , actually scratch that , we don’t have a segregated metro here. They won’t get me out of my car for the vast majority of my trips. Bus journeys that are longer than frodos trek to Mordor!

How in gods name does this kip not have twenty four hour bus services and luas should be operating longer too !

The morons who built it were elected by millions of morons with votes who decided:


-They wanted a city that went OUT instead of up because a tiny garden is worth spending 2 hours on a commute to work rather than going downstairs, around the corner and jumping on a subway that comes every 3 minutes...or they never even thought about that exchange just wanted the garden not thinking through the consequences. This is one of the central things holding up decent PT in Ireland.



-For most of the Tiger era, demanded tax cuts over infrastructure spending consistently to the point where no opposition party was offering the option of using the surplus for long term projects instead of extra 10ers on welfare and tax cuts. Thankfully the govt did the NDP and T21 anyway but nowhere near as much as would have happened with pubic support for long term thinking. This aspect has changed thankfully, and now the public supports public service improvements over tax cuts nearly 2:1 but it's very late in the day for this shift and took a huge recession for people to alter their thinking to the long term.
Unfortunatly a huge amount of new PS spending gets hoovered up in pay hikes (it's the main reason why, no matter how much money they poured into the HSE after M.Martins reforms, front line services didn't get much better). Instead of attacking the cost of living we just raise their wages like a dog chasing it's tail who will never catch it. 2/3 of the new spending since the recession ended have gone to PS wages and they are demanding we make that worse.



-Protested HYSTERICALLY and objected via the planning laws every time a bus lane or tunnel or any major transport change was mooted or proposed. You can't even move a bus route at the end to straighten it out in this country without hysterics in the Irish Times about how there are 2 blind passengers out of the 147,000 on that route who will have to walk an extra 12ft.


-Those outside Dublin have a massive massive chip on their shoulder and would rather spend the cost of an Aer Lingus flight to Moscow per passenger on a barely used line in Ballybrophy rather than support more money going into a Metro in Dublin because "dey get everytin in Dublin".




I'm all for being critical of political leaders but never forget they don't come from thin air and their opinions and actions are based on the climate of public support.
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Are these any companies here that specialise in building apartments? Seems like everyone is building office space these days. :/
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These morons build an entirely car dependent city. Then spend minuscule amounts on proper public transport solutions , actually scratch that , we don’t have a segregated metro here. They won’t get me out of my car for the vast majority of my trips. Bus journeys that are longer than frodos trek to Mordor!

How in gods name does this kip not have twenty four hour bus services and luas should be operating longer too !
Are you for real? Dublin was built before cars were even a thing. Rome was second on the list also built before cars. There are very few citys with twenty four hour bus or train services. New york is the only city iv been to that has that service and iv been to quite a few citys.
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https://www.irishtimes.com/business/...05124?mode=amp

Could do with this new traffic management system here!
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28-02-2019, 15:23   #36
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Could do with this new traffic management system here!
No mention of pedestrians or cyclists. As for this...
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“Dublin’s an old city, with narrow streets, so it’s very difficult in terms of moving traffic efficiently around, unless you start widening streets, which isn’t really an option,” Julia Ann Corkery told The Irish Times. Ms Corkery is associate director on EY’s government and infrastructure advisory team, and reckons that Dublin could scoop the same benefits as Portland if it applies Surtrac to the city’s traffic management system.
The best way of moving traffic efficiently around the city is to eliminate private car usage. I saw a figure of 1.2 persons per car recently from a Cork study, this is a scandalous waste.
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No mention of pedestrians or cyclists.

The best way of moving traffic efficiently around the city is to eliminate private car usage. I saw a figure of 1.2 persons per car recently from a Cork study, this is a scandalous waste.
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could be more beneficial, overall, than more schemes to try and tempt or bully drivers out of their cars.
I think this illustrates EY's government and infrastructure advisory team's primary focus.
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EYs primary focus of course is to make money. The language is emotive, but it's hard to empathise with any argument for unfettered private motor traffic in urban areas. Hopefully the tide of public opinion will shift, but the vocal opposition to infrastructure projects in South and West Dublin is disheartening. We're going to be in some mess in ten years time.
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The best way of moving traffic efficiently around the city is to eliminate private car usage. I saw a figure of 1.2 persons per car recently from a Cork study, this is a scandalous waste.

I paid for my car,the tax,the insurance,the petrol,the NCT and the tolls.

I'll drive it to work BY MYSELF because I've paid for that right.

You think busses full of people wielding bus passes is an efficient use of resources?

If I want to spend an hour cooped up every morning with a bunch of splattering,coughing bums then I'll take the bus.

If I want a 30 minute spin to work by MYSELF with the radio on I'll drive my car.

And cyclists can piss off too..they whinge looking for cycle lanes all over the city then refuse to use the bloody things once they're built.
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I paid for my car,the tax,the insurance,the petrol,the NCT and the tolls.
You didn't pay for the road infrastructure.
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I'll drive it to work BY MYSELF because I've paid for that right.
um. if you've paid for it, it's not a right.
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I paid for my car,the tax,the insurance,the petrol,the NCT and the tolls.
You paid for a vehicle and the fees and costs mandated to legally operate said vehicle. However, the spaces said vehicle can be legally operated can be restricted just fine.
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You paid for a vehicle and the fees and costs mandated to legally operate said vehicle. However, the spaces said vehicle can be legally operated can be restricted just fine.

Not by people on boards they can't
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You didn't pay for the road infrastructure.
41% Income tax for the last 26 years says otherwise.
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How much do motorists contribute to the exchequer and how much is spent on road building and maintenance each year?
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