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Bike Hate

  • 18-04-2019 11:44am
    #1
    harringtonp
    Registered Users Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭


    Even as an avid cyclist you do have to smile


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  • #2
    Hurrache
    Registered Users Posts: 10,147 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Nothing changes

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  • #3
    Large bottle small glass
    Registered Users Posts: 1,718 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    harringtonp wrote: »
    Even as an avid cyclist you do have to smile

    I see a horse drawn cart on wire spoke wheels, first built for a bicycle or perhaps tricycle.

    Prior to that the poor horse would have been pulling a 4 heavy wheeled device with each spoke strong enough to support the wheel load in compression rather the the ingenious suspension wheel with each spoke always in tension


  • #4
    plodder
    Registered Users Posts: 7,123 ✭✭✭plodder


    Large bottle small glass wrote: »
    I see a horse drawn cart on wire spoke wheels, first built for a bicycle or perhaps tricycle.

    Prior to that the poor horse would have been pulling a 4 heavy wheeled device with each spoke strong enough to support the wheel load in compression rather the the ingenious suspension wheel with each spoke always in tension
    A horse-drawn quadri-cycle you might say ..


  • #5
    dahat
    Registered Users Posts: 16,629 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    If he had worn a high viz vest he wouldn't have been hit at all...


  • #6
    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    dahat wrote: »
    If he had worn a high viz vest he wouldn't have been hit at all...

    No they would have gone round again and made sure to run over the right way.


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  • #7
    Utter Consternation
    Registered Users Posts: 926 ✭✭✭Utter Consternation


    Why do people get so bloody worked up over cyclists?? People should just get off their fookin phones, take a few deep breaths and relax the fcuking kacks. Life is too short to be blowing the head gasket over having to drive slowly behind a cyclist for a few short moments.

    People need to seriously catch a grip of themselves.


  • #8
    Borderfox
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,257 Mod ✭✭✭✭Borderfox


    I had some horse riding friends post that picture up on facebook so I linked an infographic from the British Horse Society that says one horse was killed each day and 43 riders also killed by drivers. Shut them up quick enough


  • #9
    harringtonp
    Registered Users Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭harringtonp


    Borderfox wrote: »
    I had some horse riding friends post that picture up on facebook

    Wonder where it came from ? A cycling mate put it on whatsapp and I grabbed it from there


  • #10
    Gerry
    Registered Users Posts: 4,424 ✭✭✭Gerry


    It's obvious that for a lot of people, they do not regard cyclists as being fully human. The hatred which pours out on every cycling related story shows not only how people feel about cyclists, but how they feel about other people. It's quite depressing really. People want to just live in a bubble interacting with friend or family only, and that's it. I think the hatred of cyclists is just one expression of a larger problem.


  • #11
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users Posts: 8,429 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    Gerry wrote: »
    It's obvious that for a lot of people, they do not regard cyclists as being fully human. The hatred which pours out on every cycling related story shows not only how people feel about cyclists, but how they feel about other people. It's quite depressing really. People want to just live in a bubble interacting with friend or family only, and that's it. I think the hatred of cyclists is just one expression of a larger problem.

    The main thing here is how the media and the non-cycling public just put all people who cycle a bicycle into one single homogeneous group i.e. "Cyclists" :mad:

    "Cyclists" is a term which should be banned.... Mainly because people who cycle are one of the most diverse groups of people you could find, and who don't all meet up once a week as if in one giant club!


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  • #12
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 28,347 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    who don't all meet up once a week as if in one giant club!
    Did you not get your invite?


  • #13
    davef1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 223 ✭✭davef1000


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    and who don't all meet up once a week as if in one giant club!

    Lots of us do. Sunday morning, 10am.


  • #14
    SCOOP 64
    Registered Users Posts: 5,206 ✭✭✭SCOOP 64


    just one thing i don't like about cyclist, why they don't go single file when a car waiting to over take then go back.
    know some will do,
    i know ",because we don't have too,we as much right on the road as you ,which is true, you should wait and be more patience"
    i know it will cut the conversion between the 2 for a few seconds by going single file.
    whats for general consensus of this with cyclist?


  • #15
    asteroids over berlin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭asteroids over berlin


    SCOOP 64 wrote: »
    just one thing i don't like about cyclist, why they don't go single file when a car waiting to over take then go back.
    know some will do,
    i know ",because we don't have too,we as much right on the road as you ,which is true, you should wait and be more patience"
    i know it will cut the conversion between the 2 for a few seconds by going single file.
    whats for general consensus of this with cyclist?
    big cyclist myself, however riding 2 abreast or more is just taking the piss as well as endangering yourself and a wally motorist determined to pass at all costs with incoming traffic ahead


  • #16
    harringtonp
    Registered Users Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭harringtonp


    When the road is narrow and there is not enough room for a driver to overtake a double line our club tend to single up.

    In other cases the thinking often is that the opposite side of the road needs to be clear for a driver to overtake safely and a double line is shorter and easier to pass than a long single line


  • #17
    SCOOP 64
    Registered Users Posts: 5,206 ✭✭✭SCOOP 64


    asteroids over berlin wrote: »
    big cyclist myself, however riding 2 abreast or more is just taking the piss as well as endangering yourself and a wally motorist determined to pass at all costs with incoming traffic ahead
    Refreshing post, was half expecting to be slaughtered .
    (ps would never try to over take 2 unless i believe there was plenty of room which rarely is)


  • #18
    North of 32
    Registered Users Posts: 307 ✭✭North of 32


    asteroids over berlin wrote: »
    big cyclist myself, however riding 2 abreast or more is just taking the piss as well as endangering yourself and a wally motorist determined to pass at all costs with incoming traffic ahead

    It's important to be considerate to all road users but riding single file in the scenario you're describing would probably be the most dangerous option. It's inviting the driver to pass in the same lane because of oncoming traffic which means coming dangerously close to the cyclists.

    It is not the right of cyclists to behave selfishly but neither is it the right of drivers to make progress at their desired speed at all times, especially when it would be unsafe.


  • #19
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    The main thing here is how the media and the non-cycling public just put all people who cycle a bicycle into one single homogeneous group i.e. "Cyclists" :mad:

    "Cyclists" is a term which should be banned.... Mainly because people who cycle are one of the most diverse groups of people you could find, and who don't all meet up once a week as if in one giant club!

    A person who cycles is a cyclist just as one who commutes is a commuter. What other term do you have in mind?


  • #20
    asteroids over berlin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭asteroids over berlin


    North of 32 wrote: »
    asteroids over berlin wrote: »
    big cyclist myself, however riding 2 abreast or more is just taking the piss as well as endangering yourself and a wally motorist determined to pass at all costs with incoming traffic ahead

    It's important to be considerate to all road users but riding single file in the scenario you're describing would probably be the most dangerous option. It's inviting the driver to pass in the same lane because of oncoming traffic which means coming dangerously close to the cyclists.

    It is not the right of cyclists to behave selfishly but neither is it the right of drivers to make progress at their desired speed at all times, especially when it would be unsafe.
    i agree but i have seen and personally believe some drivers get pissed off seeing cyclists 2abreast etc, where as single file the motorist is more at ease, of course there are dicks and will attempt a stupid move on narrow roads, however i believe cyclists should drop into single file when a vehicle approaches from behind. Personally i am very aware of this as sadly a close friend died cycling home from work -a large vehicle approaching from behind and then taking a left turn, this happened quite a few years ago now when most folk only had 1 car in the driveway! Stay safe!


  • #21
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users Posts: 8,429 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    is_that_so wrote: »
    A person who cycles is a cyclist just as one who commutes is a commuter. What other term do you have in mind?

    Human...

    Do you call everyone driving a Van a "Vannist?"


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  • #22
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    Human...

    Do you call everyone driving a Van a "Vannist?"

    Well they drive so they are drivers.


  • #23
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users Posts: 8,429 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    davef1000 wrote: »
    Lots of us do. Sunday morning, 10am.
    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    Did you not get your invite?

    Which bike do I need?

    Gravel, CX, Road, Tri,/Aero XC MTB, Enduro/DH MTB, Ebike, commuter, tricycle?


  • #24
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users Posts: 8,429 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Well they drive so they are drivers.

    Gold Star for you...


  • #25
    Duckjob
    Registered Users Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Duckjob


    SCOOP 64 wrote: »
    just one thing i don't like about cyclist, why they don't go single file when a car waiting to over take then go back.
    know some will do,
    i know ",because we don't have too,we as much right on the road as you ,which is true, you should wait and be more patience"
    i know it will cut the conversion between the 2 for a few seconds by going single file.
    whats for general consensus of this with cyclist?


    OK, in the following answer I'm not speaking for "my people :pac:", just my own opinion:

    I find the whole "single file/double file" is in many cases a complete red herring. The reason I say this is that in many cases when drivers complain about cyclists not in single file it is on roads where the driver cannot pass a single cyclist safely unless the other side of the road is free and they can cross to there to overtake.

    When I hear drivers beeping their horns at cyclists on a narrow road where this is the case, I see an incompetent driver who fails to grasp the basics of safe overtaking of slower, more vulnerable road users , because in such cases, single file / double file etc is irrelevent.


  • #26
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users Posts: 8,429 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    SCOOP 64 wrote: »
    just one thing i don't like about cyclist, why they don't go
    whats for general consensus of this with cyclist?

    Which "cyclist" who was he or she?

    You would have to ask all the "Cyclist"


  • #27
    Borderfox
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,257 Mod ✭✭✭✭Borderfox


    If our group is out for a spin we will single out only when its safe to do so, I have had to go back to drivers and explain this to them and they are fine (although there are one or two that wont accept this)


  • #28
    tomasrojo
    Registered Users Posts: 11,741 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    SCOOP 64 wrote: »
    (ps would never try to over take 2 unless i believe there was plenty of room which rarely is)

    I don't do group cycling, so I have no real insight, but what you say here is the rationale usually given for groups cycling two abreast: it makes the driver wait until there's sufficient room to pass. Plus it allows the passing manoeuvre to be over in half the time.

    This is a really well-worn topic of conversation on here.


  • #29
    07Lapierre
    Registered Users Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    SCOOP 64 wrote: »
    just one thing i don't like about cyclist, why they don't go single file when a car waiting to over take then go back.
    know some will do,
    i know ",because we don't have too,we as much right on the road as you ,which is true, you should wait and be more patience"
    i know it will cut the conversion between the 2 for a few seconds by going single file.
    whats for general consensus of this with cyclist?

    It depends....
    Depends on how many cyclists are in the group
    Depends on the road type/conditions
    Depends if there is oncoming traffic
    Depends on the experience/ inexperience on the motorists

    Lots of factors to consider. But if you have theee four or more cyclists in a group, the safest option (for everyone) it to cycle two abreast.


  • #30
    yop
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 16,722 Mod ✭✭✭✭yop


    07Lapierre wrote: »
    It depends....
    Depends on how many cyclists are in the group
    Depends on the road type/conditions
    Depends if there is oncoming traffic
    Depends on the experience/ inexperience on the motorists

    Lots of factors to consider. But if you have theee four or more cyclists in a group, the safest option (for everyone) it to cycle two abreast.

    Agreed and the people who don't understand are people who don't cycle. And when someone does take up cycling they then realize vulnerable they are on the road.

    A lot of it is the social media ability to be a faceless warrior who can slate/shoot abuse at people online, when drivers are in their metal boxes they feel the same invincibility.
    As we have seen with drivers who have killed cyclists the sentences are light so there is no fear factor.


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  • #31
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 28,347 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    SCOOP 64 wrote: »
    just one thing i don't like about cyclist, why they don't go single file when a car waiting to over take then go back.
    know some will do,
    i know ",because we don't have too,we as much right on the road as you ,which is true, you should wait and be more patience"
    i know it will cut the conversion between the 2 for a few seconds by going single file.
    whats for general consensus of this with cyclist?

    The irony of the lads driving round with four empty seats complaining of others taking up too much space. Do you pull over in heavy urban traffic when a faster cyclist comes up behind? What's the general consensus of this with drivist?


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