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Which degree is the most useless?

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    #92
    vriesmays
    Registered Users Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭vriesmays


    Retail management is one of the best degrees a young person can do. Plenty of jobs available, no need to emigrate and recession proof.


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    #93
    El Tarangu
    Registered Users Posts: 1,615 ✭✭✭El Tarangu


    the dark phantom wrote: »
    European Studies is still going and just as useless as ever.

    There are lots of European Studies' graduates earning €8k per month tax-free working for the EC who would beg to differ...


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    #94
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    chicorytip wrote: »
    A third level education should not be viewed solely as a means to attaining a highly paid career. Sociologists, Philosophers and Geography teachers are no less worthy members of society than Bankers, Lawyers or Accountants.
    You should read the essays of Cardinal Newman.

    Absolutely. Learning for the sake of learning shouldn’t be undervalued. I know a person can be an autodidact but studying something under the tutelage of others helps guide a person through the subject and will sharpen their analytical skills.


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    #95
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    70 degrees, weird angle.


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    #96
    Yurt2
    Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    the dark phantom wrote: »
    European Studies is still going and just as useless as ever.

    Lol, I have a neighbour who did exactly that course in UL. Got hired by a German multinational out of the gate; subsequently went to work in Germany, Japan and the US and almost certainly earns more money than anyone on this thread (if that's what your metric is for usefulness, which I think it is).

    Some people don't have a breeze.


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    #97
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    vriesmays wrote: »
    Retail management is one of the best degrees a young person can do. Plenty of jobs available, no need to emigrate and recession proof.
    But just do a retail management training course in the store itself. Obviously much more practical.


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    #98
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,805 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    vriesmays wrote:
    Retail management is one of the best degrees a young person can do. Plenty of jobs available, no need to emigrate and recession proof.


    With better than average income and job security, what more could you want, oh wait....


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    #99
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    vriesmays wrote: »
    Retail management is one of the best degrees a young person can do. Plenty of jobs available, no need to emigrate and recession proof.

    There's a level 8 in retail management?


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    #100
    vriesmays
    Registered Users Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭vriesmays


    http://www.dit.ie/studyatdit/undergraduate/programmescourses/allcourses/retailservicesmanagementdt343.html


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    #101
    ToddyDoody
    Registered Users Posts: 4,421 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    vriesmays wrote: »
    Film studies.

    You'd think but could be a back door into marketing related jobs.


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    #102
    BlackandGreen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 310 ✭✭BlackandGreen


    ToddyDoody wrote: »
    You'd think but could be a back door into marketing related jobs.


    Sad state of affairs when people see marketing as a better thing than actual film making.


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    #103
    El Tarangu
    Registered Users Posts: 1,615 ✭✭✭El Tarangu


    BlackandGreen wrote: »
    Sad state of affairs when people see marketing as a better thing than actual film making.

    Film studies isn't filmmalking; it's textual analysis, and how a particular scene embodies Elsassaer's feminist theory of melodrama, and other such nonsense.


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    #104
    tjhook
    Registered Users Posts: 728 ✭✭✭tjhook


    Masters Degree in "Leadership & Innovation in the Public Service"


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    #105
    blackbox
    Registered Users Posts: 4,100 ✭✭✭blackbox


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    Theology.

    I know someone who studied theology and now he has a good job as a bishop.


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    #106
    Grayson
    Registered Users Posts: 16,124 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Dial Hard wrote: »
    Philosophy, going by some of the recent posts here.
    begbysback wrote: »
    Philosophy has proven its worth to humanity, difficulty arises when trying to monetize, same as Art and such others, however it could be argued that they are worth more to humanity.

    Philosophy graduates make more money than any other humanity.

    http://dailynous.com/2019/01/03/philosophy-majors-make-money-majors-humanities-field/


    I did philosophy and maths because I wanted to study problem solving and logic. And there's really no other set of subjects that can train you in that. Even sciences tend to focus on certain types of problem solving and are very limited in the amount of training they devote to actual logic.

    I figured that if i wanted to learn how to think clearly that was that best way to do it. And I use it every day. My job is to solve problems and create frameworks that people use to limit the mistakes they make.

    The number of what i would consider stupid arguments here is ridiculous. I see people arguing their point with anecdotal evidence, strawman arguments, arguments from authority etc.Sometimes they use inductive logic to come to deductive conclusions. Sometimes it's the other way round.

    If there's one thing I think should be studied in school (with the exception of first aid for obvious reasons) it's logic. people should be taught how to think clearly. they should be shown examples of the biases that can affect their thinking and how to use their intellect to their best ability.


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    #107
    Grayson
    Registered Users Posts: 16,124 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    tjhook wrote: »
    Masters Degree in "Leadership & Innovation in the Public Service"

    You'll find most of the people who do those types of masters are already working in the area. So for them it's a way to get a promotion.


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    #108
    tjhook
    Registered Users Posts: 728 ✭✭✭tjhook


    Grayson wrote: »
    You'll find most of the people who do those types of masters are already working in the area. So for them it's a way to get a promotion.


    Yeah I kinda guessed that. In reality, I don't think there's such a thing as a "useless degree". Even if the student themselves finds it interesting, then it's not useless.


    While my suggestion was somewhat in jest, I was half serious. Those courses that exist to put you ahead of the other internal candidate - they're of use to get you (rather than your colleague) the promotion, but I think they make very little difference to the world beyond that.


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    #109
    Roger Hassenforder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    tjhook wrote: »
    Yeah I kinda guessed that. In reality, I don't think there's such a thing as a "useless degree". Even if the student themselves finds it interesting, then it's not useless.


    While my suggestion was somewhat in jest, I was half serious. Those courses that exist to put you ahead of the other internal candidate - they're of use to get you (rather than your colleague) the promotion, but I think they make very little difference to the world beyond that.

    Theyre a type of CPD/ training as well. I doubt anyone outside the public service would do one


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    #110
    Grayson
    Registered Users Posts: 16,124 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    tjhook wrote: »
    Yeah I kinda guessed that. In reality, I don't think there's such a thing as a "useless degree". Even if the student themselves finds it interesting, then it's not useless.


    While my suggestion was somewhat in jest, I was half serious. Those courses that exist to put you ahead of the other internal candidate - they're of use to get you (rather than your colleague) the promotion, but I think they make very little difference to the world beyond that.

    When you hear of people in the US specialising in Vulcan or Klingon or Elvish, you're probably on the useless track.

    Although i did hear of a guy who's job it is to create fake languages for movies and TV. He created Dothraki for game of Thrones. Stillm, I'd imagine those jobs are few and far between.


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    #111
    vriesmays
    Registered Users Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭vriesmays


    Grayson wrote: »
    If there's one thing I think should be studied in school (with the exception of first aid for obvious reasons) it's logic. people should be taught how to think clearly. they should be shown examples of the biases that can affect their thinking and how to use their intellect to their best ability.
    But then there wouldn't be a generation of school kids thinking with their emotions and learning essential-for-life subjects like LGBT studies.


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    #112
    mariaalice
    Registered Users Posts: 12,361 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice


    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/percent-of-world-with-col_n_581807

    6.7% Of World Has College Degree.


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