Skoda Enyaq

McGiver · 04-09-2020 4:32pm

liamog wrote: »

Can you share them, the only one I've seen on thread is the 35.5k from Skoda Italy. Based on their pricing it's would put the Enyaq 50 below the ID.3 1st price here which means a rough estimate of 31k. I'd be interested in the same comparison in other markets.

I have Czech figures if it's of interest to you?

liamog · 04-09-2020 4:33pm

McGiver wrote: »

I have Czech figures if it's of interest to you?

Perfect, can you cross ref them with ID.3 1st prices.

liamog · 04-09-2020 4:36pm

Italian price for the Enyaq 60 is 39,450 which put's it half way between a 1st and 1st Plus ID.3.
Therefore my educated Irish guess is 37k (half way between our 1st and 1st Plus)

McGiver · 04-09-2020 5:17pm

liamog wrote:

Italian price for the Enyaq 60 is 39,450 which put's it half way between a 1st and 1st Plus ID.3. Therefore my educated Irish guess is 37k (half way between our 1st and 1st Plus)

Is that after grants the 60? Do they even have grants in Italy?

McGiver · 04-09-2020 5:37pm

liamog wrote:

Perfect, can you cross ref them with ID.3 1st prices.

No Enyaq 50 for CZ market at all - higher speeds (130 motorway to be increased to 140), colder in winter, driving habits, mountainous terrain.

Enyaq 60 - starts at 40,000 EUR, the exchange rate is a bit lower now, so 39,000 would be acceptable, heat pump, upgrade to 11 kW DC, upgrade to 100 kW DC, and I think towbar are all paid extras, roughly 800-1000 quid each

Note: No EV subsidies in CZ but also no VRT equivalent, VAT is 21% currently (wasn't reduced due to Covid)

That could be 35-36k Irish landed, add 100 kW DC and 11 kW AC options to match it to Kona and you're 37-38k. Probably a tad cheaper and much better car for sure, a bit less range but 100 kW DC is nice.

How much is Kona? Does it have a heat pump?

CoBo55 · 04-09-2020 5:56pm

One more ceist from the uneducated. What’s an ionity charger? I saw a fella trying to plug in his car to one at the Athlone services earlier as the other charge points were occupied. A guy in a leaf was doing some dukes of Hazzard parking to get the cable to reach the snout of the car... The guy at the ionity chargers was looking very puzzled.

Black_Knight · 04-09-2020 9:10pm

CoBo55 wrote: »

One more ceist from the uneducated. What’s an ionity charger? I saw a fella trying to plug in his car to one at the Athlone services earlier as the other charge points were occupied. A guy in a leaf was doing some dukes of Hazzard parking to get the cable to reach the snout of the car... The guy at the ionity chargers was looking very puzzled.

Ionity are a private company backed by a few car manufacturers (vag, Kia, Hyundai) who install very high powered car chargers. They're over twice the cost of esb units, but can deliver 3 times the rate of charge of your car can handle it.

They do not support chademo, ie. Leaf cars. They are CCS connections only

CoBo55 · 04-09-2020 10:23pm

Black_Knight wrote: »

Ionity are a private company backed by a few car manufacturers (vag, Kia, Hyundai) who install very high powered car chargers. They're over twice the cost of esb units, but can deliver 3 times the rate of charge of your car can handle it.

They do not support chademo, ie. Leaf cars. They are CCS connections only

Will the Enyaq have CCS as standard or will it be an optional extra?

Black_Knight · 05-09-2020 8:15am

CoBo55 wrote: »

Will the Enyaq have CCS as standard or will it be an optional extra?

Standard. As far as I know the leaf is the only electric car being produced with chademo. Oh, Tesla doesn't use ccs either (European model 3 cars do), but everything else is CCS

markpb · 05-09-2020 10:46am

Black_Knight wrote: »

Standard. As far as I know the leaf is the only electric car being produced with chademo. Oh, Tesla doesn't use ccs either (European model 3 cars do), but everything else is CCS

I thought all European Teslas since 2019 come with CCS as standard?

BBMcQ · 05-09-2020 3:44pm

markpb wrote: »

I thought all European Teslas since 2019 come with CCS as standard?

This is true. I don’t know what the other poster was talking about. It’s hardly relevant what they produce on the US cars... you can even get a CCS adaptor for the older Tesla’s.

McGiver · 05-09-2020 4:22pm

OK, so Enyaq configurator is out on the UK Škoda website.

Seems no Enyaq 50 for the UK market either as in case of CZ. I would assume that it won't be available for the Irish market either due to right-hand drive.

https://cc.skoda-auto.com/visualizer/gbr/en-GB/trimline-scenic?activePage=trimlines&color=K4K4&configurationId=&extraEquipments=&id=GBR%3Bskoda%3B2021%3B5AZFF2%3B0%3BGYE2YE2%3Bmda20200331104014%3Ben-GB%3B%3B64001%3B64001&interior=EO&modifiedPages=&snapshotVersion=d2d1e087-7243-4019-bee4-efdf27f8c33e&trimline=5AF%7C606400164001&visitedPages=

Upgrade to 100 kW DC is only 500 Euro, that's good! But quite a few costly options for heat pump, infotainment etc increasing the price.

Interestingly, Enyaq 50 is available on the DE website and starts at €34,420 and as expected there is no option of upgrading to 100 kW DC or 11 kW AC for Enyaq 50, this is available only for Enyaq 60.

Enyaq 60 starts at €39,470 on the DE website.

EDIT: Irish Škoda configurator website says "Prices coming soon". Actually, Austrian, Belgian, Danish, Dutch, Hungarian, French, Norwegian, Irish, Romanian, Portuguese and Polish sites all don't have pricing yet. So far it seems only CZ, UK, IT, DE, CH, FI and SV to have pricing.

mun1 · 05-09-2020 4:55pm

Top of the range with most of the goodies that i might want tops out at £52k on uk site which would translate to something like €65k here ? Be interesting to see Irish price list for the options .

McGiver · 05-09-2020 4:58pm

mun1 wrote: »

Top of the range with most of the goodies that i might want tops out at £52k on uk site which would translate to something like €65k here ? Be interesting to see Irish price list for the options .

I checked UK vs CZ vs DE option prices and they are very similar.

liamog · 05-09-2020 7:57pm

Someone posted these observations on reddit.

Enyaq 60 (58kWh net capacity) is priced at £33,450 before plug-in grant of £3,000. The final price will be less than £31,000. In comparison, Kona and Niro 39kWh models also cost ~£30,000 after the grant.

Kona 39kWh has 305 km of WLTP range while Enyaq 60 has 390 km range. Also, Enyaq is a much bigger and spacious vehicle.

Enyaq 80 (77kWh net capacity) is priced at £38,950. With plug-in grant, the price will be ~ £36,000. Kona and Niro 64 kWh also costs the same and has 455 km range compared to Enyaq's 510 km range.

I'm sure some will complain that you have to pay £495 for a reversing camera.

McGiver · 05-09-2020 11:51pm

liamog wrote:

I'm sure some will complain that you have to pay Â£495 for a reversing camera.

Some of the "extras" are bordering on ridiculous...

Navigation/infotainment package 800 quid, alarm 200 quid, parking sensors 400 quid, proper steering wheel 300 quid etc.

digiman · 06-09-2020 8:09am

McGiver wrote: »

Some of the "extras" are bordering on ridiculous...

Navigation/infotainment package 800 quid, alarm 200 quid, parking sensors 400 quid, proper steering wheel 300 quid etc.

Will most extras not be bundled in under the trim name of the vehicle like sportline or something similar? I priced up the spec I wanted to around 53k.

Also how come the 80 version acceleration is only 8.7s? I thought there were faster versions of this.

Black_Knight · 06-09-2020 8:19am

digiman wrote: »

Will most extras not be bundled in under the trim name of the vehicle like sportline or something similar? I priced up the spec I wanted to around 53k.

Also how come the 80 version acceleration is only 8.7s? I thought there were faster versions of this.

80 version = bigger battery pack = increased weight = acceleration. In fact isn't it the 80 version (or whatever the top version is) in the id3 which will only take 4 people due to weight limits?

Irishphotodesk · 06-09-2020 8:30am

Black_Knight wrote: »

80 version = bigger battery pack = increased weight = acceleration. In fact isn't it the 80 version (or whatever the top version is) in the id3 which will only take 4 people due to weight limits?

From memory the 80 version has a secondary battery to enable 4wheel drive (or is that the RS version?)

Paddygreen · 06-09-2020 8:34am

Sounds like something you would call a Mongolian donkey. Definate fail there when they chose the name. Yo ladies, want to cruise in my Enyak? Not going to work is it?

8-10 · 06-09-2020 8:42am

Paddygreen wrote: »

Sounds like something you would call a Mongolian donkey. Definate fail there when they chose the name. Yo ladies, want to cruise in my Enyak? Not going to work is it?

Yeah definite negative point that you won't be as likely to pick up the ladies for a cruise in your electric Skoda SUV because of....checks notes....the name

Irishphotodesk · 06-09-2020 8:50am

Paddygreen wrote: »

Sounds like something you would call a Mongolian donkey. Definate fail there when they chose the name. Yo ladies, want to cruise in my Enyak? Not going to work is it?

It’s marketed as a family SUV, isn’t it ?

Showed the wife several times yesterday eventually she said it was nice (she is REALLY against the idea of electric vehicles)..... so maybe in 3/4/5yrs, when we can afford it, we might get one.

Pkiernan · 06-09-2020 8:59am

And after dropping >50k, youre still in a Skoda!

Mental

CoBo55 · 06-09-2020 10:40am

Pkiernan wrote: »

And after dropping >50k, youre still in a Skoda!

Mental

Seriously? Is that all you can contribute?

lafors · 06-09-2020 4:18pm

CoBo55 wrote: »

Seriously? Is that all you can contribute?

Ah cmon don't feed the troll :rolleyes:

McGiver · 07-09-2020 1:15pm

Right, so I've thrown in some options into the DE configurator for the Enyaq 60, roughly matching Kona specs. Calculating the VAT difference, VRT, VRT rebate, SEAI grant etc, I've come to a price of 41.5k in Ireland, that's Kona money. Yep, it's a better car, has RWD, bigger boot, better design, 40% faster DC charging, but has 10% less battery and probably 15-20% less range.

The only USPs imho are the RWD, the design and the towbar option (at 1200 quid extra).

07-09-2020 1:19pm

liamog wrote: »

........

I'm sure some will complain that you have to pay £495 for a reversing camera.

Regardless of spec I'd reckon Enyaq 60at Kona and Niro 39kWh money looks potentially very decent.

McGiver · 07-09-2020 1:23pm

Augeo wrote: »

Regardless of spec I'd reckon Enyaq 60at Kona and Niro 39kWh money looks potentially very decent.

See above, not Kona 39 kWh money. It's Kona 64 kWh money if you compare apples to apples (similar specs)...Enyaq 60 base that doesn't have sat-nav or parking sensors or proper steering wheel!

liamog · 07-09-2020 1:46pm

McGiver wrote: »

See above, not Kona 39 kWh money. It's Kona 64 kWh money if you compare apples to apples (similar specs)...Enyaq 60 base that doesn't have sat-nav or parking sensors or proper steering wheel!

Uhh, it has rear parking sensors and a steering wheel?
The Kona EV also didn't come with sat nav here for a while.

At least with VAG cars you have the option to add things if you want them.

McGiver · 07-09-2020 2:02pm

liamog wrote: »

Uhh, it has rear parking sensors and a steering wheel?
The Kona EV also didn't come with sat nav here for a while.

At least with VAG cars you have the option to add things if you want them.

Sorry, yeah it does have rear sensors, I've checked now.

Anyway, add some very basic options and the price goes up quickly, and that's before I even go to the more expensive one like HUD, Heat Pump, Assist, Seating, Family, Convenience PLUS packages...

Park BASIC (front, rear sensors and camera) - 580 quid
Infotainment (basically a sat nav) BASIC - 740 quid
Climate control BASIC - 460 quid
Drive BASIC (steering wheel where you can change driving modes and level of regen) - 200 quid - I mean this has to be in an EV

Alarm (really?) - 230 quid

Was sat nav an extra on the Kona, really?

TLDR - it's Kona money if you go apples for apples

Skoda Enyaq

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