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N4 - Collooney to Castlebaldwin [open to traffic]

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    #122
    tigerboon
    Registered Users Posts: 721 ✭✭✭tigerboon


    roadmaster wrote: »
    Id say with site set up etc we could be looking at well after st Patrick's day before any heavy work starts

    Time enough for earthworks. Only burning diesel before that.


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    #123
    HabibiLibnen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 41 ✭HabibiLibnen


    Is there any chance they'd start before the sod turning? As already mentioned, it's just a PR event and I've seen sod turning events for schools etc happening after construction commenced.


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    #124
    roadmaster
    Registered Users Posts: 3,593 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    tigerboon wrote: »


    Time enough for earthworks. Only burning diesel before that.

    They got be getting rid of the bushes and hedges before 1st March Aldo I I know technically under planning they can remove them after the1st March but the grennies still would winge. Since you mentioned roadbridge I have seen a few ads for them looking for staff in the west


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    #125
    marno21
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    No rush or anything

    https://twitter.com/sligococo/status/1088165692036337665


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    #126
    marno21
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    Anyone from the area know if the hedges along the route have been cleared?

    If not, construction work will start approx 3 days before the hedge cutting ban comes into effect which rules that out for 6 months.

    Funny how such a straightforward project can be turned into such a dumpster fire under the eye of this individual.


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    #127
    roadmaster
    Registered Users Posts: 3,593 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    marno21 wrote: »
    Anyone from the area know if the hedges along the route have been cleared?

    If not, construction work will start approx 3 days before the hedge cutting ban comes into effect which rules that out for 6 months.

    Funny how such a straightforward project can be turned into such a dumpster fire under the eye of this individual.

    As mentioned in my last post i believe there is a clause under planning that you can remove the hedges after the official ban but the optics look bad if you do


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    #128
    roadmaster
    Registered Users Posts: 3,593 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    What is the long term plan for road type from this road to mcneads bridge? Is it going to be a mix of HQDC,Motorway,Type 2 or will they for less confusion for the standard motorist have 1 type only?


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    #129
    BelfastVanMan
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    roadmaster wrote: »
    What is the long term plan for road type from this road to mcneads bridge? Is it going to be a mix of HQDC,Motorway,Type 2 or will they for less confusion for the standard motorist have 1 type only?
    I THINK...It's going to be Type 1 DC from Sligo to Collooney, Type 2 DC Collooney to Castlebaldwin, WS2 Castlebaldwin to Carrick, Type 2 DC Carrick to Longford, Type 1 DC (Inc. Motorway) Longford to Lucan.


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    #130
    marno21
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    BelfastVanMan wrote: »
    I THINK...It's going to be Type 1 DC from Sligo to Collooney, Type 2 DC Collooney to Castlebaldwin, WS2 Castlebaldwin to Carrick, Type 2 DC Carrick to Longford, Type 1 DC (Inc. Motorway) Longford to Lucan.
    This is correct. Planned improvements between now and circa 2030 are 2+2 from Collooney-Castlebaldwin, 2+2 around Carrick on Shannon to the Dromod/Roosky bypass, and the entire gap between J17 of the Mullingar bypasss and the Dromod/Roosky bypass which will be an unknown standard.

    The biggest change here will be that the DC now will start north of Carrick-on-Shannon and run the whole way to Dublin instead of starting at Mullingar. That's an extra 73km of dual carriageway which will make a substantial difference. It's likely that the Castlebaldwin-Boyle-Carrick section will be 2+2 retrofitted post 2027 giving continuous Sligo-Dublin DC.


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    #131
    L1011
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    The 2+2 retrofit will be relatively easy due to the sections being new builds from the 1990s/early 2000s and frequently featuring climbing and passing lanes anyway. There's some limited grade separation too, e.g. the junction for Ballinafad. All good road built to a very high standard for the time, and with minimal encroachment over time - that its mostly offline from Boyle to Castlebaldwin and a relatively large chunk north of Carrick helped there in terms of accesses going on to the old N4.

    A few compact GSJs and unfortunately probably a roundabout at each end of the Boyle bypass should solve all the crossing traffic.


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    #132
    marno21
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    Bingo

    https://www.rte.ie/news/connacht/2019/0129/1026310-n4/


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    #133
    highwaymaniac
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    HabibiLibnen wrote: »
    Only €150 million for a major upgrade. Albeit short but that's not expensive. Compare that to €1.4 million for a news room revamp at RTE...

    Also bare in mind that this is the total budget including vat, land,design, supervision etc.


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    #134
    veryangryman
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    Delighted for Sligo. Those crosses are an awful sight (though a reminder if how dangerous) on the existing stretch.

    Downside of course is 2 years of Stop/Go systems and the likes i guess.


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    #135
    BelfastVanMan
    Registered Users Posts: 667 ✭✭✭BelfastVanMan


    veryangryman wrote: »
    Delighted for Sligo. Those crosses are an awful sight (though a reminder if how dangerous) on the existing stretch.

    Downside of course is 2 years of Stop/Go systems and the likes i guess.

    Shouldn't be too bad....all offline bar the two tie-ins.


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    #136
    marno21
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    BelfastVanMan wrote: »
    Shouldn't be too bad....all offline bar the two tie-ins.

    2/3km closest to Collooney is online upgrade


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    #137
    marno21
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,344 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Confirmation that this project will start this month and that the contract has been awarded to Roadbridge

    https://www.independent.ie/regionals/sligochampion/news/road-saw-almost-30-deaths-in-30-years-37766526.html


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    #138
    roadmaster
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    marno21 wrote: »
    Confirmation that this project will start this month and that the contract has been awarded to Roadbridge

    https://www.independent.ie/regionals/sligochampion/news/road-saw-almost-30-deaths-in-30-years-37766526.html

    I was in Sligo last week and seen roadbridge pickups driving around. They must be planning on starting very soon


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    #139
    marno21
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    https://twitter.com/CISireland/status/1098931496491118593

    Sod turning today also in Sligo as per post below

    https://www.oceanfm.ie/2019/02/22/sod-officially-turned-on-new-n4-stretch-by-taoiseach-leo-varadkar/


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    #140
    hondar
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    Official sod turning today.plant has been in there working for the last 2 weeks.


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    #141
    marno21
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    https://irl.eu-supply.com/ctm/Supplier/PublicTenders/ViewNotice/211946

    Tender award to Roadbridge in full.


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    #142
    JupiterKid
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    hondar wrote: »
    Official sod turning today.plant has been in there working for the last 2 weeks.


    Glad to hear this much delayed and urgently needed scheme has finally started. But why on Earth did Leo V show up for the sod turning? Wasn’t Shane Ross’s présence enough?

    Looks like Leo would turn out for the opening of a pack of crisps...:rolleyes:


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    #143
    marno21
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    JupiterKid wrote: »
    Glad to hear this much delayed and urgently needed scheme has finally started. But why on Earth did Leo V show up for the sod turning? Wasn’t Shane Ross’s présence enough?

    Looks like Leo would turn out for the opening of a pack of crisps...:rolleyes:

    They have custom made Ireland 2040 hard hats and hi vis jackets now. May as well make the most of them


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    #144
    highwaymaniac
    Registered Users Posts: 208 ✭✭highwaymaniac


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    marno21 wrote: »
    https://irl.eu-supply.com/ctm/Supplier/PublicTenders/ViewNotice/211946

    Tender award to Roadbridge in full.

    Lowest was €70M highest nearly €98M that's some spread and only 4 tenders received!


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    #145
    Aontachtoir
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    JupiterKid wrote: »
    But why on Earth did Leo V show up for the sod turning? Wasn’t Shane Ross’s présence enough?

    National infrastructure deserves national attention. ;) That and there isn't going to be many other sod turnings for the next few years.


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    #146
    marno21
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    Aontachtoir wrote: »
    National infrastructure deserves national attention. ;) That and there isn't going to be many other sod turnings for the next few years.
    N5 Westport-Turlough, N22 Macroom-Ballyvourney in 2019. No sod turning at Dunkettle (yet!) which is a bit surprising.


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    #147
    spacetweek
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    highwaymaniac wrote: »
    X

    Lowest was €70M highest nearly €98M that's some spread and only 4 tenders received!

    Very cheap, I wonder why some schemes are so incredibly expensive compared to others, even taking into account standard, terrain etc.


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    #148
    marno21
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    Stop go system in place along here until 2021 as per AA Roadwatch. Looks like it will be a long 2 years for any N4 regulars


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    #149
    shanec1928
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    marno21 wrote: »
    Stop go system in place along here until 2021 as per AA Roadwatch. Looks like it will be a long 2 years for any N4 regulars

    Great..


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    #150
    veryangryman
    Registered Users Posts: 5,531 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    On the mainline? Ah ffs i thought road was to be parallel


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    #151
    spacetweek
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    veryangryman wrote: »
    On the mainline? Ah ffs i thought road was to be parallel

    It is parallel; I don’t see why you’d need a stop/go system?


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