General Ryanair discusion

You do realise these are not Ryanair ground staff?

IngazZagni wrote: »

That would apply to the vast majority of ground staff but is totally off the point. Ground staff are paid to provide a service to an airline and that includes implementing rules and procedures like allowing priority passengers through the gate first. If this is not possible then they should not advertise this service.

It always amazed me how people would buy priority and be the first to queue long before the gate opened. It really defeated the purpose particularity since seats were allocated.



At least you are getting two bags now; that is the focus of priority now not getting on first.

Stevek101 wrote: »

You do realise these are not Ryanair ground staff?

How relevant is it to his point that Ryanair sold him a service and didn’t deliver it though?

Either they don’t sell it or they make sure the facilities of the given airport and whatever contract they have to use external staff will allow to consistently deliver it.

Priority boarding on most LCCs is a bit of a joke nowadays. Either the entire plane has it (I was boarding an EI 320 recently in priority and was in a queue from 1/4 the way down the jetbridge with fellow "priority" passengers); or it's not respected at the gate (I flew Norwegian recently and in both Dublin and Stockholm it wasn't even mentioned) or you end up first onto a bus.

Legacy/alliance carriers generally do it much better. I think the US is the best at it - Group 1, 2, 3, 4 etc with delineated queues and a clear hierarchy of who boards when (based on status, travel class and then rows); properly enforced by the gate staff. I've seen Lufthansa etc in Europe operate the same.

The move by Ryanair re cabin bags basically shifts the goalposts on what priority boarding is all about: 70% of the plane has it, and it's really to let you on with your bag, getting on first and not having to stand in a mile long queue is really a secondary consideration.

Bob24 wrote: »

I don’t know about saying it is shifting the goalpost ... if it is acknowledged that the main point of buying the service is that you are allowed a cabin bag that on top of that it is accepted that depending on the airport you might not be garanteed to board in a priority group, there is no basis for selling the service to customers as “priority boarding”. It’s not shifting the goalpost to me ... more like telling people they’ll play ice hockey and directing them at a football pitch!

I don't disagree one bit. I can see a situation where Ryanair goes the way of the US carriers; so Flexi Plus will board in Group 1, Plus will board Group 2, Priority will board Group 3 and everyone else Group 4. Not sure the impact or feasibility of this mind you in their airport setups. But it feels that already they're heading that way. They have dedicated Flexi Plus bag drops in places and so on already. And then the amount of cabin bags you're allowed will tie to the group.

The current setup is just a pain in the ass at the gate nowadays.

Flew to and from Faro last week with RA, and to be honest couldn't have been any better, was exactly what I paid for...

Priority boarding is definitely of no benefit unless you are bringing very old or very young family.

At Dublin I relaxed and waited for almost everyone to board and I strolled along and out to the Aircraft, I did pay an additional €14 for a seat towards the back of the plane, so was right near the exit.

I had one small haversack type bag with me and was space for it in the overhead.

Returning from Faro, there's two que's however you all go into the same waiting area anyways until they open the doors to walk out onto the ramp towards the aircraft, you can by-pass a lot of people if you travel light!

The aircraft was on time, only very slight delays due to Dublin ATC and a bit of low cloud coming back.

Off the AC and through Dub passport check in no time..

Overall, I find Ryanair, cheap&cheerful, flight attendants young/cheerful/do the job as you'd expect.

Although with the new charges for seats and carry on bags their prices are closing in on the likes of Aer Lingus..

I'm heading off with Ryanair in the middle of next month to Stuttgart & returning by Bremen. Have all the fleet been kitted out with the new seats yet as I prefer them as they seem to have a little bit more legroom in them?

grimm2005 wrote: »

Nope, only a small percentage are new, I fly quite regularly with them on different routes but have only got a new plane about 4 times in total I'd say since they started introducing them.

I think the OP was asking if the older planes have received the new seats yet? A friend of mine was on an older one last week which did have them but I couldn't tell you if many others do.

grimm2005 wrote: »

Ah okay, I didn't know the older planes were getting retro-fitted. I haven't been on any older ones that have the new seats since they announced the new cabins a few years back and I fly fairly often so I would say the chances are slim.

Yeah, I should have been more clear on my question. Earlier This year I flew out to Germany on the old style seats EI-DPO but on the return trip they were new style but an older bird EI-DCR.

rivegauche wrote: »

http://www.eleconomista.es/empresas-finanzas/noticias/9411541/09/18/Ryanair-cancela-finalmente-150-vuelos-por-la-huelga-del-viernes-40-menos-de-los-anunciados.html

Number of cancelled flights reduced from 190 to 150.
That reduction seems to be attributable to these Spanish Strike Regulations.


The Squib gets damper by the day.


@IngazZagni; seat 16A is your problem with trying to make me look silly. Not only would he have been offered the seat if it were available, he, as an able-bodied man who was being displaced from another emergency exit seat would have been the first person the cabin crew would asked to go to 16A.
It was never available anyhow. Those overwing window seats are in demand and would have been sold for a premium weeks in advance of the flights.
The company response was technically plausible but not practically credible and was the response chosen so as not to disincentivise the reading public from purchasing ancillaries, i.e. premium seats for fear of not receiving the service they would pay for.

Goes to show your lack of knowledge on the airline again, the last remaining available seats on a Ryanair flight are generally the overwings 16 + 17 A and F, then generally around the row two area and anothet couple around the 29 - 30 area.

rivegauche wrote: »

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah. Even if not sold someone would have snook in to them by the time the doors are closing and the Cabin Crew would have been making sure at that stage that someone able-bodied was in them and agreeing to assist in case of emergency. The response as published was not credible.

Not true because when they’re assigned to revenue pax or revenue standby pax at the gate or jump seating crew the crew are informed by the dispatcher to go down and check to make sure nobody else has occupied them. The response published was totally credible as i’ve had the exact thing happen on a few of my flights over the last few weeks.

rivegauche wrote: »

I guess if cabin crew are informed of exactly where certain people are seated then they'd be informed that seat 16A is free and it should have been offered.
You are tying yourself up in knots trying to prove that the response as printed was credible. The passenger states categorically that 16A which is an equally acceptable seat with extended legroom was not offered to him.

But yet Ryanair says it was offered to him and regardless if he was offered 16A or not (which he was) he would not have been able to sit in 17F due to technical issues. It happens, not often but happens, same as a last minute INAD on the flight, they have to be seated in 32A regardless if someone has paid in advance for it or not, these are rules and regulations set forth by the IAA but you can continue on with your drivel.