Clerical Officer (Dublin) 2019

ciano316 wrote: »

Says starting pay is 469 a week before tax and a lad in last years thread said he started a couple weeks ago. Take home was around 400. Unemployed at the minute since returning from being in the US. Aim was to start saving for a house and that but on 400 a week take home. Don't see that happening. I heard work/life balance is great. What kind of progression is there?

As I say dunno how he's getting that. Certainly not the pay everyone is getting. There are internal competitions and interdepartmental - you're not excluded from the Open competitions either and if you've a bit of people management experience it's not that difficult to make the jump to EO. If you've got a good HEO or AP that believes in development it's even easier. That's not amazingly paid either though starting out.

ciano316 wrote: »

It's on the Forsa payscale for clerical officer. First pay on the scale is 469. What did you mean by skipping 4 and 8? I have previous work in operations in an office. Have covered maternity leave as ops manager as well. Have an honors degree in IT too. Just was always led to believe civil service was a solid job but never really looked into the pay involved. Very unsure as what to do

€469 (without checking it) is correct but its the Net figure I'm disputing. I've seen CO payslips (without deductions for unions dues etc.) at €365 per week rather than €400.

Personally I made the switch from private sector and recommend it. If you can stick CO for a while you'll easily progress IMHO albeit to 30,127 plus the pay rises due in Jan (0.5%) and September (2%).

I thought Dublin was crying out for IT people? Although at my age I'd take the job security over the higher salary (within reason).

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

€469 (without checking it) is correct but its the Net figure I'm disputing. I've seen CO payslips (without deductions for unions dues etc.) at €365 per week rather than €400.

Personally I made the switch from private sector and recommend it. If you can stick CO for a while you'll easily progress IMHO albeit to 30,127 plus the pay rises due in Jan (0.5%) and September (2%).

I thought Dublin was crying out for IT people? Although at my age I'd take the job security over the higher salary (within reason).

Haven't kept up with the IT industry like I should have over the years. Stayed in non IT jobs. How long are we talking to get to 30k?

Cheers for your advice

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Really depends when the competitions come up and until now I've assumed you were in Dublin. 2 - 3 years including the massive wait that is civil service recruitment is not beyond the beyonds.

I am in Dublin yes. I thought the wages went up in yearly increments like on the Forsa scale???

How would I get from 24k to 30k in 2 or 3 years?

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

€469 (without checking it) is correct but its the Net figure I'm disputing. I've seen CO payslips (without deductions for unions dues etc.) at €365 per week rather than €400.

Personally I made the switch from private sector and recommend it. If you can stick CO for a while you'll easily progress IMHO albeit to 30,127 plus the pay rises due in Jan (0.5%) and September (2%).

I thought Dublin was crying out for IT people? Although at my age I'd take the job security over the higher salary (within reason).

Hiya
The security of a well paid (and it does pay more than S/welfare), perm and pensionable job with benefits and opportunities is worth its weight in gold.
It doesn't matter where you are based but hopeful somewhere suitable to you. Sit out the first 12 months probation and then start moving up the ladder - it is all doable.
Note - if you have previous TCO or Public service experience which will bring it all up to 24 months, you can start applying for any EO or HEO competition.
Its tough at first but I think (I hope) worth it)
Tigs

Richiecor wrote: »

Hi ,
I was provisionally assigned for AGS in March , my reference was only contacted nearly 2 months ago and still not a jot on placement date and location. Realistically how long more should I be waiting? At this stage I am considering forgetting about it completely and seeking other employment in private sector. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

9 months is longer than most. Have you chased it with either PAS or Garda HR?

Richiecor wrote: »

Hi ,
I was provisionally assigned for AGS in March , my reference was only contacted nearly 2 months ago and still not a jot on placement date and location. Realistically how long more should I be waiting? At this stage I am considering forgetting about it completely and seeking other employment in private sector. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Hi there,

I am in a similar position. I was assigned back in may, finally cleared vetting in September and was given a start date for later in that month. There was an issue on their end and I didn’t start on the date I was supposed to and I was told I would be given a new start date but I am still waiting over 3 months later. I have contacted them plenty of times but have never had anyone contact me back, which appears to be a recurring theme reading through various posts on here.

The only reasons I haven’t kicked up more of a fuss are because I am also awaiting vetting/security clearance for another position with AGS (and it is going as well as this one) so I am hoping that will come up first. And someone in another topic said that most departments wind down at the end of the year and it takes a while before they get going again in the new year. I am going to give it until Friday week and then start making enquiries. If I don’t get any update I will ask public jobs if I can be reassigned.

Richiecor wrote: »

That's another thing I can't understand. Why have the people interviewed in May been placed ahead of the people assigned in March.? If it's based on the test results fair enough, but surely they could have explained this more clearly. The responses I'm getting back are ' this is a long process' etc, extremely vague. The whole thing is frustrating , especial when everyday in work for the last 3 or more months , I'm getting asked if I've got a start date ( from my employer and colleagues). I think now I'm just going to seek new employment in private sector and try get this position out of my head.

Don't give in without making the call - ring them and ask them straight out what the delay is.

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

I would highly recommend the civil service over private sector. As above don't give up without exploring all the options - maybe they can reassign you. One thing I will say about AGS though is the civilianisation is creating a lot of opportunities.

I agree with that

Any idea what score they are up to now? I scored fairly low, only 450 but i beat the qualifying mark of 428. However since it's Dublin only I expected to have been called by now

glenfieldman wrote: »

I got this reply

Your Score:
910

Qualifying Score:
865

I am pleased to inform you that you have been placed 850 on the order of merit for Co. Dublin.

so Im going to to waiting a long time for a job

Are you sure this is the same comp? The message i recieved a few months back said the max score is 800 and qualifying score is 428 and there was no OOM

applejunkie wrote: »

That's the TCO competition score , theres a separate thread for that .

any link please

applejunkie wrote: »

Did you get an expression of interest for bilingual vacancies ? My daughter scored around 480 and she got one last week. She is not fluent in Irish so she did not apply but I was wondering if that meant that they were near her number?

Yes I got the same mail too but I'm not fluent in Irish either. I didn't realise they were still working off the 2017 panel, that's a bummer

Plasandrunt wrote: »

Yes I got the same mail too but I'm not fluent in Irish either. I didn't realise they were still working off the 2017 panel, that's a bummer

Only in so much as people are still being placed due to the huge lag on vetting for AGS.