All ye oul wans and oul fellas out there! Wakey wakey, rise and shine!

looksee · 04-02-2019 8:40pm

To be honest JB I haven't really established whether I am wheat sensitive or gluten intolerant, I just avoid all the possibilities of ingesting it. There are so many options now for gluten free food that it really isn't an issue. Thirty years ago if you tried to avoid wheat while buying lunch in a cafe the option was chips!

Jellybaby1 · 04-02-2019 10:25pm

I don't usually get chips in restaurants unless they can guarantee they're gluten free. Some do, and some don't. I agree, thirty years ago things were bad for us, I had to buy my flour and bread in a chemist! Hard to believe that now! Anyhoo, I'm still alive after all this time, yuppee!

looksee · 04-02-2019 11:03pm

I think the whole business of flour on chips is a recent one, then they would have been just spuds. Increasingly though restaurants just say 'all our sauces are gluten free' and generally meat and veg are fine, most places have really caught on.

I wonder where all this allergy stuff has come from though. Coeliac is a disease, I can understand that, but just the sensitivity for so many seems to have come from nowhere - and in my family me, my son and his daughter are all affected - my granddaughter very much so for dairy and wheat - and even into stuff like gelatine from pork, I don't really understand how that happens, something to do with proteins I gather. The other granddaughter (sister) can eat all before her no problem.

New Home · 04-02-2019 11:15pm

I think it's something to do with how the wheat was cultivated and harvested. I remember watching a documentary a good few months ago about Canadian wheat: they said that to get the wheat to dry in time for harvest it would get sprayed with the likes of Roundup a few days before, so that the plant would be dead and would have had time to dry before adverse weather conditions would set it. If it's true, I don't think that'd do any good to anyone.

looksee · 04-02-2019 11:17pm

Yikes that's bad! I don't think we get that much Canadian wheat though do we? They do seem to treat food very badly over there.

New Home · 04-02-2019 11:19pm

Loads, actually! It's just that most products don't state the origin of the ingredients. I think the law in that regard is due to change this coming May, though. Not a day too soon, if you ask me.

Rubecula · 04-02-2019 11:20pm

some cereals have gluten some do not you have to find out for yourself which ones you can eat

Jellybaby1 · 05-02-2019 3:51pm

Looksee, it's not only if they used flour to coat the chips, its also if they have cooked the chips in the same oil as other foods they have breaded/battered. Some chippers do state the chips are GF as they don't cook everything in the same oil. Problem is, we have to accept whatever information the chef in restaurants sends out to us via the waiter. No opportunity to cross-question. I remember some years ago going to a lunch run by the Coeliac Association and we were all informed we would have a GF lunch. We got salad! And not a very good one, I had a much better selection of salad ingredients in my fridge at home that day. :eek: Anyway, as you say, things are much better now particularly in supermarkets.

Regarding the process of wheat production. I watched a programme last night I had recorded, I think called 'Farm of the Future'. It explained about the chemicals in modern fertilizers and the fact that most food production these days is linked to the production and use of oil. It looks like farming will have to go back to old fashioned type of methods. It was episode 13 I think of a series but I hadn't picked up on it before so missed the previous episodes. Must keep a look out for it in case its repeated again.

looksee · 05-02-2019 5:12pm

You are right of course about cross contamination of the oil - I would not be sensitive enough for that to be an issue, which is a great advantage. I suppose (after all this time!) it would be a good idea if I knew exactly what the problem was, but I seem to get away with a certain amount.

Jellybaby1 · 05-02-2019 5:40pm

I'd always recommend to friends who decide ad hoc to go gluten or wheat free to go to their GP. We never know if our problems are a result of some other condition until we have a test, i.e. gastroscopy or maybe blood test. No point in suffering with an undiagnosed condition.

looksee · 06-02-2019 11:50am

When I first went gluten/wheat free there were no reliable tests (apart from coeliac) and I could not get anyone to take me seriously. I don't think I have coeliac disease (pretty sure at this stage) but adult onset coeliac had not been recognised then and I am not prepared to go back to eating wheat for a month or more to enable the test. For the moment I am fine and it isn't causing me any issues.

One mildly interesting thing, I originally thought I was milk sensitive but when eventually I went off wheat, after a while I became less sensitive to milk and eventually was able to take milk no problem. Apparently there is some rational explanation for this relating to the effect of wheat on the gut.

New Home · 06-02-2019 11:59am

I think if may have something to do with how your body is overreacting to one thing that makes it overreact to others, too. I know someone, for instance, who is intolerant to latex but allergic to a specific antibiotic, to the point that she was hospitalised for over a week because of it - she got a horrific rash all over their body, including the eyelids, and she looked like she had been badly burnt. Normally, the intolerance to the latex only shows up if she's been in contact with latex for over an hour or thereabouts, so at first the nurses didn't believe her. However, while she was having the bad reaction to the antibiotic, the rash was immediately exacerbated in the places that had been in contact with the nurses' latex gloves, so they stopped questioning it and switched to the non-latex ones. Once she got better, the latex allergy went back to being a latex intolerance.

looksee · 03-04-2019 8:58pm

Made a very interesting discovery the other day - bananas sting! I picked up a banana and vaguely thought 'why does this banana feel prickly?' Arghhhh! I dropped the banana and a rather dozy wasp flew away. My thumb was sore for about 3 days.

We have had a 'one wasp at a time' infestation (can one be an infestation?) for the entire winter. You find one bumbling in the window and dispose of it and a couple of days later there is another one. Goodness knows where they are coming from, maybe there is a species of hardy solitary wasp? They do seem to be a bit bigger than usual.

New Home · 03-04-2019 9:01pm

Maybe it was the same one experiencing Groundhog Day.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 03-04-2019 9:07pm

looksee wrote: »

Made a very interesting discovery the other day - bananas sting! I picked up a banana and vaguely thought 'why does this banana feel prickly?' Arghhhh! I dropped the banana and a rather dozy wasp flew away. My thumb was sore for about 3 days.

We have had a 'one wasp at a time' infestation (can one be an infestation?) for the entire winter. You find one bumbling in the window and dispose of it and a couple of days later there is another one. Goodness knows where they are coming from, maybe there is a species of hardy solitary wasp? They do seem to be a bit bigger than usual.

Sounds like hibernating queens starting to stir.

looksee · 03-04-2019 9:12pm

Kaylee Nutty Fridge wrote: »

Sounds like hibernating queens starting to stir.

Really? There must have been 10 or 15 over the winter! That's on and off since the autumn. I suspect there must be a nest nearby.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 03-04-2019 9:16pm

looksee wrote: »

Really? There must have been 10 or 15 over the winter! That's on and off since the autumn. I suspect there must be a nest nearby.

In winter hives die off and groups of queens look for a dry sheltered place to hibernate. If that place is in a house, the heat can awaken some of them. Right now most will be emerging to go establish new hives.

looksee · 03-04-2019 11:14pm

Thanks, that's interesting. And they look just like ordinary wasps? (largish ordinary wasps).

OldGoat · 04-04-2019 9:03am

On the plus side, if it is a wasp nest then they'll only be there for a year, unlike bees that will use the same nest/hive forever.

Rubecula · 23-04-2019 5:05am

Just a quick mention that sometime this week I will be away from the puter for a while Sorry about that folks but I can not help it at all.

New Home · 23-04-2019 8:25am

Rubecula wrote: »

Just a quick mention that sometime this week I will be away from the puter for a while Sorry about that folks but I can not help it at all.

Young 'uns these days are all slackers. We just can't get the staff any more!

(Hope you're doing ok, Rube.

)

Rubecula · 23-04-2019 8:50am

New Home wrote: »

Young 'uns these days are all slackers. We just can't get the staff any more!

(Hope you're doing ok, Rube. )

please do not worry about ne it is something other than my health that is the problem just now

New Home · 23-04-2019 9:08am

Ah, slacking off altogether, then. It's well for some! :pac:

Jellybaby1 · 23-04-2019 8:14pm

We'll forgive you Rube. Let us know when you are back in the cockpit. I don't usually like flying without a pilot but I'll give it a go until your return, I'm sure the others won't mind! See you somewhere around the teapot!

looksee · 23-04-2019 9:01pm

I don't usually like flying without a pilot but I'll give it a go until your return,

Ahem!

Jellybaby1 · 24-04-2019 1:15am

Don'tcha trust me?

OldGoat · 24-04-2019 8:26am

Jellybaby1 wrote: »

Don'tcha trust me?

I don't even trust me.
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Jellybaby1 · 24-04-2019 9:42am

Sure don't computers fly planes these days?

Alice1 · 21-07-2019 10:32pm

Looking very quiet here these days. Are you all gone?

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 21-07-2019 10:38pm

Busy elsewhere mixing with the young'uns.

All ye oul wans and oul fellas out there! Wakey wakey, rise and shine!

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