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5000 applicants turn down social housing

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  • TheChizler wrote: »
    You could say that about anyone really, with varying amounts of work involved :D

    Just call it what it is: a subsidised house, which in her case is likely ultimately paid for by social welfare and other supports. Calling social housing "free houses" isn't accurate and doesn't help solve the clusterf**c of a situation, just riles up anger and resentment. It's very easy to argue against social housing when it's called "free houses", people have to put a little more thought into their arguments when you call it what it is.

    nah

    its subsidised for anybody who has earned their income

    for anyone who doesnt, its free


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    nah

    its subsidised for anybody who has earned their income

    for anyone who doesnt, its free
    So the thread title is likely inaccurate then.




  • TheChizler wrote: »
    So the thread title is likely inaccurate then.

    we can certainly agree that it might be phrased a little more constructively or originally alright


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,105 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Thread title has been changed. There is to be no more discussion of "free house", Margaret Cash or trying to pass off the supply issues on to immigrants


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Mod Note

    tretorn, do not post in this thread again.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,667 ✭✭✭Klonker


    Would there be any way of seeing how many of the 10,000 homeless are in full time employment? Or how many had their homes repossessed. If be interested to some some more stats on our homeless figures.


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    Klonker wrote: »
    Would there be any way of seeing how many of the 10,000 homeless are in full time employment? Or how many had their homes repossessed. If be interested to some some more stats on our homeless figures.

    It should be easy enough do. They already have a breakdown regarding gender, marital status, family make up etc.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 886 ✭✭✭NasserShammaz


    Klonker wrote: »
    Would there be any way of seeing how many of the 10,000 homeless are in full time employment? Or how many had their homes repossessed. If be interested to some some more stats on our homeless figures.

    I'd be more interest in how many have criminal records and/or have been evicted for non payment of rent anti social behaviour.

    Why should the be on the housing list and be rewarded for being poor citizens .so they get a free pass in the courts and a free pass into housing .

    iv lived in a place where the council placed a nightmare family who had no doubt been evicted from other areas and with in a week the whole athmosphere went from chilled pleasant and communal to angry and confrontational.


    1st on the list the working poor
    2nd those with real disabilities or those in education or with kids who are engaged and interested in school(not little grey tracksuit runts)
    3rd non working poor those who contribute little
    4th any who has been evicted or have criminal records for crimes involving voilence/drugs/ intimdation


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 127 ✭✭Maurice Yeltsin


    Complete nonsense , theres nothing sad/unfortunate/worse about a country upbringing, if anything its a safer , healthier environment for kids. Inner city dublin is the last place id ever want to raise a child. Especially in the cases where the liability of the kids falling in with a bad crowd the country is a lot better. Id much rather little billy is bored or has to walk 2km to the village than hanging around with young lads selling heroin.

    My cousin moved to a rural town maybe 8 miles from the main county town, in the 90's.

    His own village, of about 3000 in the town and surrounds, had, in terms of youth services, utterly fook all.

    There was a tennis court.
    There was at one stage a basic playground, it got vandalised and was never repaired in his time as a boy.
    There was a scout troop for a while but it disbanded due to lack of volunteers.
    The only sports club in the town was Gaelic football. For any other sport it was 8 miles away in the county town. This in an area with minimal public transport links.

    Even the county town didn't get such basic entertainment amenities as a cinema, a swimming pool or a bowling alley/ arcade until around the year 2000. One need only look at how few of our international footballers are from properly rural areas to reflect this.

    The waffle that some parts of Dublin are prone to crime because there's apparently nothing for the youth to do is absolutely baffling. There's no smaller or bigger recreational drug culture down the sticks than there is in Dublin- ironically younger people in the country are more likely to fall into heroin use as, unlike in Dublin, they haven't been surrounded by, and scared off by, older people in their community destroying themselves with it. While there is undoubtedly less crimes such as shootings or robbery from the person, a Saturday night out down there is a warzone, street brawls everywhere, you wouldn't find the like of it anywhere in Dublin.

    The country is certainly improved from 25 years ago in terms of things to do, but I'd still rather see my kids grow up in Dublin. More facilities, more peers to socialise with etc etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 570 ✭✭✭Jane98


    As a secondary school teacher, I have become more and more concerned in recent years with what seems to be an increase in the number of students I meet who aspire to a life on the dole and nothing more. Many of these students make the job of a teacher a difficult one as they have no interest in learning, turn up to class with no pens, copies etc and expect them to be given to them by the school for free because everything else they get is given to their families for free. It is truly worrying.

    It's time we modernised our social welfare system so that people have to give something back in return for benefits. There is a huge disincentive for many in our society to take responsibility for themselves and their families.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,623 ✭✭✭Fol20


    Jane98 wrote: »
    As a secondary school teacher, I have become more and more concerned in recent years with what seems to be an increase in the number of students I meet who aspire to a life on the dole and nothing more. Many of these students make the job of a teacher a difficult one as they have no interest in learning, turn up to class with no pens, copies etc and expect them to be given to them by the school for free because everything else they get is given to their families for free. It is truly worrying.

    It's time we modernised our social welfare system so that people have to give something back in return for benefits. There is a huge disincentive for many in our society to take responsibility for themselves and their families.

    I still never understood why you would have a manager in charge of people who are on social welfare where they need to do 20hours a week to give back to their local community, be it in clean ups etc


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    Fol20 wrote: »
    I still never understood why you would have a manager in charge of people who are on social welfare where they need to do 20hours a week to give back to their local community, be it in clean ups etc

    I assume that you mean CE and TUS scheme supervisors. The amount of paperwork they have to do is ridiculous. They also have to pay the participants wages, tax, PRSI etc. They have to do all jobs any manager had to do. Make sure that the workers are where they are supposed to be and that they understand and are able to do the work. Not as easy as one would think!!!


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