Irish Racing Coverage

marvin80 wrote: »

Even if online streaming is taking off having tv coverage is still very important.

Take for example casual viewers - if I'm going through the Sky Sports channels and see a La Liga match I'll probably watch it to see if it's any use.
It's online now and there's a very small chance I'll go looking for it.

Irish Racing coverage is being screwed and putting it online is only going to further damage it.

I'm labouring the point at this stage, but sky satellite subscriptions are hemorrhaging at the moment. The future of sport is people picking and choosing what they want to watch via online platforms ( two people in the last few posts have specifically referred to La Liga now only available online - so don't tell me it can't potentially be a positive ) - in any case no one channel surfs and stops to see who is winning the 2.15 in Ballinrobe unless they have a specific interest in the race. The argument to me isn't valid. I might not be right but that is just my opinion

Realalemadrid wrote: »

Fair point. St. Stephen's day has been used to further the crowded fixtures arguments in some other posts though in fact it is one of the first posts in the thread.

Ah ok, I hadn’t seen that. I know what you’re saying about the future, nothing stands still and sometimes we got to accept change however much it discommodes us. But Uefa is just one body concerned with falling viewership from games not being available on terrestrial tv. There could be some rowing back on that front, hard to be certain.

As regards Irish racing the future of broadcasting could change, but I think for the sake of a couple of million they made a poor decision to abandon atr at this time. For a sport that gets such a generous slice of the public purse, it strikes me as a decision that is not in the interest of the majority of that public. Could be wrong but have a feeling they will be regretting it within a year.

The number of racing fans will steadily decline unless new and younger adherents are continually attracted to the sport.
The American racetracks made the disastrous decision to discourage television coverage as they feared it would encourage illegal off-course betting. The results was that millions of potential racegoers who watched sport on television had no idea whatsoever of the spectacle and atmosphere of a racetrack. Other sports gained widespread media coverage and a national following. their stars becoming national figures whilst names like Shoemaker, Whittingham and Stephens were unknown except to convinced racing fans.

The Thoroughbred Business by Jocelyn De Moubray (1987)

STB. wrote: »

Unless RUK opened a section channel they were never going to show all Irish racing meetings. Its just impossible. They knew this. Now they have all the retail rights, they are doing what they want.

Stand in a bookies and look at the amount of split screens and second and third screens such is the overlaps between meetings.

Even better, point your satellite dish at 4.8E and you'll see the number of channels each bookie has (the encryption of which has been broken for the last 3 years but thats another story).

The bookies are running the show. They want punters in shops.

No they don't
They want them betting online. They can mine all data there and study behaviours and patterns.

Has anyone taken up the offer last week, there surely will be more between now and New Year’s Eve.

antietam wrote: »

Course managers I have spoken to have no Idea how the loss of ATR individual course funding is to be replaced as the HRI have not held any meetings to Inform course managers of the new deal with RUK. HRI have refused to answer questions on their outlook for Irish racing going forward over the next six years.

A few minutes ago I signed up for an evening course starting in February "Horses For Courses". I was on it about fifteen years ago.

One of the topics is "Role of Horse Racing Ireland".
This "keyboard warrior" might bring along a few questions.

Francie Barrett wrote: »

https://www.racingpost.com/news/racing-on-tv/racing-uk-to-become-racing-tv-with-gary-obrien-spearheading-new-irish-coverage/355904

At least Dundalk will stay free to air.

I never realised it was previously free to air ?

naughto wrote: »

Have many of ye taking out the sub or plan to?
I don’t no if it’s worth is with two young kids in the house i don’t get to see dam all as it is

Same as I’ll play a waiting game as to what will happen? Will more tracks come back to sky in 2020?
Couldn’t log in for Black Friday sale I’m sure more will be on.

chinguetti wrote: »

Is that the course they ran in UCD & UL? I did it in UL when doing my Masters. I'm assuming its in UCD again. Got a fine umbrella out of it which I sadly lost

It is in the Talbot Hotel, Stillorgan (on the Stillorgan Road / N11).
When I did it previously it was in UCD.

One of the highlights was when someone told the breeding speaker his numbers were wrong,
e.g. a comment like "350 stallions were mated with 8,000 mares last year."

They said the numbers should be equal.
I think they thought a stallion and mare got married, and went on honeymoon.
Apologies if it was you who "corrected" the speaker.

From reading press release sounds like Racing TV will be free in ireland for January with a month free to all potential subs at any point in January

So. ...free in January then take up free month from Jan 30th to take you up to Feb 28th. ...by then all decent horses be away till the festival.

Aintree will be on ITV punchestown will be on rte.....

After that I couldnt give a feck till galway. ....Which will be on rte lol

Good opinion piece about the tv deal:

https://www.racingpost.com/news/comment/netflix-analogy-misguided-as-racing-tv-launch-fails-to-assuage-coverage-fears/356347

marvin80 wrote: »

You were saying...............

http://www.laliganews.co.uk/23447/la-liga-broadcaster-eleven-sports-left-brink-uk-just-four-months-air/

That is interesting - but Eleven Sports have been poorly managed - they have not got themselves on all the platforms they need to be on : Amazon Prime etc. Racing TV need to get the platform out there - on Smart TV's, Fire-sticks - even a Sky app that you can access via the remote control. Any new technology's success is based on ease of access. I'm not sure of the relevance of Eleven Sports' failure to the discussion on Irish racing.

The big problem streaming sites have is piracy - that could certainly be the fly in the ointment.