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View Poll Results: would you choose solitary confinement or general population in prison if you could?
Solitary confinement 140 66.35%
General population (stay with other inmates) 71 33.65%
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09-02-2019, 21:13   #61
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You can get whatever you want once you have someone on the outside to pay the money to the criminal gangs. Basic Phones are about €500 - €1000
Smart phones are much more difficult to smuggle in.

Old story but you get the idea.
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This morning's reports say the budgie is believed to have been smuggled into the prison by a female visitor who concealed the bird internally in her body.

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Pulp - common people lyrics
(music starts) And still you'll never get it right
Cos when you're laying in your cell at night,
Watching roaches climb the wall,
If you called your brief he could stop it all yeah/
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09-02-2019, 21:20   #63
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Whitey was no saint as everybody knows but he didn't get a death sentence but somebody who is not a judge decided to give him the death penalty. That guy should be jailed for life. If something like that happened in this country a lot of jobs would be lost.

Inmates get stabbed on a weekly basis in Ireland. We also have had murders in prison and sadly suicide is common enough too
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09-02-2019, 21:20   #64
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Good luck with that, would need to rack up at least 150 charges before they will even let you into prison here
That & not paying the TV licence
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Inmates get stabbed on a weekly basis in Ireland. We also have had murders in prison and sadly suicide is common enough too
Yes but nobody has been purposely placed in harm's way to the best of my knowledge.
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09-02-2019, 21:47   #66
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I dont think I'm alone in saying I'd love a stint in prison. Pure curiosity, like. Are you locked up all day?
Nah. You're out more than you're in if you're on a normal regime i.e. not segregated.

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Is there a library, are there games, Is the soap thing true?
There is a library. There are games such as chess and poker. Some inmates have video games in their cells, nothing beyond a PS2 is allowed.

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Are phones and wifi allowed for prisoners?
Standard prisoners are allowed to use prison landlines for 6 minutes a day to declared and confirmed numbers. No wifi. There are contraband phones, most of which are capable of accessing the internet.

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I am guessing that staff can have phones but must use 3 or 4g at their own expense.
Staff aren't allowed their phones within the prison. Can potentially be done for it if found in their possession.

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That & not paying the TV licence
Ah the TV license one Reality is that you're jailed for non payment of the fine. Also, you just get turned around at the gate more or less to be honest, you wouldn't even see another prisoner.
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09-02-2019, 21:57   #67
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Ah the TV license one Reality is that you're jailed for non payment of the fine. Also, you just get turned around at the gate more or less to be honest, you wouldn't even see another prisoner.

A friend did the TV licence thing a few times. Collected by appointment by the Gardai and driven in to Mountjoy. Exactly as you described. He was there long enough for dinner once but didn't eat the food. Sent home after a few hours

Have they stopped sending them for TV licence now? They were talking about stopping this practice around two years ago if memory serves.
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09-02-2019, 22:00   #68
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A friend did the TV licence thing a few times. Collected by appointment by the Gardai and driven in to Mountjoy. Exactly as you described. He was there long enough for dinner once but didn't eat the food. Sent home after a few hours
That sounds like standard practice for not paying any court fine, many people do it even if they can afford the fine.
You can get a bus ticket on the way out which is handy!
Is it true that if you are unlucky enough to go in on a Friday there is a chance they will keep you in for the weekend?
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this says that in 5 years (2012-17) there were 9 suicides, 4 drug deaths and 2 murders, with an average of 800 prisoners there at any one time. That seems fairly low, lower than I would have thought anyway

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09-02-2019, 23:17   #70
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Apart from a few head cases I'd say most people just want to do their time and get it over with.
People here voting have never read up on the mental health consequences of solitary confinement.
It's probably best to keep yourself as busy as possible, socialise by playing card games and board games.
Stay away from drugs as I'd say most violence is over drug debts. You might even end up getting on well with the other inmates, you'd be surprised.
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this says that in 5 years (2012-17) there were 9 suicides, 4 drug deaths and 2 murders, with an average of 800 prisoners there at any one time. That seems fairly low, lower than I would have thought anyway

I'm not sure those figures are correct tbh. There's been two drug deaths this week alone in, I think, the Midlands. I think two murders is shocking considering prisoners are locked in a cell for 18 or 19 hours a day & they are supervised 24/7. I'd love to see figures for stabbings and attacks. These happen weekly and never seem to be reported in the papers. I'd be surprised if an ambulance wasn't needed at least once a week.
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09-02-2019, 23:29   #72
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A guy I know who’d have been no stranger to Irish prison got locked up in Australia shortly after arriving for dealing.
He’d have no shame in admitting he cried like a baby. He said you couldn’t even imagine how awful it was. Wasn’t long about putting a bit of manners on him all the same
If Aussie prisons are anything like in this then I can't blame him.


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Apart from a few head cases I'd say most people just want to do their time and get it over with.
People here voting have never read up on the mental health consequences of solitary confinement.
It's probably best to keep yourself as busy as possible, socialise by playing card games and board games.
Stay away from drugs as I'd say most violence is over drug debts. You might even end up getting on well with the other inmates, you'd be surprised.
What about Keith hall, the guy who had boiling sugar water poured down his throat? Sound brutal to be fair
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Nah. You're out more than you're in if you're on a normal regime i.e. not segregated.



There is a library. There are games such as chess and poker. Some inmates have video games in their cells, nothing beyond a PS2 is allowed.



Standard prisoners are allowed to use prison landlines for 6 minutes a day to declared and confirmed numbers. No wifi. There are contraband phones, most of which are capable of accessing the internet.



Staff aren't allowed their phones within the prison. Can potentially be done for it if found in their possession.



Ah the TV license one Reality is that you're jailed for non payment of the fine. Also, you just get turned around at the gate more or less to be honest, you wouldn't even see another prisoner.
You sound like you know what you're talking about.

Is there alcohol? Are there really drugs? And what kind of money do prisoners get? Is it like pocket money, where you get to spend a limited amount of money in a sort of tuck shop?

Also, how many people are there to a cell? And could you be locked inside with just about anyone?

Sorry, just morbidly curious.
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What about Keith hall, the guy who had boiling sugar water poured down his throat? Sound brutal to be fair
If I was in for murdering a young traveller woman I'd be worried however he didn't have it poured down his throat but poured on top of him.
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