Discovery 3x12 - 'There Is A Tide...' ~~ { Spoilers Within }

liamtech · 06-01-2021 4:50pm

I know other people have done this comparison, but hell, im gonna do it full on here

COMPARISON: Last weeks Discovery V This Weeks expanse (Spoiler Free just discussion of the optics and general watch-ability of the episodes in question)

The Expanse S5E6

Episode six so mid way through the season, ground work is still being laid, but story is compelling
Dense Episode, for anyone that hasnt seen it - a lot happens - probably not the strongest episode but again, so much going on - one could not say this was filler
First watch: OMG i want to get to the end here, this is nerve wracking
Multiple plot lines all starting to converge
Second watch - internally comparing plot elements to previous episodes - paying special attention to dialogue and Nuance of the story
Third watch - later tonight i plan on rewatching - had i not already rewatched Season 4 that would be a must at this stage - but may definitely watch the last 3 episodes of the Expanse S5 tonight
Multiple theories in mind for what is happening - i am up to book 4, prefer to watch then read - may end up skipping that rule and diving straight into book 5 soon, and then onward

Discovery: S3 E12

Penultimate Episode - Cliffhanger Element - All ground work laid. I should be excited - im not - the season thus far has been ludicrous
Several different plot lines currently taking place - only one of any interest was Orion offer of Alliance with the Federation - poorly executed, unbelievable plot twist with the Admirals suggestion Orion Leader be put on trial - farce
Micharl Burnham/John McClane running around the ship trying to take it back - barely watched it, i was cleaning in the background - Utterly fed up with Burnham at this stage
Dialogue utterly devoid of meaning
Totally unnecessary to Re-Watch the season - nothing happened of any consequence to this episode - have not rewatched the episode and do not see any point in doing so
PROBABLY a strong discovery outing for this season - not a high enough fence to jump -
No re-watch necessary - the Contrived 'Sphere Data' is gonna help michael save the day - The other guys stranded on Dilitium Rich Planet will be fine -
Barely acknowledge that tomorrow is the season finale

This show is terrible - comparing it to something reasonable highlights, in a very real way, just how terrible it is. And yes i know there are books on which the expanse is based - That doesnt mean anything, star trek used to be so good, that novelizations would be a given for certain episodes - The writing is utterly abysmal this season of discovery

The overall plot is contrived
The background information, what background we have been given is ludicrous
There are no actual compelling characters, except perhaps Saru, who is secondary to the writers prime choice in Burnham
standalone material has been horrendously poor

biko · 06-01-2021 5:47pm

Acosta wrote: »

Decent episode with good pacing. But as always it's let down by terrible writing and the worst lead actor in the history of Star Trek

She is always teary-eyed looking up at someone, or whispering comforting words.

All characters are pretty crap but she is by far my biggest pet peeve.

De Bhál · 07-01-2021 12:24am

Absolute dogs dinner of a show, but the bizarre thing is you enter Discovery into twitter and it seems to get mostly positive reviews.
I was wondering was there a different show called Discovery that I didn't know about.
People going on about great plotting, acting etc.. I don't know.

I concluded it appeals to the twitter crowd as that place is crazy to begin with, so, no surprise really.

GreeBo · 07-01-2021 12:34am

De Bhál wrote: »

Absolute dogs dinner of a show, but the bizarre thing is you enter Discovery into twitter and it seems to get mostly positive reviews.
I was wondering was there a different show called Discovery that I didn't know about.
People going on about great plotting, acting etc.. I don't know.

I concluded it appeals to the twitter crowd as that place is crazy to begin with, so, no surprise really.

It's Twilight in space, of course some idiots love it.

You have to give it to the writers though, they nailed writing about space, it's certainly the most vacuous show I've ever watched.

Smacruairi · 07-01-2021 1:23am

I remember Red Letter Media exposing the use of bots on twitter to hype star trek online, all using the exact same script.

Banana Republic 1 · 07-01-2021 8:44am

De Bhál wrote: »

Absolute dogs dinner of a show, but the bizarre thing is you enter Discovery into twitter and it seems to get mostly positive reviews.
I was wondering was there a different show called Discovery that I didn't know about.
People going on about great plotting, acting etc.. I don't know.

I concluded it appeals to the twitter crowd as that place is crazy to begin with, so, no surprise really.

I believe There’s a sky show called discovery of witches.

coffee_cake · 09-01-2021 1:45am

Banana Republic 1 wrote: »

I believe There’s a sky show called discovery of witches.

It's great I am happily watching it

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